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Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 7, 2020
Published: Dec. 7, 2020
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Pens help the Blackhawks rebuild with Legare and a 2nd. Pens get their 3C for the next 4 years. Sign him long-term this year.

Pens still have C.Sceviour, Lafferty, Angello, Ruthwedel, Czuczman as NHL caliber depth in the AHL.
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  1. Strome, Dylan [RFA Rights]
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  2. 2021 2nd round pick (PIT)
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Dec. 7, 2020 at 9:17 p.m.
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Yo nice 2021 draft picks
Dec. 7, 2020 at 9:20 p.m.
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Quoting: SlickWilly
Yo nice 2021 draft picks


We don’t need them!! I would have rather a GM that trys to win?? Wouldn’t u?? Rather than a GM that stacks lottery tickets and never cash them in or trades them?? That’s what draft picks are. 1st round picks are about - 60-40 shot. Goes way down from there. I’ll take the proven NHL players and the GM that makes trades and try’s to win. The only time any fans miss the draft picks is draft time..lol. We are all up for trading them except that one day, every fan is mad we didn’t keep any..lol.
Dec. 7, 2020 at 9:27 p.m.
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Chicago Rejects
Dec. 7, 2020 at 9:33 p.m.
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Yep, cause u don’t know who Legare is. 87 points in 68 games. 71 in 61 games in 2 seasons in the Q, 6’0, 205 pounds, captain of his team, scored 3 goals in 2 peseason games last year. Yep, I’m glad it’s your decision too!! Lol. How about IMO Chicago rejects..?? Cause IMO they don’t.
Dec. 7, 2020 at 9:45 p.m.
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I don't think either team does this. Strome isn't really effective/consistent on the 3rd line and neither is McCann. I don't think Pittsburgh wants that as a 3C. They're better off targeting a UFA or a deadline acquisition.
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Dec. 7, 2020 at 10:08 p.m.
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I don't think either team does this. Strome isn't really effective/consistent on the 3rd line and neither is McCann. I don't think Pittsburgh wants that as a 3C. They're better off targeting a UFA or a deadline acquisition.


Lol. McCann has had back to back 35 point seasons?? 19 goals and 35 in 18-19 and 16 goals and 35 points last year?? And he’s only 24 years old, played in the NHL since he was 19 years. I bet every team wishes the 22nd overall pick wins a roster spot at 19 years old and doesn’t look back. He’ll score 20 plus goals this year. I can’t even read anything you wrote after that comment.
Dec. 7, 2020 at 10:39 p.m.
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Quoting: NickC1988
I don't think either team does this. Strome isn't really effective/consistent on the 3rd line and neither is McCann. I don't think Pittsburgh wants that as a 3C. They're better off targeting a UFA or a deadline acquisition.


I'll do you one better.
Strome short handed stats.
https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/s/stromdy01-advanced-sh.html

In his career he has 6.1 minutes of short handed time.....His whole career. The penguins can't do that. Their 3C has to PK, they don't have options with that. They aren't sending Crosby out there to break an ankle blocking a shot and Malkin ain't doing it either.

So this whole trade makes no sense for the penguins.
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Dec. 7, 2020 at 10:56 p.m.
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Neither team wants this. Strome is a #2C scoring center. He's not going to do what PIT is looking for. The Hawks don't want to Legare either. Just because he might be PITs best (2nd best) prospect...doesn't mean he's good. Fringe NHLer most likely.
Dec. 7, 2020 at 11:09 p.m.
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Neither team wants this. Strome is a #2C scoring center. He's not going to do what PIT is looking for. The Hawks don't want to Legare either. Just because he might be PITs best (2nd best) prospect...doesn't mean he's good. Fringe NHLer most likely.


Lol. How come our 4th -5th best prospect, Hallander, now in Torontos system is a “B” prospect and a potential top 6. And Legare, PO-Joseph, Poulin, who all were and our better prospects are bad prospects.

