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Think you’re gonna deal with the same thing with palmieri.

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Dec. 2, 2020 at 3:48 p.m.

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Devils decline, they need Palmieri more than Pettersson

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Quoting: Bcarlo25

Think you’re gonna deal with the same thing with palmieri.

Lol, he has an expiring contract and they have 2 LHD that on expiring contracts this year too. And they will have Butcher(if they re-sign him), Pettersson and Ty Smith as their LHD for the next 4-5 years.

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Dec. 2, 2020 at 3:51 p.m.

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Devils decline, they need Palmieri more than Pettersson

I doubt it. A proven top 4 LHD on a play-off team. Still only 24 years old, and signed long-term to a reasonable deal. A.Johnsson brought back J.Anderson. I don’t see Palmieri value being much higher. Or higher at all. Especially if he’s trades at the TD.

I can see him bringing back futures at the TD. Like a “B”, “B+” prospect and a draft pick. But Petterson is more valueable than that. He’s a proven top 4 D. And like i said, still just 24. And has 2 years NHL experience already. And play-off experience.

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Dec. 2, 2020 at 3:56 p.m.

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Lol, he has an expiring contract and they have 2 LHD that on expiring contracts this year too. And they will have Butcher(if they re-sign him), Pettersson and Ty Smith as their LHD for the next 4-5 years.

Do you think that highly of Pettersson? Maybe i need to watch him play more. If you think he’s a legit top four d man this an abysmal trade for Pittsburgh.

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I doubt it. A proven top 4 LHD on a play-off team. Still only 24 years old, and signed long-term to a reasonable deal. A.Johnsson brought back J.Anderson. I don’t see Palmieri value being much higher. Or higher at all. Especially if he’s trades at the TD.

I can see him bringing back futures at the TD. Like a “B”, “B+” prospect and a draft pick. But Petterson is more valueable than that. He’s a proven top 4 D. And like i said, still just 24. And has 2 years NHL experience already. And play-off experience.

Were the penguins a playoff team last year?

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Dec. 2, 2020 at 3:58 p.m.

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I doubt it. A proven top 4 LHD on a play-off team. Still only 24 years old, and signed long-term to a reasonable deal. A.Johnsson brought back J.Anderson. I don’t see Palmieri value being much higher. Or higher at all. Especially if he’s trades at the TD.

I can see him bringing back futures at the TD. Like a “B”, “B+” prospect and a draft pick. But Petterson is more valueable than that. He’s a proven top 4 D. And like i said, still just 24. And has 2 years NHL experience already. And play-off experience.

Devils arent in cap jail like toronto was... palmieri has a decent contract that can easily be retained on to drive value up, not to mention 5 straight years of 20 plus goal scoring, smart player. No petterson is not even close to palmieri in terms of value, while we are talking about value... zboril is likely making the roster this year whether its vaak/zboril or zboril/vaak the bruins arent trading him for a 4th liner.

Dec. 2, 2020 at 4:01 p.m.

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Were the penguins a playoff team last year?

No, we lost in the “play-in” round. But the year prior we were; 2018-19.

Ya, for sure he is. He’s really good. Him and Marino are gonna be even better this year. Yes, he’s been the LHD on the Pens second pairing the last 2 years. Played 19.30, so 19 and a half minutes game last year. And 17 in 2018-19 when he was just 22 years old. He’ll play 20 plus this year.

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Dec. 2, 2020 at 4:01 p.m.

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Do you think that highly of Pettersson? Maybe i need to watch him play more. If you think he’s a legit top four d man this an abysmal trade for Pittsburgh.

petterson is not that good. he was 5th of penguins dmen in terms of ATOI. behind schultz, dumo, letang, and marino. Marino looks like a legit top 4. Petterson looks like a band-aid 2nd pairing guy AT BEST.

Dec. 2, 2020 at 4:04 p.m.

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petterson is not that good. he was 5th of penguins dmen in terms of ATOI. behind schultz, dumo, letang, and marino. Marino looks like a legit top 4. Petterson looks like a band-aid 2nd pairing guy AT BEST.

Another L comment here. Petterson is a legit top 4 guy and would be by far Boston’s best LHD LOL

Dec. 2, 2020 at 4:05 p.m.

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No, we lost in the “play-in” round. But the year prior we were; 2018-19.

