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Dec. 4, 2020 at 10:45 a.m.
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Bad deal for Colorado if they do it, good for Pittsburgh. Anyways, Nichushkin just re-signed, he won't get moved. Acciari isn't a 3rd liner by the way.
Dec. 4, 2020 at 10:46 a.m.
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Bad deal for Colorado if they do it, good for Pittsburgh. Anyways, Nichushkin just re-signed, he won't get moved. Acciari isn't a 3rd liner by the way.


What is he then?
Dec. 4, 2020 at 10:46 a.m.
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Bad deal for Colorado if they do it, good for Pittsburgh. Anyways, Nichushkin just re-signed, he won't get moved. Acciari isn't a 3rd liner by the way.


McCann would be good for COL, he can score and move. Where would you put Acciari?
Dec. 4, 2020 at 10:47 a.m.
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What is he then?


4th liner.
Dec. 4, 2020 at 10:47 a.m.
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What is he then?


Exactly. He is a bottom 6 guy that can play 2nd line when injuries occur.
Dec. 4, 2020 at 10:47 a.m.
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Quoting: bhavikp27
4th liner.


Not too sure about that.
Dec. 4, 2020 at 10:48 a.m.
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McCann would be good for COL, he can score and move. Where would you put Acciari?


That's good but Nichushkin can also do that while being way better defensively.
Dec. 4, 2020 at 10:50 a.m.
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Quoting: bhavikp27
That's good but Nichushkin can also do that while being way better defensively.


McCann had more blocks and can play center. Pens in general were bad defensively so plus/minus is going to be down.
Dec. 4, 2020 at 10:52 a.m.
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Not too sure about that.


I've watched Acciari for four years and followed him with the Panthers last year. He is a 4th liner that can move up on the 3rd line for short-term (with better linemates) but he isn't a top6 player. He was more productive last season because he played with a better quality of teammates and that S% isn't sustainable/is more of luck.
Dec. 4, 2020 at 10:54 a.m.
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I've watched Acciari for four years and followed him with the Panthers last year. He is a 4th liner that can move up on the 3rd line for short-term (with better linemates) but he isn't a top6 player. He was more productive last season because he played with a better quality of teammates and that S% isn't sustainable/is more of luck.


So with Haula and McCann/Val you don't think he would be a solid fit?
Dec. 4, 2020 at 10:57 a.m.
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So with Haula and McCann/Val you don't think he would be a solid fit?


It could work but I hope for you they produce enough offensively.
Dec. 4, 2020 at 10:58 a.m.
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McCann had more blocks and can play center. Pens in general were bad defensively so plus/minus is going to be down.


Nichushkin was top 10 in Selke and has as much upside as McC. I don't see a reason why the Avs go for this, much less add.
Dec. 4, 2020 at 11:01 a.m.
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It could work but I hope for you they produce enough offensively.


Haula scored 29 goals in a year in the NHL. It could certainly work.
Dec. 4, 2020 at 11:02 a.m.
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Nichushkin was top 10 in Selke and has as much upside as McC. I don't see a reason why the Avs go for this, much less add.


What would you add then?
Dec. 4, 2020 at 11:05 a.m.
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What would you add then?


I actually don't think the value of the proposal is awful. It's just that there isn't really motivation for the Avs to go from Nichushkin to McCann. It would probably take an overpay to provide enough incentive.

Just my opinion.
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Dec. 4, 2020 at 11:09 a.m.
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I actually don't think the value of the proposal is awful. It's just that there isn't really motivation for the Avs to go from Nichushkin to McCann. It would probably take an overpay to provide enough incentive.

Just my opinion.


They are similar players really just think McCann is worth more because of more offensive upside.
Dec. 4, 2020 at 11:12 a.m.
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Bad deal for Colorado if they do it, good for Pittsburgh. Anyways, Nichushkin just re-signed, he won't get moved. Acciari isn't a 3rd liner by the way.


How is getting the better player bad for Colorado?

Nichushkin, 4th for McCann 6th
The 4th and 6th aren't enough to balance the scales, close, but not quite. Maybe Nichushkin, 3rd for McCann flat.
Dec. 4, 2020 at 11:23 a.m.
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penguin fans..

Avs are not gong to trade Nichushkin to you guys. Its time to move on from this idea...I Mean you didnt even make the Avs cap compliant with this trade taking on more salary. Its not happening
Dec. 4, 2020 at 11:37 a.m.
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They are similar players really just think McCann is worth more because of more offensive upside.


That's not an unfair view. I think some of the more advanced metrics would indicate Nichushkin is the more valuable player though. It depends on how teams view the players.

Like I say, I don't think the value is wildly out of whack or anything. I just don't see the motivation for Colorado to move a guy they know fits unless there is a real incentive to do so.
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Dec. 4, 2020 at 11:42 a.m.
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Haula scored 29 goals in a year in the NHL. It could certainly work.


