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Most overrated - not most overpaid

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Initial Creation Date: Nov. 29, 2020
Published: Dec. 7, 2020
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I’m gonna take some heat on this one.
These guys are all overrated based on either:
- riding coattails of linemates
- media overhype
- one good season
- they play(Ed) in Toronto

Some are still good players. Just overrated by their fans or media.
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Dec. 7, 2020 at 5:38 p.m.
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What makes you think Andersen is overrated? Is it cause he had 1 bad season?
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No one is saying Gardiner is good
He’s a NHLer but I don’t think he’s overrated
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Dec. 7, 2020 at 5:40 p.m.
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Quoting: keep_ups12
What makes you think Andersen is overrated? Is it cause he had 1 bad season?


Goalies and Centres were tough. I’d say Andersen is overrated due mainly to leaf media.
Dec. 7, 2020 at 5:40 p.m.
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Subban? I don't think anyone is highly rating him nowadays, but in his prime he was great.
Dec. 7, 2020 at 5:40 p.m.
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should just be a list of every RHD and "tough" player people made a million AGM's for this off season because their values tripled the moments leaf fans wanted them
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Dec. 7, 2020 at 5:41 p.m.
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Quoting: GMs
No one is saying Gardiner is good
He’s a NHLer but I don’t think he’s overrated


As long as Gardiner is in the NHL someone is overrating him.
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Dec. 7, 2020 at 5:43 p.m.
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Goalies and Centres were tough. I’d say Andersen is overrated due mainly to leaf media.


But he was also highly touted in Anaheim. He's played pretty much the same during his time in Anaheim and Toronto (accept this season)
Dec. 7, 2020 at 5:45 p.m.
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Subban? I don't think anyone is highly rating him nowadays, but in his prime he was great.


I meant to delete him actually when I posted this. But now I rest my case as again someone made a trade posting for him haha.
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Dec. 7, 2020 at 5:46 p.m.
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Quoting: keep_ups12
But he was also highly touted in Anaheim. He's played pretty much the same during his time in Anaheim and Toronto (accept this season)


Would you say he is an elite goalie?
Dec. 7, 2020 at 5:48 p.m.
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Klefbom, and Nuge aren’t. If anything they are underrated.
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Dec. 7, 2020 at 5:51 p.m.
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Klefbom, and Nuge aren’t. If anything they are underrated.


Klefbom has literally one season over 70 games.
Dec. 7, 2020 at 5:52 p.m.
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Klefbom has literally one season over 70 games.



That doesn’t make him overrated. When he’s healthy he’s very good.
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Dec. 7, 2020 at 6:04 p.m.
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I agree with the vast majority of these, except Faulk, Gardiner, and duchene. Everyone knows they stink.
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Dec. 7, 2020 at 6:14 p.m.
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Heh. I'd tell you Bozak is actually sorely underrated while also being overpaid. It's a rare animal. squinty smile

And who's overrating Faulk? He's a league-wide whipping boy to the point that most people are too harsh on him. But he's definitely also overpaid.
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Dec. 7, 2020 at 6:17 p.m.
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Kassian isnt overrated, he just sucks
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Dec. 7, 2020 at 6:52 p.m.
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Go leafs go
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"They are over rated because they play(ed) in Toronto".

Biased isn't it.
Dec. 7, 2020 at 6:54 p.m.
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Jeff Skinner?
Dec. 7, 2020 at 7:18 p.m.
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Edited Dec. 7, 2020 at 7:29 p.m.
Bozak is a significant stretch. Is anyone saying Bozak is anything more than a third line center? That's all he's played for the last three years.

Also other people have mentioned it but Anderson was one of the most consistent goalies for the five seasons prior to this one. He posted a .917 or above behind a Leafs defense that, I'm sure we need no reminding, was absolutely garbagio. That's unprecedented goalie consistency. I feel like we gotta give him a mulligan at least once especially when that team happened to feature Cody Ceci in front of him.

I would argue Hamilton is underrated. He's had multiple seasons of +40 points across multiple teams, so we know he's not riding any coattails or just a one off. Are we going to say the overbearing hockey media machine in *checks notes* Raleigh, North Carolina is overhyping him?
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Dec. 7, 2020 at 7:54 p.m.
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I'd be interested to know your thoughts on these players:

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Oscar Klefbom
Dougie Hamilton

Here are my comments based off these factors:
- riding coattails of linemates
- media overhype
- one good season
- they play(Ed) in Toronto

RNH: I assume for this one your are reference the riding of McDavid and Draisaitl's coattails. However, he had 3 50+ point seasons before either of those players were on the team. Obviously his offensive numbers are inflated currently, with 61 points in 65 games in 19-20. But he is extremely sound defensively and is honestly the heart of the Edmonton team.