Ya, for sure he is. He’s really good. Him and Marino are gonna be even better this year. Yes, he’s been the LHD on the Pens second pairing the last 2 years. Played 19.30, so 19 and a half minutes game last year. And 17 in 2018-19 when he was just 22 years old. He’ll play 20 plus this year.

Eh, I’m not buying it. Maybe you’re right about what he turns out to be. I kind of think you’re projecting what he will be rather than what he is. I don’t think he’s a good second pair d man for a playoff team today.

Dec. 2, 2020 at 4:06 p.m.

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Devils arent in cap jail like toronto was... palmieri has a decent contract that can easily be retained on to drive value up, not to mention 5 straight years of 20 plus goal scoring, smart player. No petterson is not even close to palmieri in terms of value, while we are talking about value... zboril is likely making the roster this year whether its vaak/zboril or zboril/vaak the bruins arent trading him for a 4th liner.

Good luck man. You have no clue who Pettersson or ZAR are. And obviously never watched either play. Or looked at their advanced stats. ZAR is a top 5 4th line player in the NHL. He had Selke votes last year. Peterson is a proven top LHD, on a play-off team. played 20 minutes a game last year, 17 minutes the year b4 when he was only 22 years old. He has great analytics too. Just signed long-term to a reasonable deal.

Funny, Boston fans on the last deal I posted with the same deal we’re into the trade, they knew who ZAR is.

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Devils arent in cap jail like toronto was... palmieri has a decent contract that can easily be retained on to drive value up, not to mention 5 straight years of 20 plus goal scoring, smart player. No petterson is not even close to palmieri in terms of value, while we are talking about value... zboril is likely making the roster this year whether its vaak/zboril or zboril/vaak the bruins arent trading him for a 4th liner.

A UFA top 6 forward for a legit top 4 young D. I’ll keep Petterson thank you very much

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Eh, I’m not buying it. Maybe you’re right about what he turns out to be. I kind of think you’re projecting what he will be rather than what he is. I don’t think he’s a good second pair d man for a playoff team today.

Watch him play and look at his advance stats. He is clearly a legit top 4 D and would be Boston’s best LHD. Both the eye test and the advance stats favour MP. Not only is he a good top 4 D for a playoff team, but he’s also a top 4 D for a cup caliber team as well.

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I doubt it. A proven top 4 LHD on a play-off team. Still only 24 years old, and signed long-term to a reasonable deal. A.Johnsson brought back J.Anderson. I don’t see Palmieri value being much higher. Or higher at all. Especially if he’s trades at the TD.

I can see him bringing back futures at the TD. Like a “B”, “B+” prospect and a draft pick. But Petterson is more valueable than that. He’s a proven top 4 D. And like i said, still just 24. And has 2 years NHL experience already. And play-off experience.

The Devils just traded for Murray and Smith will be in the NHL next year. If they trade for Pettersson, the would have Butcher, Pettersson, Murray, Smith, Kulikov all on the left side.

Palmieri is one of the Devils best forward, leading goal scorer, and could be the future captain. They NEED Palmieri more than Petterson.

Dec. 2, 2020 at 4:08 p.m.

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Watch him play and look at his advance stats. He is clearly a legit top 4 D and would be Boston’s best LHD. Both the eye test and the advance stats favour MP.

Well, i don’t care about the advanced stats. Like, not one bit. I definitely need to watch him play more, but if you think he’s better than Matt grzelcyk, I’ve seen him play enough to say you’re wrong about that one.

Dec. 2, 2020 at 4:11 p.m.

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Well, i don’t care about the advanced stats. Like, not one bit. I definitely need to watch him play more, but if you think he’s better than Matt grzelcyk, I’ve seen him play enough to say you’re wrong about that one.

He is easily better than Gryz LOL. Petterson is clear cut a legit top 4 D and there is no debate on it. Petterson is 2 years younger, with similar production to Gryz, better advance stats, and more minutes played. He’s clear cut better

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Dec. 2, 2020 at 4:11 p.m.

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petterson is not that good. he was 5th of penguins dmen in terms of ATOI. behind schultz, dumo, letang, and marino. Marino looks like a legit top 4. Petterson looks like a band-aid 2nd pairing guy AT BEST.

By 20 seconds a game. Patterson has been our 2nd pairing LHD for 2 years now. Since he was 22 years old. U obviously don’t know who he is or never watched him play. He payed 19 and a half minutes a game last year and 17 the year b4 when he was 22. On a play-off team. The coach had a hard on for JJ and Shultz last year. Every analyst, beat writer, reporter, and fans were screaming for them to play less minutes last year. This year, Pettersson and Marino will play 20 minutes plus agame. And Matheson/Ruthwedel, Ceci platoon will play real 3rd pairing minutes and play 8-14 minutes a game.

