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Cup Contender

Created by: TheAlien
Team: 2021-22 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 29, 2020
Published: Dec. 1, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Assume Reinhart demands a trade or Adams decides to tear everything down and start from scratch
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$10,000,000
3$7,000,000
5$4,000,000
3$2,000,000
2$1,000,000
2$1,000,000
2$800,000
6$6,000,000
2$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$7,000,000
4$3,000,000
Trades
1.
VAN
    Seattle
    2.
    VAN
    1. 2023 7th round pick (WSH)
    WSH
    1. Beagle, Jay ($1,500,000 retained)
    3.
    VAN
    1. 2022 7th round pick (TOR)
    Additional Details:
    Anywhere
    TOR
    1. Roussel, Antoine
    2. 2022 4th round pick (VAN)
    4.
    VAN
    1. Reinhart, Sam [RFA Rights]
    BUF
    1. Eriksson, Loui
    2. Lind, Kole [RFA Rights]
    3. Virtanen, Jake
    4. Woo, Jett
    5. 2021 1st round pick (VAN)
    Retained Salary Transactions
    Recapture Fees
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2021
    Logo of the VAN
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    Logo of the VAN
    Logo of the VAN
    2022
    Logo of the VAN
    Logo of the VAN
    Logo of the VAN
    Logo of the VAN
    Logo of the VAN
    Logo of the TOR
    2023
    Logo of the VAN
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    Logo of the VAN
    Logo of the VAN
    Logo of the VAN
    Logo of the VAN
    Logo of the VAN
    Logo of the WSH
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$80,587,326$648,780$1,082,500$912,674
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $5,250,000$5,250,000
    C, LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $10,000,000$10,000,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $5,875,000$5,875,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    $7,000,000$7,000,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $4,125,000$4,125,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    RW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $891,667$891,667 (Performance Bonus$200,000$200K)
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $925,000$925,000
    RW, LW
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $1,225,000$1,225,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $825,000$825,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $800,000$800,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $7,000,000$7,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 6
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    G
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $5,950,000$5,950,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $811,667$811,667 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
    G
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $800,000$800,000
    RW, LW
    UFA
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    LD
    RFA - 1

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    Dec. 1, 2020 at 10:31 p.m.
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    The Sabres will only trade Reinhart to keep Hall. So they would decline due to the Eriksson contract.
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    Dec. 1, 2020 at 10:32 p.m.
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    Quoting: Sabreshockey53
    The Sabres will only trade Reinhart to keep Hall. So they would decline due to the Eriksson contract.


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    Dec. 1, 2020 at 10:50 p.m.
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    There’s still no way they take a bad contract in return. They already have $11M tied up between Okposo and Ristolainen.
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    Dec. 1, 2020 at 10:57 p.m.
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    Quoting: MJCrv
    There’s still no way they take a bad contract in return. They already have $11M tied up between Okposo and Ristolainen.


    Okay, what if I take out Eriksson and the 1st and replace it with Roussel and a 3rd instead?
    Dec. 1, 2020 at 11:13 p.m.
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    Okay, what if I take out Eriksson and the 1st and replace it with Roussel and a 3rd instead?

    They have no use for any of those players. I would rather take an Reinhart offersheet.
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    Dec. 1, 2020 at 11:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: Sabreshockey53
    The Sabres will only trade Reinhart to keep Hall. So they would decline due to the Eriksson contract.


    Only 1 year of Loui though
    I could see us doing this possibly
    Especially if Virtanen has a good season
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    Dec. 1, 2020 at 11:18 p.m.
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    Quoting: TheAlien
    Okay, what if I take out Eriksson and the 1st and replace it with Roussel and a 3rd instead?


    That’s MUCH worse
    The 1st is the only reason we’d even consider it
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    Dec. 1, 2020 at 11:18 p.m.
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    They have no use for any of those players. I would rather take an Reinhart offersheet.


    So if I were to OS Reinhart at 6x6 would you let him walk?
    Dec. 1, 2020 at 11:19 p.m.
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    Quoting: Jdfitz77
    That’s MUCH worse
    The 1st is the only reason we’d even consider it


    I realize that but if I'm taking out Eriksson there's no way I can offer the same trade
    Dec. 1, 2020 at 11:25 p.m.
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    I realize that but if I'm taking out Eriksson there's no way I can offer the same trade


    It’s an EASY “no” without the 1st
    And it’s borderline with it
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    Dec. 1, 2020 at 11:28 p.m.
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    So if I were to OS Reinhart at 6x6 would you let him walk?


    He probably wouldn’t accept a 6 million dollar contract. He’s probably would want 7 plus after the season he will probably have.
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    Dec. 1, 2020 at 11:29 p.m.
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    Wicked team. Defintely Semi-finals at least. The top six is elite and some Vancouver boys coming home, cool. 3rd line could be and would be amazing. I would even say Lind shares time with Justin Bailey or takes his spot. Or Hawryluk could play centre on the 4th....ooohhh. Or maybe even Michaelis on 4th line Centre spot.

