Quoting: Isles777
Niederreiter has been a high end 2nd liner for most of his career and one of the best defensive forwards. The trade was awful
That trade wasn't great value on paper but Clutterbuck brought us a lot of good hockey. He's #2 on the BFLIH and I think if that line gets broken up he can jump up to the third and play with Pageau. They looked nice together. Also Nino's not that good defensively I don't think. I've never heard anyone talk about him that way.
Quoting: AndrewLadd
More Lou than Trotz. The Toews trade has left such a bitter taste in my mouth (and I feel he could’ve done much better on the Pulock contract.) I also don’t like the handling of prospects. The only rookie I expect to see full time this year is Dobson, which don’t get me wrong he’s awesome, but I’d like to see Wahlstrom this year. The team could use his shot. I also think Aho is a solid piece and I’d like to see him get playing time. I’ve had my gripes with Trotz, but I definitely can’t deny the turnaround he did on team defense when he first came here is nothing short of astounding
I'm not happy about the Toews trade or the Pulock contract either, although I've come to accept both. Toews had to be done with the amount of money he was going to get, I wouldn't have given him as much as he got with Colorado and arbitration for a guy like him when we're in the cap situation we're in is very scary. I wish we did something like Toews for DeBrusk but let's see what Lou does with those picks first. Pulock's contract was more pandemic-related than Lou related in my opinion. I think we'll be able to re-sign him.
I agree that Dobson should be getting full minutes this year and I'd like to see Wahlstrom too. Lou said he was obviously very upset with trading Toews, but he felt Dobson can adequately take his place. That's pretty high praise for a 20-year old. Dobson will be on the team out of camp, I don't think Wahlstrom will but I see him as a mid-season call up that doesn't go back down.
Quoting: Lenny7
Hahaha, I was thinking Ho-Sang, since that was during Lou's tenure.
I feel like Nino takes a lot of crap here though...he's a bit overpaid, and the offence hasn't been there, but he's actually an analytic darling.
Lol I forgot about Ho-Sang tbh. Ho-Sang has no value or leverage, he shouldn't have demanded a trade like he did. I'm sure Lou tried to trade him and no one was interested. Regarding Nino, it sounded like the coaching staff hated his attitude. I'm sure he's grown up as a person since then, but I'm really not overly upset about him being gone.
Quoting: Lenny7
If Dobson spends half the season in the press box again, I swear to god...
He won't, and there was nothing wrong with him spending time in the press box this season either. He ended up playing 34 games. It wasn't like that season we had Matt Donovan and he played 12 games (which I know is different cause Donovan was trash, but still).