Dayoff should of made these trades

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Roslovic, Jack	2	$2,350,000

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$78,759,524	$0	$0	$2,740,476

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Laine, Patrik $4,995,000$4,995,000 C, RW, LW UFA - 1	Scheifele, Mark $6,125,000$6,125,000 C M-NTC UFA - 4	Ehlers, Nikolaj $6,000,000$6,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 5
Connor, Kyle $7,142,857$7,142,857 LW UFA - 6	Stastny, Paul $6,500,000$6,500,000 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Wheeler, Blake $8,250,000$8,250,000 RW NMC UFA - 4
Harkins, Jansen $725,000$725,000 LW UFA - 2	Copp, Andrew $2,280,000$2,280,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1	Roslovic, Jack $2,350,000$2,350,000 C, RW UFA - 2
Perreault, Mathieu $4,125,000$4,125,000 LW, RW, C M-NTC UFA - 1		Appleton, Mason $900,000$900,000 RW UFA - 2
Toninato, Dominic $700,000$700,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Thompson, Nate $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Morrissey, Joshua $6,250,000$6,250,000 LD UFA - 8	Murray, Ryan $4,600,000$4,600,000 LD UFA - 1	Hellebuyck, Connor $6,166,667$6,166,667 G UFA - 4
Toews, Devon $4,100,000$4,100,000 LD UFA - 4	Pionk, Neal $3,000,000$3,000,000 RD UFA - 1	Brossoit, Laurent $1,500,000$1,500,000 G UFA - 1
Niku, Sami $725,000$725,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Poolman, Tucker $775,000$775,000 RD UFA - 1
Sbisa, Luca $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Little, Bryan $5,291,667$5,291,667 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 4

Dec. 6, 2020 at 3:20 p.m.

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Facts.

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Dec. 6, 2020 at 3:57 p.m.

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As an Avs fan, my second thought after Joe acquired Toews was: why the heck didn't the Jets beat this offer?

For the record, my first thought was: holy crap we just got Toews!

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Dec. 6, 2020 at 4:02 p.m.

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penguins didn't want to let Riikola go as he's good cheap depth.
So there goes that.

I don't think Murray is your guy to be honest with you. He is a good player, but the injury history is real. He'd be on IR for you in no time, especially as your 1RD.

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Dec. 6, 2020 at 4:05 p.m.

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Quoting: Anus_McLeod

As an Avs fan, my second thought after Joe acquired Toews was: why the heck didn't the Jets beat this offer?

And would they even needed to beat it, good chance the Islanders prefer the odds of the Jets picks being earlier then the Avs but yeah two 2nds is pretty reasonable imo, adding another later pick or a
B/C-prospect wouldn't of been some huge overpay.

Idk if it's a question of Chevy beating the Avs offer or just not being in on it to start with, really think the guy is just out of touch or something, swear he has a cabin on some island with zero cell service and that's where he spends the majority of his time.. Lol

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Dec. 6, 2020 at 4:13 p.m.

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penguins didn't want to let Riikola go as he's good cheap depth.
So there goes that.

I don't think Murray is your guy to be honest with you. He is a good player, but the injury history is real. He'd be on IR for you in no time, especially as your 1RD.

Oops I see I typo'd that and put devoting instead of demoting.. Lol

Honestly I think unless there's an injury Riikola gets sent to the AHL and he clears easily, regardless I know Rutherford had interest in Lowry before and I'm sure he would of figured something out to acquire him if Chevy made a call, the Jets love Lowry though unfortunately and the reality is they wouldn't of traded him, they value a ****ty plug player over improving their ****ty D core apparently.

I get what you're saying about Murray but still think it would've been worth the risk and for a 5th round pick who cares, at least he's a legit NHL dman and provides some depth and pairing options compared to what they have now.

Dec. 6, 2020 at 4:28 p.m.