You have no clue my man. Legare is a top 150 prospect in the NHL. He’s a top 6 potential, 6’0 205 pounds, Right-handed shot, scored 3 goals in 2 preseason games last year. Ya, fringe NHL player?? Nothing u say has credibility after that!!
Dec. 7, 2020 at 11:17 p.m.
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Lol. How come our 4th -5th best prospect, Hallander, now in Torontos system is a “B” prospect and a potential top 6. And Legare, PO-Joseph, Poulin, who all were and our better prospects are bad prospects.

You have no clue my man. Legare is a top 150 prospect in the NHL. He’s a top 6 potential.


DeBrincat averaged 2 points a game in junior, that's top 6 potential. A forward putting up a point per game in junior doesn't automatically make him a top 6 potential player. If that was the case every undrafted overager would sign NHL contracts. There are several players that average over a point per game in junior that haven't reached the NHL. Legare's ceiling is probably middle six, but not every prospect reaches their potential. So the hawks trading Strome for two unknowns probably makes them decline.
Dec. 7, 2020 at 11:18 p.m.
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Lol. How come our 4th -5th best prospect, Hallander, now in Torontos system is a “B” prospect and a potential top 6. And Legare, PO-Joseph, Poulin, who all were and our better prospects are bad prospects.

You have no clue my man. Legare is a top 150 prospect in the NHL. He’s a top 6 potential, 6’0 205 pounds, Right-handed shot, scored 3 goals in 2 preseason games last year. Ya, fringe NHL player?? Nothing u say has credibility after that!!


A PPG in the Q isn't impressive. By far the easiest league to score in. He's a 3rd round pick which historically results in ~20% chance of playing 100 games in the NHL. Everyone has "potential" sure. Thats easy to say. I have the potential to win the lottery too. Both are facts.

Also claiming he's top 150 prospect doesn't mean jack. You could have just pretended top 100, but even you knew top 100 was too far a stretch.
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Dec. 7, 2020 at 11:28 p.m.
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Lol. McCann has had back to back 35 point seasons?? 19 goals and 35 in 18-19 and 16 goals and 35 points last year?? And he’s only 24 years old, played in the NHL since he was 19 years. I bet every team wishes the 22nd overall pick wins a roster spot at 19 years old and doesn’t look back. He’ll score 20 plus goals this year. I can’t even read anything you wrote after that comment.


He'll score 20+ goals this (Shortened) season on the 3rd line with Strome? Sure thing.
Dec. 7, 2020 at 11:29 p.m.
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A PPG in the Q isn't impressive. By far the easiest league to score in. He's a 3rd round pick which historically results in ~20% chance of playing 100 games in the NHL. Everyone has "potential" sure. Thats easy to say. I have the potential to win the lottery too. Both are facts.

Also claiming he's top 150 prospect doesn't mean jack. You could have just pretended top 100, but even you knew top 100 was too far a stretch.


He was the 34th rated player in his draft class. The Pens were taking him or Poulin in the 1st round. When Legare fell past the 2nd. The Pens traded up at the beginning of the 3rd to get him. Again, u have no clue who he is. Nice try though!!

https://cityofchampionssports.com/2019/09/20/is-legare-making-case-nhl-time/
Dec. 7, 2020 at 11:33 p.m.
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He'll score 20+ goals this (Shortened) season on the 3rd line with Strome? Sure thing.



He had 35 points in back to back seasons. 19 goals in 18-19. 16 last year and played Center where he doesn’t belong. We were just weak there and needed a player there. He has a great shot. He’s playing LW this year and not being jumped around from a top 6 LW, to a 3C, to a 3rd line LW. He’s staying on the LW where he belongs(says the GM atleast, we’ll See what Sully decides). Like young players need. Again he’s only 24 years old, back to back 35 point seasons. Played in the NHL since he was 19 years old. Young players need routine and consistency, like most athletes. Being jumped around, where ever we needed him and were weak wasn’t good for him. Usually only veterans are good at that utility type player. Not young players that need that consistency. Like he’ll have this year.
Dec. 7, 2020 at 11:40 p.m.
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He was the 34th rated player in his draft class. The Pens were taking him or Poulin in the 1st round. When Legare fell past the 2nd. The Pens traded up at the beginning of the 3rd to get him. Again, u have no clue who he is. Nice try though!!


