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The HUGE 10 - Player Trade with TOR - NYRs view point

Created by: Sidstick87
Initial Creation Date: Dec 6, 2020
Published: Dec 6, 2020 at 2:19
Team: 2020-21 New York Rangers
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1st off I'm a Pens but was going over NHL Rosters and thought I seen a Trade between 2 teams that would work out for Both Teams ???

BUT I could be.. Wrong, Close, Very Wrong, Kind of Close, Totally Insane, Maybe Kind of Right, OR maybe just an idea throwing out there???

Again, I am Not Sure bc I'm not a NYR or TOR fan, so take it easy on me, lol
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TO Me & IMO ........

Toronto is too Top Heavy & needs some pieces spread out into Roster to be a Great & Complete Team. You are just not going to win w/ [4] Forwards taking up 50% of ur Cap, Its never going to happen.

NYR are a real #1 Center away (altho I do Love Zibby as a Great & maybe a Top 3 in NHL as a #2 Center) from being an un - stoppable Force for many years to come.

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All Players Listed on {LTIR} could see time on team bc of Injuries or they could make team.
* B. Smith is Not bc he needed to count as a buried contract.
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Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Vatanen, Sami1$2,000,000
Gauthier, Frédérik1$700,000
Sheahan, Riley1$700,000
Athanasiou, Andreas1$1,000,000
Ritchie, Brett1$700,000
Elie, Remi1$700,000
Folin, Christian1$700,000
Trades
NYR
  1. Tavares, John
  2. Andersen, Frederik
  3. Dermott, Travis
  4. Engvall, Pierre
Additional Details:
[NYR] gets the Best {2} Vet Players in Deal to lead all the young Up and coming Stars in this line-up. PLUS would really p*** off the NYI, lol.

~ A Legit #1 NHL Center :
JT91
~ A Legit #1 Goalie & Help Shesty :
Freddy
~ A Top 4 LHD w/ Upside still :
Dermott
~ A young / solid bottom 6 C/LW :
Engvall
TOR
  1. Deangelo, Anthony
  2. Strome, Ryan
  3. Buchnevich, Pavel
  4. Georgiev, Alexandar
  5. Kravtsov, Vitali
  6. Howden, Brett
Additional Details:
[TOR] gets younger / more Cap Realistic by spreading out the $ and creating a better "Team". PLUS All 6 players are controlled for at least 2yrs.

~ A Top 4 / Top Pair RHD :
DeAngelo - AKA-Brown Sugar
~ A Great 2nd Line C replacement :
Strome
~ A skilled Top 6 LW :
Buchy
~ A younger/cheaper Starting Goalie :
Georgiev
~ A Powerfull LW Prospect :
Kravtsov
~ A Perfect 3C w/ Upside still :
Howden
Buyouts
  • Kevin Shattenkirk: $6,083,333
  • Henrik Lundqvist: $5,500,000
  • Dan Girardi: $1,111,111
  • Ryan Spooner: $300,000
  • Brad Richards: $0
Buried
  • Brendan Smith: $3,275,000 ($4,350,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
NYR
NYR
BUF
NYR
OTT
NYR
NYR
NYR
2022
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
2023
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$80,831,425$0$10,062,500$668,575
Left WingCenterRight Wing
NYR
Lafrenière, Alexis
$925,000
LW
RFA - 3
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
NYR
Kreider, Chris
$6,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 7
NYR
Panarin, Artemi
$11,642,857
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
NYR
Zibanejad, Mika
$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
NYR
Kakko, Kaapo
$925,000
RW
RFA - 2
Athanasiou, Andreas
$1,000,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
NYR
Chytil, Filip
$894,166
C, LW
RFA - 1
NYR
Gauthier, Julien
$863,333
RW
RFA - 1
NYR
Lemieux, Brendan
$1,550,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Sheahan, Riley
$700,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
NYR
Blackwell, Colin
$725,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
$1,250,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
Gauthier, Frédérik
$700,000
C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$874,125
LD
RFA - 1
NYR
Trouba, Jacob
$8,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 1
NYR
Lindgren, Ryan
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
NYR
Fox, Adam
$925,000
RD
RFA - 2
NYR
Shesterkin, Igor
$925,000
G
RFA - 1
NYR
Bitetto, Anthony
$737,500
LD
UFA - 2
Vatanen, Sami
$2,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
NYR
Johnson, Jack
$1,150,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
NYR
Kinkaid, Keith
$825,000
G
UFA - 2
NYR
Rooney, Kevin
$750,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
NYR
Di Giuseppe, Phillip
$700,000
LW
UFA - 1
Ritchie, Brett
$700,000
RW
UFA - 1
NYR
Brodzinski, Jonny
$700,000
C
UFA - 1
Elie, Remi
$700,000
LW
UFA
NYR
Hájek, Libor
$833,333
LD
RFA - 1
NYR
Rykov, Yegor
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
Folin, Christian
$700,000
RD
UFA

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Dec 6, 2020 at 2:24
#1
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There's this thing called performance bonuses. Have you heard about it?
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Dec 6, 2020 at 2:24
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Meh
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Tavares will not move his NMC clause. Dubas would never acquire a player with even a small fraction of the history of racism that Deangelo has.

Both those make this a non-starter without even taking the time to assess the value going both ways.
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Dec 6, 2020 at 3:20
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Quoting: Vaher28
There's this thing called performance bonuses. Have you heard about it?


Yes, My Ex used to give them to me.
Dec 6, 2020 at 3:29
#4
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Quoting: Sidstick87
Yes, My Ex used to give them to me.


@Vaher28 is referring to “ a team can exceed the salary cap due to performance bonuses by the maximum performance bonus cushion amount of 7.5 percent of the upper limit”. Therefore, you’re not cap compliant by a fair bit even if you rolled over the max performance bonuses.

Source: https://www.capfriendly.com/faq#performance_bonus
Dec 6, 2020 at 5:21
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Joined: Apr 2016
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Quoting: BStinson
@Vaher28 is referring to “ a team can exceed the salary cap due to performance bonuses by the maximum performance bonus cushion amount of 7.5 percent of the upper limit”. Therefore, you’re not cap compliant by a fair bit even if you rolled over the max performance bonuses.

Source: https://www.capfriendly.com/faq#performance_bonus


More precise: 81.5mx7.5%= 6.1125m max in bonuses JUST to be league compliant (so GMs don't shoot themselves in the foot and have to move players). Here, 10.0625m-6.1125m= *3.95m NEEDED in Cap just to start the season. YET realistically we'll probably need **7m in bonuses by seasons end.
Which is why we say no thank you to this cap crazy deal
Dec 6, 2020 at 5:25
#6
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 457
Likes: 55
Not for Tavares...
Sub in Matthews.

Toronto can keep F. Andersen... he is useless. And would never play ahead of Igor.
 
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