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Tbh, I think he definitely missed out on Murray but I’m not so sure I would even want teows. Hear me out

The expansion draft is in a year and we’d have 4 top 4 defensemen to protect. Obviously a team like the jetsxwoudlnt go 4 and 4 so that leaves someone to either be trades or exposed. Tbh, I try to trade teows at that point since we need demelo (we don’t have many rd prospects). I’ve been saying this since the jets drafted heinola but the jets don’t need a long term #2 ld option. Sure having too many top 4 d-man is a good problem to have but chevy isn’t the type to get into problems like that, especially if he’s giving 2 seconds to get him in the first place, which was a steal but still 2 seconds still isn’t nothing. They need a stopgap option. Therefore, with heinola, Samberg, and/or niku all possibly being ready for top 4 minutes now, I don’t think getting teows as a RFA would be worth the price for the jets all that much. Also teows isn’t all that big so I’m not so sure I want to add the the jets’s already small d-core

As for Murray, WTF were u doing chevy????????? Even if you don’t want him on the jets (though I really do), you get him and flip him for more like the sharks did with Hoffman a few years back

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Dec. 6, 2020 at 4:32 p.m.

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

Oops I see I typo'd that and put devoting instead of demoting.. Lol

Honestly I think unless there's an injury Riikola gets sent to the AHL and he clears easily, regardless I know Rutherford had interest in Lowry before and I'm sure he would of figured something out to acquire him if Chevy made a call, the Jets love Lowry though unfortunately and the reality is they wouldn't of traded him, they value a ****ty plug player over improving their ****ty D core apparently.

I get what you're saying about Murray but still think it would've been worth the risk and for a 5th round pick who cares, at least he's a legit NHL dman and provides some depth and pairing options compared to what they have now.

I watch a lot of CBJ games, the guy is always hurt. He's made of glass. It's like acquiring Bjugstad. You can expect he'll be on IR.
That doesn't help you win games, it just eats up your cap and prevents you from making other moves.
In this environment Riikola might slip through, no doubt. But they would rather send Chad down. They got issues well beyond this though.
Is there gonna be a AHL season, if not what do they do with guys who are close to playing like Maniscalco and POJ. I mean there might be movement on that bottom defense anyway.
So I'm sure they can open cap if they needed to. But at the same point in time, I'm not sure he's a move they make. He's definitely not the get faster they are looking for.
But it doesn't matter. Murray is not your guy.
Vatanen or Hamonic are better options for you, and both are still available. Both of which probably come cheaper and cost you no assets on 1 year deals.

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Dec. 6, 2020 at 4:35 p.m.

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Quoting: arafay

Tbh, I think he definitely missed out on Murray but I’m not so sure I would even want teows. Hear me out

The expansion draft is in a year and we’d have 4 top 4 defensemen to protect. Obviously a team like the jetsxwoudlnt go 4 and 4 so that leaves someone to either be trades or exposed. Tbh, I try to trade teows at that point since we need demelo (we don’t have many rd prospects). I’ve been saying this since the jets drafted heinola but the jets don’t need a long term #2 ld option. Sure having too many top 4 d-man is a good problem to have but chevy isn’t the type to get into problems like that, especially if he’s giving 2 seconds to get him in the first place, which was a steal but still 2 seconds still isn’t nothing. They need a stopgap option. Therefore, with heinola, Samberg, and/or niku all possibly being ready for top 4 minutes now, I don’t think getting teows as a RFA would be worth the price for the jets all that much. Also teows isn’t all that big so I’m not so sure I want to add the the jets’s already small d-core

As for Murray, WTF were u doing chevy????????? Even if you don’t want him on the jets (though I really do), you get him and flip him for more like the sharks did with Hoffman a few years back

teams are worried about flipping players. There is talk of 2 week mandatory quarantine if that effects players being traded, it's a **** show.
GMs have stated this. They don't think there will be many in season trades. It just causes too many roster problems.

Dec. 6, 2020 at 4:43 p.m.