What rating had him 34th?!?!?!?! He was drafted 74th...period. Stop drinking the cool aid. You're literally suggesting that since PIT was the team that drafted him...he might have even been picked in the 1st round. It's mind blowing that you think PIT was considering him in the 1st, but EVERY other team had at least 1 chance to grab the supposed 1st round talent and literally zero of them did.
Dec. 7, 2020 at 11:44 p.m.
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What rating had him 34th?!?!?!?! He was drafted 74th...period. Stop drinking the cool aid. You're literally suggesting that since PIT was the team that drafted him...he might have even been picked in the 1st round. It's mind blowing that you think PIT was considering him in the 1st, but EVERY other team had at least 1 chance to grab the supposed 1st round talent and literally zero of them did.


Again, sorry you have no clue who he is. Nice of you to tell me about a prospect I’ve been reading about since he was drafted. Good job!! Wrong again!! Lol.

https://thehockeywriters.com/nathan-legare-2019-nhl-draft-prospect-profile/

Lol.. sorry some had him 33rd..lol..

https://cityofchampionssports.com/2019/09/20/is-legare-making-case-nhl-time/

3 goals in 2 pre season games last year..lol.. 6’0, 205.. NHL ready at 18-19.

Again, sorry you have no clue who he is..nice try though, telling me about a prospect in my team’s system..lol..
Dec. 7, 2020 at 11:47 p.m.
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Quoting: PGHBOB69
He had 35 points in back to back seasons. 19 goals in 18-19. 16 last year and played Center where he doesn’t belong. We were just weak there and needed a player there. He has a great shot. He’s playing LW this year and not being jumped around from a top 6 LW, to a 3C, to a 3rd line LW. He’s staying on the LW where he belongs(says the GM atleast, we’ll See what Sully decides). Like young players need. Again he’s only 24 years old, back to back 35 point seasons. Played in the NHL since he was 19 years old. Young players need routine and consistency, like most athletes. Being jumped around, where ever we needed him and were weak wasn’t good for him. Usually only veterans are good at that utility type player. Not young players that need that consistency. Like he’ll have this year.


Would you trade the package you're offering for Strome to get McCann? Strome is only 23 and he had a 50+ point season. Would you accept the same trade if it was for McCann?
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Dec. 7, 2020 at 11:49 p.m.
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Again, sorry you have no clue who he is. Nice of you to tell me about a prospect I’ve been reading about since he was drafted. Good job!! Wrong again!! Lol.

https://thehockeywriters.com/nathan-legare-2019-nhl-draft-prospect-profile/

Lol.. sorry some had him 33rd..lol..


LOL and some had him 83rd! Keep drinking the cool aid. LOL!

https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/296698/nathan-legare
Dec. 7, 2020 at 11:53 p.m.
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Would you trade the package you're offering for Strome to get McCann? Strome is only 23 and he had a 50+ point season. Would you accept the same trade if it was for McCann?


If we were rebuilding yes!! No, not while we are in win now mode. What is a 2nd round pick gonna do for us.? It has value to Chicago though. And Legare is a good prospect. I proved everything you guys said wrong. You’re trying to tell me about the Pens players and prospects I read every article on just like you are telling me things I don’t know about Strome. I Just have cursory knowledge about him. Like you have cursory knowledge about McCann and Legare but seem to want to tell me about them. You can’t tell everything about a player by looking at a stat sheet. You were even looking at McCann’s stat sheet wrong. Thinking 2018-19 was 2 separate seasons. When it is one season split b/ween 2 teams.
Dec. 7, 2020 at 11:54 p.m.
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LOL and some had him 83rd! Keep drinking the cool aid. LOL!

https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/296698/nathan-legare



Lol.. Again, which rankings has him 34..?? 2 or 3 I gave u. And one had him 33rd..nice try..u keep changing the line..early 2nd to late 2nd round pick..keep telling me about a prospect in my team’s system. Smart of u!! Pens traded up to get him in the 3rd once he fell. Were thinking of drafting him in the 1st. Him or Poulin. Ya, I read those articles years ago.

https://cityofchampionssports.com/2019/09/20/is-legare-making-case-nhl-time/

3 goals in 2 pre season games last year..lol.. 6’0, 205.. NHL ready at 18-19 years old..lol.. nice try.. keep changing the line on your arguments. U look like the idiot!!
Dec. 8, 2020 at 12:55 a.m.
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Chicago says no.

