Quoting: sensibleguy
Every one knows how good Marchand has been, no denying that, and he has high trade value. Marchand would bring a lot in a return if the Sens flipped him, but that’s a jerk move. You don’t trade for a guy, and flip him for more, unless you’re a jerk, like Doug Wilson. That flip is probably why Wilson paid through the nose for Karlsson. Yes it wasn’t thought to be a great return at the time, but Stuetzle aside, it really was, immediately. It’s also probably why there were so many conditions on the picks, and even a condition on a condition. I remember a quote after the trade, Ottawa picked all the right guys for that return.
So my point has been, Marchand doesn’t fit in Ottawa, and it’s a jerk move to trade and flip for more immediately. I may have worded it differently, but that’s the jist. Batherson is the guy Ottawa needs now, and in 3 years when they’re competitive, and long after Marchand retires. Batherson is a 4th round steal, and Ottawa got lucky.
Trade Marchand to a team that’s competing now, and if the OP was just trolling, that’s fine, but some trades get refused by both sides.
Lol you clearly have taken what I said as a issue because Doug Wilson isn’t a “jerk” and the Hoffman move was to help Ottawa move him - they didn’t take Florida’s offer so the sharks clearly took Hoffman and said they’d move Hoffman for them. Hoffman 100% guaranteed wasn’t told he’d become a shark, he knew it was a sharks keeping move as the media literally found out as the trade happened that the sharks weren’t actually keeping him. The sharks have been to known to be a classy organization internally so I don’t see why there’s a reason to try and trash the sharks.
The point of my comment literally stated : whether you would do it or not Marchand would fetch more then batherson. It doesn’t matter what the situation is my point was that if you acquired Marchand for this price you could easily get a much better asset return (whether you chose to or not is irrelevant). It’s the same thing as a 3 way trade, you’d be able to move Marchand for a large return. As I said Ottawa could reject this to they have every right to, but if Boston went to Ottawa and offered them this trade, Ottawa would be put into a BETTER situation by taking this trade, and the bruins would be in a worse situation as
@Bcarlo25 said. Ottawa would either A: easily be able to make waves in their division and likely be a team who could make the playoffs solely off a top 6 of tkachuk, white, Stutzle, Marchand, norris, dadonov, plus a top 9 of Tierney and brown plus Logan brown or a different name. That would be a very strong forward core with Ottawa who’s literally transitioning into a wild card contender currently (you can’t tell me the moves Ottawa made this offseason are rebuilding moves cause they literally aren’t, this team is beginning a transition period).
Or B:
Ottawa could trade Marchand to a team like, San Jose for example, and if San Jose felt like it they would have to offer:
Merkley
2021 or 2022 first
Likely Labanc or Simek/ Ferraro (he has more value than the other two tho)
And then maybe Sasha chmelevski or ozzy wiesblatt/ Bordeleau (or maybe 2 of the three).
Regardless of whether that offer entices you as a fan of any team or player:
Merkley is close to batherson quality (I’d call batherson a blue chip and Merkley a near blue chip as talent wise Merkley was literally said to have the ability to be better than Dahlin their draft year but Merkley has more issues; which have since been resolved).
Sasha Chmel is a high tier prospect but not near the other two, and than you could choose wiesblatt who’s a great spec and Bordeleau who’s continuing to show as a huge value pick even this early in his career (obviously it’s early). Plus a first in 2021 or 2022 which both are great years from the sharks who could easily be bad. And than add on a roster player like Ferraro who’s the most valuable of the three, Simek who’s a good bottom 4 pair guy, or Labanc who’s a high risk high reward player who could put up either 40 or put up 70 (he’s a gamble being so offensively focused).
Point being: Marchand has already established his value and whether a flip is something you’d want to do, it’s something you could do and you’d be fetching batherson plus many more quality assets, whereas no team would trade a first plus 3 players for batherson as it’s just not a risk worth taking.
I am fan of Ottawa, and they’d be in a better situation by accepting this trade regardless of bias.