Yes, that was 3 seasons ago and his career-high. It's unlikely he reproduces that and he was the 2C for Vegas that year. He's averaged 18 goals/82 GP since then.

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How is getting the better player bad for Colorado?

Nichushkin, 4th for McCann 6th
The 4th and 6th aren't enough to balance the scales, close, but not quite. Maybe Nichushkin, 3rd for McCann flat.


I disagree here. Nichushkin is better defensively and offensively. I wouldn't do this trade just like @Anus_McLeod.
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Dec. 4, 2020 at 7:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Yojimbo
How is getting the better player bad for Colorado?

Nichushkin, 4th for McCann 6th
The 4th and 6th aren't enough to balance the scales, close, but not quite. Maybe Nichushkin, 3rd for McCann flat.


McCann is better than Nichushkin. McCann has had back to back 35 point seasons. And 19 goals in 18-19. You are looking at his stat line wrong!! You are looking at it and not adding the 2 lines together in 18-19. It’s not 2 separate seasons..lol. He split the year between 2 teams. And McCann is only 24 years old. Made the NHL when he was 19 years old and has never looked back. And he’s been bounced around from 3C, to top 6 LW, to 3rd line LW, to 2C when Sid or Geno miss time. And this year, he’ll score 20 plus goals. They already said, they are keeping him on the LW so he can do what he does best, and just snipe!! Score goals, he has a great shot!! And young players need that consistency and routine. Like I said, he’s been jumped around to anywhere we were weak and needed him. Usually only veteran players are good at that, being a utility type player. The young players need that consistency and routine or u could ruin them. This year, he is gonna easily score 20 plus goals; he already scored 19 in a season. And he’s a good two-way player.
Dec. 4, 2020 at 7:56 p.m.
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McCann would be good for COL, he can score and move. Where would you put Acciari?


I wouldn’t trade McCann for Nichushkin!! McCann is better right now and way more potential
Dec. 4, 2020 at 7:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Anus_McLeod
Nichushkin was top 10 in Selke and has as much upside as McC. I don't see a reason why the Avs go for this, much less add.


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Yes, that was 3 seasons ago and his career-high. It's unlikely he reproduces that and he was the 2C for Vegas that year. He's averaged 18 goals/82 GP since then.



I disagree here. Nichushkin is better defensively and offensively. I wouldn't do this trade just like @Anus_McLeod.


McCann is better than Nichushkin. McCann has had back to back 35 point seasons. And 19 goals in 18-19. You are looking at his stat line wrong!! You are looking at it and not adding the 2 lines together in 18-19. It’s not 2 separate seasons..lol. He split the year between 2 teams. And McCann is only 24 years old. Made the NHL when he was 19 years old and has never looked back. And he’s been bounced around from 3C, to top 6 LW, to 3rd line LW, to 2C when Sid or Geno miss time. And this year, he’ll score 20 plus goals. They already said, they are keeping him on the LW so he can do what he does best, and just snipe!! Score goals, he has a great shot!! And young players need that consistency and routine. Like I said, he’s been jumped around to anywhere we were weak and needed him. Usually only veteran players are good at that, being a utility type player. The young players need that consistency and routine or u could ruin them. This year, he is gonna easily score 20 plus goals; he already scored 19 in a season. And he’s a good two-way player. Ya sure, Nichushkin is better defensively, he had Selke votes last year!! But McCann is a lot better offensively right now!! And much more potential.
Dec. 4, 2020 at 8:02 p.m.
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McCann is better than Nichushkin. McCann has had back to back 35 point seasons. And 19 goals in 18-19. You are looking at his stat line wrong!! You are looking at it and not adding the 2 lines together in 18-19. It’s not 2 separate seasons..lol. He split the year between 2 teams. And McCann is only 24 years old. Made the NHL when he was 19 years old and has never looked back. And he’s been bounced around from 3C, to top 6 LW, to 3rd line LW, to 2C when Sid or Geno miss time. And this year, he’ll score 20 plus goals. They already said, they are keeping him on the LW so he can do what he does best, and just snipe!! Score goals, he has a great shot!! And young players need that consistency and routine. Like I said, he’s been jumped around to anywhere we were weak and needed him. Usually only veteran players are good at that, being a utility type player. The young players need that consistency and routine or u could ruin them. This year, he is gonna easily score 20 plus goals; he already scored 19 in a season. And he’s a good two-way player. Ya sure, Nichushkin is better defensively, he had Selke votes last year!! But McCann is a lot better offensively right now!! And much more potential.


I don't only look at points when I talk about how good a player is offensively. As I said, I will just agree to disagree.
Dec. 4, 2020 at 8:04 p.m.
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I don't only look at points when I talk about how good a player is offensively. As I said, I will just agree to disagree.


Well goals then.
 
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