You aren't getting a 23 year old 2C that's been a .77ppg the last 2 seasons with the Hawks for a guy that may never make the NHL fulltime and a 2nd round pick.

Strome would easily require a 1st and Legare as Legare is not even a top 100 prospect let alone a top 150 prospect.

Put this another way; Strome is easily a more valuable asset then Kapanen and it's not really close and look what was given up for him?

Hawks decline.
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Dec. 8, 2020 at 12:57 a.m.
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Chicago says no.

You aren't getting a 23 year old 2C that's been a .77ppg the last 2 seasons with the Hawks for a guy that may never make the NHL fulltime and a 2nd round pick.

Strome would easily require a 1st and Legare as Legare is not even a top 100 prospect let alone a top 150 prospect.

Put this another way; Strome is easily a more valuable asset then Kapanen and it's not really close and look what was given up for him?

Hawks decline.


His RFA rights too. You haven’t signed him yet. Again, you guys have no clue who Legare is. I’m not doing this again, read the thread if u care. I didn’t know D.Strome was that highly thought of.sorry wasn’t aware. I thought he was an underperforming prospect that turned his career around but still wasn’t that highly thought of. That’s the narrative I’ve heard more than what u guys are saying. But ok, I’m sure U know more about him than me..good luck with him!!
Dec. 8, 2020 at 1:00 a.m.
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His RFA rights too. You haven’t signed him yet. Again, you guys h w no clue who Legare is. I’m not doing this read the thread if u care.


I have more then a clue; in fact I promise you I know more about NHL prospects then 90% of users on here or more; I watch the prospects almost as close as the NHL. I know exactly who he is, and he's not even a top 150 prospect; most experts have him top 200.

Also, Strome is a RFA at 23 years old which means he will be bridged and an RFA again after the bridge. That gives the acquiring team a ton of flexibility and control
Dec. 8, 2020 at 1:06 a.m.
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I have more then a clue; in fact I promise you I know more about NHL prospects then 90% of users on here or more; I watch the prospects almost as close as the NHL. I know exactly who he is, and he's not even a top 150 prospect; most experts have him top 200.

Also, Strome is a RFA at 23 years old which means he will be bridged and an RFA again after the bridge. That gives the acquiring team a ton of flexibility and control


Cool, then if u care. U can read the thread and the articles I linked and learn more about him. I didn’t know D.Strome was that highly thought of..Sorry, wasn’t aware. I thought he was an underperforming prospect that turned his career around but still wasn’t that highly thought of. That’s the narrative I’ve heard more than what u guys are saying. But ok, I’m sure U know more about him than me..good luck with him!!
Dec. 8, 2020 at 1:16 a.m.
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Cool, then if u care. U can read the thread and the articles I linked and learn more about him. I didn’t know D.Strome was that highly thought of..Sorry, wasn’t aware. I thought he was an underperforming prospect that turned his career around but still wasn’t that highly thought of. That’s the narrative I’ve heard more than what u guys are saying. But ok, I’m sure U know more about him than me..good luck with him!!


How many 23 year old RFAs in the NHL that will cost under $3.5M on a bridge can you name that are a 2C and put .77ppg in the last two seasons? Please, be my guest. Again, what did the Pens pay for Kap? LMAO

Anyway guy, I'm well aware of who Legare is and linking a article from a Pens beat writer who's optimistic about his ceiling isn't exactly objective facts. He's a top 200 prospect. He does have a 2C ceiling but could also be a bust and never turn into a fulltime NHL player. Again, Hawks easily pass...throw in the 2022 1st if the Pens want a response even from the Hawks.
 
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