If the Pens would have taken McCabe last year instead of Sheary and Rodrigues

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Created by: PGHBOB69

Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: Nov. 23, 2020

Published: Dec. 2, 2020

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If the Pens would have done the “rumored” Jake McCabe trade, last year at the trade deadline, for D.Kahun; Instead of getting Sheary and Rodrigues.

But I guess the Pens wanted the forwards. JJ and Shultz fuc*ked the team up, coming and going!!

And then the Pens could have traded the Florida Panthers for someone like A.Wennberg and C.Sceviour for P.Hornqvist and I added a 3rd round pick.

Or trade Hornqvist to another team(a contender) for an upgrade at the 3C. Someone like Calgary and Sam Bennet for Hornqvist. Or Vegas and C.Stephenson. We wouldn’t have need Mathewson though, another LHD.

Use the cap space to sign Rodrigues if we wanted him on our 3rd line RW. Or sign someone like A. Duclair for the 3rd line RW.

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Matheson, Michael
2022 3rd round pick (PIT)

Buyouts

Jack Johnson: $1,166,667

Retained Salary Transactions

Nick Bjugstad: $2,050,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$77,206,842	$0	$850,000	$4,293,158

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Guentzel, Jake $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 5	Kapanen, Kasperi $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW UFA - 2
Zucker, Jason $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 3	Malkin, Evgeni $9,500,000$9,500,000 C NMC UFA - 2	Rust, Bryan $3,500,000$3,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
McCann, Jared $2,940,000$2,940,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Wennberg, Alexander $2,250,000$2,250,000 C UFA - 1	Sceviour, Colton $1,200,000$1,200,000 RW, C UFA - 1
	Blueger, Teddy $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Tanev, Brandon $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 5
Jankowski, Mark $700,000$700,000 C, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Dumoulin, Brian $4,100,000$4,100,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Letang, Kris $7,250,000$7,250,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2	Jarry, Tristan $3,500,000$3,500,000 G UFA - 3
Pettersson, Marcus $4,025,175$4,025,175 LD UFA - 5	Marino, John $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RD UFA - 1	DeSmith, Casey $1,250,000$1,250,000 G UFA - 2
McCabe, Jake $2,850,000$2,850,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Ruhwedel, Chad $700,000$700,000 RD UFA - 1
	Ceci, Cody $1,250,000$1,250,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Lafferty, Sam $750,000$750,000 RW, C, LW UFA - 2		Aston-Reese, Zach $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Riikola, Juuso $1,150,000$1,150,000 LD UFA - 2

Dec. 2, 2020 at 1:00 a.m.

Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan

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Sabres wouldn't have agreed

Dec. 2, 2020 at 1:01 a.m.

PGHBOB69

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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan

Sabres wouldn't have agreed

Thats what the couple articles I read said Bud. I just didn’t pull it out of no where. It was D.Kuhn for McCabe. Or D.Kahun for Rodrigues and Sheary. And the Pens had JJ and Shultz at that time. So they took the forwards.

Dec. 2, 2020 at 1:07 a.m.

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Debate the trade all you want, I don't get how Wennberg makes this team better.

Dec. 2, 2020 at 1:11 a.m.

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Quoting: PGHBOB69

Ok just saying its a moot point because that wasn't realistically on the table.

Dec. 2, 2020 at 1:12 a.m.

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Debate the trade all you want, I don't get how Wennberg makes this team better.

Just saying. The pens wouldn’t have traded Horngvist for Matheson if they took McCabe last year, instead of Sheary and Rodrigues; which both were rumored to be offered. It’s explained more in the description.

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Dec. 2, 2020 at 1:12 a.m.

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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan

Ok just saying its a moot point because that wasn't realistically on the table.

Ok, it’s not what I read. I’ll find the articles and link them.

Dec. 2, 2020 at 1:19 a.m.

Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan

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Quoting: PGHBOB69

Ok, it’s not what I read. I’ll find the articles and link them.

Jason Botterill is actually pretty unpredictable so maybe it was.

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Dec. 2, 2020 at 1:21 a.m.

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I think Matheson will look better after Reirden gets a hold of him.

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Dec. 2, 2020 at 1:27 a.m.

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Edited Dec. 2, 2020 at 1:32 a.m.

Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan

Jason Botterill is actually pretty unpredictable so maybe it was.

Ya, I’ll google it. It was a Penguins beat writers article though. So take from that what u will. I’m sure they are alittle bias. Probably more than alittle..lol. It is mooted though cause it never happened. But I read articles after that trade saying that Kahun was The Sabers answers to their top 6 wing too. If that’s what they thought, then I could imagine. And the Pens had no need for McCabe at the TD last year. Now it looks really bad though. That were were able to get rid of jack Johnson and didn’t re-sign J.Shultz.

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Dec. 2, 2020 at 1:29 a.m.

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Quoting: PGHBOB69

Ya, I’ll google it. It was a Penguins beat writers article though. So take from that what u will. I’m sure they are alittle bias. Probably more than alittle..lol. It is mooted though cause it never happened. But I read articles after thatvtrade saying that Kahun was The Sabers answers to their top 6 wing too. If that’s what they thought, then I could imagine. And the Pens has no need for McCabe at the TD last year. Now it looks really bad though. That were were able to get rid of jack Johnson and didn’t re-sign J.Shultz.

Still so disappointed how they let him walk. Such a convoluted org sometimes.

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Dec. 2, 2020 at 1:31 a.m.

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Edited Dec. 2, 2020 at 1:37 a.m.

Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan

Still so disappointed how they let him walk. Such a convoluted org sometimes.

Ya, he’s young too. I think still like 25. And I think McCabe was getting benched or scratched from
Games last year from what I remember. Was that true?or I could be remembering it wrong too..lol.

Dec. 2, 2020 at 1:34 a.m.

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Ya, he’s young too. I think still like 25. And I think McCabe was getting benched or scratched from
Games last year from what I remember. Was that true?or I could be remembering it wrong too..lol.

he sucks but is still the best defensive dman on the team

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Dec. 2, 2020 at 1:37 a.m.

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he sucks but is still the best defensive dman on the team

Ya, Kahun is only 25 and played 2 decent seasons so far. 37 points 1st year and 31 points last year. I don’t know why the Pens got rid of him either.

Dahlin?? Mountour?? Ristolainen??

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Dec. 2, 2020 at 1:41 a.m.

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Quoting: PGHBOB69

Ya, Kahun is only 25 and played 2 decent seasons so far. 37 points 1st year and 31 points last year. I don’t know why the Pens got rid of him either.

Dahlin?? Mountour?? Ristalainen??

Statistics give him the cake

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Dec. 2, 2020 at 1:43 a.m.

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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan

Statistics give him the cake

Those 4 together and Jokijarju is solid D.

Dec. 2, 2020 at 1:44 a.m.

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Quoting: PGHBOB69

Those 4 together and Jokijarju is solid D.

yep

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