    Defense though...Schmidt plays RD. The Canucks have a strong prospect pool on the LD. Save your money on Larsson and resign Edler for the same or less. Then give Rathbone and Joulevi a strong chance at second LD with Brisebois in the mix. If anyone on the RD gets injured then Chatfield gets called up. .....Another other option is Bring in Tryamkin instead of Edler an save a 1mill.

    If Holtby goes then you will need a grizzled Vet. for cheap that can share duties...like...Bernier, Dubnyk, Rinne or even Hutton.
    Dec. 1, 2020 at 11:30 p.m.
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    Quoting: Sabres923
    He probably wouldn’t accept a 6 million dollar contract. He’s probably would want 7 plus after the season he will probably have.


    If he puts up 80+ points I'll give him 7 but right now 6 is more than fair in my eyes
    Dec. 1, 2020 at 11:42 p.m.
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    Quoting: TheAlien
    Okay, what if I take out Eriksson and the 1st and replace it with Roussel and a 3rd instead?

    I don’t know. I don’t think so. I like Virtanen, but I don’t think they’d want him as a replacement for Reinhart.
    Dec. 1, 2020 at 11:42 p.m.
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    Quoting: Canuckel_head
    Wicked team. Defintely Semi-finals at least. The top six is elite and some Vancouver boys coming home, cool. 3rd line could be and would be amazing. I would even say Lind shares time with Justin Bailey or takes his spot. Or Hawryluk could play centre on the 4th....ooohhh. Or maybe even Michaelis on 4th line Centre spot.

    Defense though...Schmidt plays RD. The Canucks have a strong prospect pool on the LD. Save your money on Larsson and resign Edler for the same or less. Then give Rathbone and Joulevi a strong chance at second LD with Brisebois in the mix. If anyone on the RD gets injured then Chatfield gets called up. .....Another other option is Bring in Tryamkin instead of Edler an save a 1mill.

    If Holtby goes then you will need a grizzled Vet. for cheap that can share duties...like...Bernier, Dubnyk, Rinne or even Hutton.


    You can replace Dipietro with who ever you want doesn't matter to me but when it comes to Larsson I just think he's kinda underrated because of the Hall trade and his advanced stats are actually similar to Tanev so I think him playing with a better, more possession-based partner could be huge for him. I also prefer if the RD are actually right-handed which is why I have Schmidt on his natural side
    Dec. 1, 2020 at 11:55 p.m.
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    Quoting: Jdfitz77
    It’s an EASY “no” without the 1st
    And it’s borderline with it


    I have no problem keeping the 1st in, it was the other guy complaining lol
    Dec. 2, 2020 at 12:22 a.m.
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    I have no problem keeping the 1st in, it was the other guy complaining lol


    Your initial proposal is still iffy

    Reinhart is an underrated player imo...
    I could just be a “homer” though with that
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    Dec. 2, 2020 at 8:38 a.m.
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    Yeah that garbage doesn't get you Sam Reinhart, And Vancouver is still a long ways away from being a serious cup contender.
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    Dec. 2, 2020 at 9:19 a.m.
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    Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
    Yeah that garbage doesn't get you Sam Reinhart, And Vancouver is still a long ways away from being a serious cup contender.


    Ill try to be objective here and say- sabres fans have been told by numerous neutral parties, that okposo would take a first with something else very nice attached to move. Eriksson and okposo are roughly the same value. I dont love reinhart as a player, but the numbers just dont lie, he consistently puts up goals and points. So either this offer is way underestimating what it would cost to move eriksson, or it is way underestimating what it would cost to acquire reinhart. Plus, the only way i see reinhart being moved is if hall is just dynamite with eichel and reinhart gets moved for futures, simply to free up salary.
    Dec. 2, 2020 at 2:35 p.m.
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    Quoting: Sabreshockey53
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    Reinhart, Sam > Virtanen, Jake + Woo, Jett + Lind, Kole [RFA Rights]
    Lind is a decent prospect.
    Maybe a pick or an upgrade over Woo might move the needle.
    nothing > Eriksson, Loui + 2021 1st round pick (VAN)
    The year Marleau was traded with a first he had 16 goals and 21 assists in 82 games.
    This past year Eriksson had 6 goals and 7 assists in 49 games.
    Less than half the production.
    I do not envision Loui being any better this coming year.
    A first is the minimum add on to take Loui.

    I welcome feedback.
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    Dec. 2, 2020 at 9:52 p.m.
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    Quoting: gretzkyghosts
    Reinhart, Sam > Virtanen, Jake + Woo, Jett + Lind, Kole [RFA Rights]
    Lind is a decent prospect.
    Maybe a pick or an upgrade over Woo might move the needle.
    nothing > Eriksson, Loui + 2021 1st round pick (VAN)
    The year Marleau was traded with a first he had 16 goals and 21 assists in 82 games.
    This past year Eriksson had 6 goals and 7 assists in 49 games.
    Less than half the production.
    I do not envision Loui being any better this coming year.
    A first is the minimum add on to take Loui.

    I welcome feedback.


    The reason to trade Sam is to open up some Cap space for Hall moving forward
    I haven’t looked at the numbers to see if we could take Loui for a year or not
    But it’s tough to say what fair value is gonna be after this season
    Any of the players involved could have their value rise or drop
    But I’d say his proposal is at least “in the ballpark”
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