Klefbom: He has been plagued with injuries so its hard to gauge what his point range would be in an 82 game season. I'd guess 30-35. Again I assume you think he's overrated due to exposure to McDavid and Drai. Fair enough, he is overrated offensively I'll give you that. He is however really underrated defensively. He led the league in blocked shots with 180 and is ranked 12th in the NHL in blocked shots over the past 3 seasons.

Dougie Hamilton: No idea how you think he's overrated. He has been a consistent 40 point D-man for numerous years and took another big step in his offensive development last season. He certainly doesn't ride anyone's coattails that I'm aware of, I think players like Aho and Svech may honestly ride his.

Anyways, let me know your thoughts cause I'm interested to hear it from you.
Dec. 7, 2020 at 9:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Skyraider112
I'd be interested to know your thoughts on these players:

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Oscar Klefbom
Dougie Hamilton

Here are my comments based off these factors:
- riding coattails of linemates
- media overhype
- one good season
- they play(Ed) in Toronto

RNH: I assume for this one your are reference the riding of McDavid and Draisaitl's coattails. However, he had 3 50+ point seasons before either of those players were on the team. Obviously his offensive numbers are inflated currently, with 61 points in 65 games in 19-20. But he is extremely sound defensively and is honestly the heart of the Edmonton team.

Klefbom: He has been plagued with injuries so its hard to gauge what his point range would be in an 82 game season. I'd guess 30-35. Again I assume you think he's overrated due to exposure to McDavid and Drai. Fair enough, he is overrated offensively I'll give you that. He is however really underrated defensively. He led the league in blocked shots with 180 and is ranked 12th in the NHL in blocked shots over the past 3 seasons.

Dougie Hamilton: No idea how you think he's overrated. He has been a consistent 40 point D-man for numerous years and took another big step in his offensive development last season. He certainly doesn't ride anyone's coattails that I'm aware of, I think players like Aho and Svech may honestly ride his.

Anyways, let me know your thoughts cause I'm interested to hear it from you.


All good points from you. I’ll respond to each respectively.

RNH - i struggled with centre’s in this post right from the get go. I say RNH is overrrated due mainly to the points you’ve made and much the same as leaf media, oiler media and fans place him too high. His offensive numbers have been inflated with McDavid and Dry. Is he a solid 3 centre? Absolutely. Higher than that? Debatable.

Klefbom - consistently oiler fans are placing him as a number 1 d man. While his stats like you say have been inflated with again the dynamic duo. Perhaps he is defensively sound to your points. However to be a number 1 d man you need a key characteristic. Reliability. He unfortunately does not have that. And Edmonton would be wise to replace him in that role and use him for what he is. A 3-4 guy.

Hamilton - consistently people place him as an Olympic level defensemen. He is always at the start of trade packages. But when you look past the glam, he’s simply a big bodied offensive d man. That is it. He has had great partners to bail him out in his own end on each team played for. So much to the point that his own defensive end shift starts have dropped significantly.
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Dec. 7, 2020 at 9:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
"They are over rated because they play(ed) in Toronto".

Biased isn't it.


The worst part of being a leaf fan is leaf fans.
Dec. 7, 2020 at 10:05 p.m.
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Jeff Skinner?


Jeff Skinner is still a great player, the only problem with him is his contract.
Dec. 8, 2020 at 8:47 a.m.
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Go leafs go
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Quoting: faulkmydzingel
The worst part of being a leaf fan is leaf fans.


Most leafs fans are sane. There are just a few who are nuts and that is ehat everyone sees for some reason.
Jan. 4, 2021 at 2:04 p.m.
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Quoting: faulkmydzingel
Goalies and Centres were tough. I’d say Andersen is overrated due mainly to leaf media.


Why is Taylor Hall overrated? His career average is 75 points every 82 games, mostly playing alongside centres such as Gagner, Zajac & Soderberg. He is a great forechecker, plays physical & is solid defensively. So I don’t get why he’s on your list.
Jan. 4, 2021 at 2:24 p.m.
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Quoting: faulkmydzingel

RNH ... Is he a solid 3 centre? Absolutely. Higher than that? Debatable.

Just... wow. awesome face
 
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