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Good luck man. You have no clue who Pettersson or ZAR are. And obviously never watched either play. Or looked at their advanced stats. ZAR is a top 5 4th line player in the NHL. He had Selke votes last year. Peterson is a proven top LHD, on a play-off team. played 20 minutes a game last year, 17 minutes the year b4 when he was only 22 years old. He has great analytics too. Just signed long-term to a reasonable deal.

Funny, Boston fans on the last deal I posted with the same deal we’re into the trade, they knew who ZAR is.

I think pens are the most hated team on this site based on comments

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Dec. 2, 2020 at 4:14 p.m.

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Eh, I’m not buying it. Maybe you’re right about what he turns out to be. I kind of think you’re projecting what he will be rather than what he is. I don’t think he’s a good second pair d man for a playoff team today.

He’s already was. And almost 2 years in a row. He was our 2nd pairing LHD in 2018-19. A play-off team. Played 17 minutes a game. On a play-off team. Played 18 and a half in the play_offs. A good defensive team too. Last year him and Marino were out 2nd pairing. Pettersson played 19 and a half minutes a game. And great analytics. You just said, you don’t watch him play, I’m not lying to u man. He’s gonna play 20 minutes plus a game this year.

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Dec. 2, 2020 at 4:17 p.m.

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He is easily better than Gryz LOL. Petterson is clear cut a legit top 4 D and there is no debate on it.

Okay, then why doesn’t he play over 20 minutes?

You can lol all you want, but at 5 on 5 grizz played a lot on the first pair. And he did for a good team.

Pettersson was 6th on the penguins D for TOI per game last year. Why was that? Why did the penguins trust Jack Johnson to play more than him if he’s such a clear cut legit top four?

If Pettersson is suuuuuuch a clear cut, no debate about it top four no brainer superstar, why did the penguins feel the need to get Matheson? Seems weird.

I’ll watch him more, but basic logic would indicate he’s a nice third pair guy who can fill in for an injury at a number 4 roll.

Dec. 2, 2020 at 4:18 p.m.

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He’s already was. And almost 2 years in a row. He was our 2nd pairing LHD in 2018-19. A play-off team. Played 17 minutes a game. On a play-off team. Played 18 and a half in the play_offs. A good defensive team too. Last year him and Marino were out 2nd pairing. Pettersson played 19 and a half minutes a game. And great analytics. You just said, you don’t watch him play, I’m not lying to u man. He’s gonna play 20 minutes plus a game this year.

17 minutes a game eh? You know what that is? Thats a third pair d man. I’m. Not saying he didn’t spend a good chunk of time on the second pair, but its pretty commonplace for a guy that isn’t really trusted to be yanked off for unfavorable matchups. 17 minutes is a third pair caliber guy. He’s young. He certainly could raise his game.

Dec. 2, 2020 at 4:20 p.m.

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The Devils just traded for Murray and Smith will be in the NHL next year. If they trade for Pettersson, the would have Butcher, Pettersson, Murray, Smith, Kulikov all on the left side.

Palmieri is one of the Devils best forward, leading goal scorer, and could be the future captain. They NEED Palmieri more than Petterson.

Yep, Murray and Kulikov are both on expiring contracts. So is Palmieri. A future captain, he’s most likely gone next year.

Dec. 2, 2020 at 4:21 p.m.

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17 minutes a game eh? You know what that is? Thats a third pair d man. I’m. Not saying he didn’t spend a good chunk of time on the second pair, but its pretty commonplace for a guy that isn’t really trusted to be yanked off for unfavorable matchups. 17 minutes is a third pair caliber guy. He’s young. He certainly could raise his game.

I promise man. I’m not lying. He played 18 and a half minutes in the play-offs in 2018-19 when he was 22 years old.

1st pairing 22-25 minutes a game
2nd pairing 16-22 minutes a game
3rd pairing 8-15 minutes a game.

Again he played 19.30 minutes a game last year. 19 and a half minutes a game. 19.44, almost 20 minutes a game in the play-off round last year at 23 years old.

And our D was solid

We had Dumoulin/Letang
pettersson/Marino
J.Johnson/Shultz

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