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Quoting: pharrow

I watch a lot of CBJ games, the guy is always hurt. He's made of glass. It's like acquiring Bjugstad. You can expect he'll be on IR.
That doesn't help you win games, it just eats up your cap and prevents you from making other moves.
In this environment Riikola might slip through, no doubt. But they would rather send Chad down. They got issues well beyond this though.
Is there gonna be a AHL season, if not what do they do with guys who are close to playing like Maniscalco and POJ. I mean there might be movement on that bottom defense anyway.
So I'm sure they can open cap if they needed to. But at the same point in time, I'm not sure he's a move they make. He's definitely not the get faster they are looking for.
But it doesn't matter. Murray is not your guy.
Vatanen or Hamonic are better options for you, and both are still available. Both of which probably come cheaper and cost you no assets on 1 year deals.

I'm not sure about an AHL season but would they create some kind of expanded rosters where guys can be shuffled to the main and secondary roster as needed to meet the cap without having to clear waivers, they'll have to do something and if there's no AHL season and the NHL season is condensed they're probably going to need to do something like that plus they'll need the spare bodies, idk but just a guess/idea/theory.

Not sure if Vatanen would sign in Winnipeg and Hamonic probably wants term, Murray might of been the perfect stopgap for the Jets with Samberg, Heinola and many other LHD prospects in the waiting even with Murray's injury history, it's the law of averages, at some point he's gotta get through a season without a major injury.. Lol

I get your point though, thanks for the feedback!

Dec. 6, 2020 at 4:48 p.m.

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Tbh, I think he definitely missed out on Murray but I’m not so sure I would even want teows. Hear me out

The expansion draft is in a year and we’d have 4 top 4 defensemen to protect. Obviously a team like the jetsxwoudlnt go 4 and 4 so that leaves someone to either be trades or exposed. Tbh, I try to trade teows at that point since we need demelo (we don’t have many rd prospects). I’ve been saying this since the jets drafted heinola but the jets don’t need a long term #2 ld option. Sure having too many top 4 d-man is a good problem to have but chevy isn’t the type to get into problems like that, especially if he’s giving 2 seconds to get him in the first place, which was a steal but still 2 seconds still isn’t nothing. They need a stopgap option. Therefore, with heinola, Samberg, and/or niku all possibly being ready for top 4 minutes now, I don’t think getting teows as a RFA would be worth the price for the jets all that much. Also teows isn’t all that big so I’m not so sure I want to add the the jets’s already small d-core

As for Murray, WTF were u doing chevy????????? Even if you don’t want him on the jets (though I really do), you get him and flip him for more like the sharks did with Hoffman a few years back

I get what you're saying about the expansion draft but I think it's simple and you don't protect DeMelo.

In reality I think there's some trade coming with Seattle no matter what.

Dec. 6, 2020 at 5:08 p.m.

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Quoting: arafay

Tbh, I think he definitely missed out on Murray but I’m not so sure I would even want teows. Hear me out

The expansion draft is in a year and we’d have 4 top 4 defensemen to protect. Obviously a team like the jetsxwoudlnt go 4 and 4 so that leaves someone to either be trades or exposed. Tbh, I try to trade teows at that point since we need demelo (we don’t have many rd prospects). I’ve been saying this since the jets drafted heinola but the jets don’t need a long term #2 ld option. Sure having too many top 4 d-man is a good problem to have but chevy isn’t the type to get into problems like that, especially if he’s giving 2 seconds to get him in the first place, which was a steal but still 2 seconds still isn’t nothing. They need a stopgap option. Therefore, with heinola, Samberg, and/or niku all possibly being ready for top 4 minutes now, I don’t think getting teows as a RFA would be worth the price for the jets all that much. Also teows isn’t all that big so I’m not so sure I want to add the the jets’s already small d-core

As for Murray, WTF were u doing chevy????????? Even if you don’t want him on the jets (though I really do), you get him and flip him for more like the sharks did with Hoffman a few years back

Toews performed like a top pair guy for the islanders last year. He would’ve been our best defenceman it’s pretty embarrassing to get beat by a divisional rival for 2 2nd round picks when our defence is this bad

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