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pacioretty trade

Created by: JJtrain
Team: 2020-21 Vegas Golden Knights
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 9, 2020
Published: Dec. 9, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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the sabres right now need LHD (the only two are R.Dahlin and J.McCabe), more forward depth, and a starting goalie. on the other hand vegas needs to cut cap and they need to get a #2 center (currently its between C.Glass or C.Stephenson). so in fairness without retaining salary this would be a pretty nice package in return.
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2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$77,040,772$285,772$932,500$4,459,228
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
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UFA - 4
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$5,900,000$5,900,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 7
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$1,625,000$1,625,000
C
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UFA - 1
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LW
UFA - 4
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,200,000$5,200,000
LD/RD
UFA - 5
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$8,800,000$8,800,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 7
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
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UFA - 5
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$791,667$791,667 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$725,000$725,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
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UFA - 1

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Dec. 9, 2020 at 5:59 p.m.
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You know nothing JS
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In reality, Fleury and Pac modified NTC would make that deal fail.

In my head, I can't put Pacciorety and Skinner in the same sentence. Oups, I just did *shivers*

On paper, It kind of work... I like the originality and the fact it adresses needs for both teams while respecting the cap. IMO BUF would need to add value but nice job!

CF needs more of those kind of ideas!
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Dec. 9, 2020 at 6:02 p.m.
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Quoting: jpsnow13
In reality, Fleury and Pac modified NTC would make that deal fail.

In my head, I can't put Pacciorety and Skinner in the same sentence. Oups, I just did *shivers*

On paper, It kind of work... I like the originality and the fact it adresses needs for both teams while respecting the cap. IMO BUF would need to add value but nice job!

CF needs more of those kind of ideas!


Buffalo easily declines. Skinner had really bad puck luck last year playing with bad players, Ullmark was better than Fleury, and this move would result in buffalo having the worst center depth in the league again.
Dec. 9, 2020 at 6:20 p.m.
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You know nothing JS
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Buffalo easily declines. Skinner had really bad puck luck last year playing with bad players, Ullmark was better than Fleury, and this move would result in buffalo having the worst center depth in the league again.


Here's the Buffalo fans coming with wild overevaluation of their players 🙄
Dec. 9, 2020 at 6:41 p.m.
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Here's the Buffalo fans coming with wild overevaluation of their players 🙄

Jeff skinner played with Sheary, Sobotka, Johansson, Vesey simmonds, Frolik, And Lazar. He played a full game with Eichel the last game of the season. Stats show that Ullmark was better than Fleury last year, and I’m right about the center depth Cody Eakin would be the 2c.
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Dec. 10, 2020 at 8:08 a.m.
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no
Dec. 10, 2020 at 11:19 a.m.
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Quoting: jpsnow13
Here's the Buffalo fans coming with wild overevaluation of their players 🙄
Quoting: Sabres923
Jeff skinner played with Sheary, Sobotka, Johansson, Vesey simmonds, Frolik, And Lazar. He played a full game with Eichel the last game of the season. Stats show that Ullmark was better than Fleury last year, and I’m right about the center depth Cody Eakin would be the 2c.
Quoting: kclar

@dzmets

Skinner, Jeff $9,000,000 >= Pacioretty, Max $7,000,000
Hutton, Carter $2,750,000 < Fleury, Marc-André $7,000,000
Staal, Eric $3,500,000 > Martinez, Alec $4,000,000
$15,250,000 << $18,000,000

Pacioretty is very good and with Jack may also get his 40 goals.
So that part works IMO
I may want Fleury as I understand he is a VERY GOOD locker room guy.
His salary scares the heck out of me.
HIs $7,000,000 and Okposo's $6,000,000 for a back up GK and 4th line player for the next two years is a problem.
Martinez solves Buffalo's problem at LHD but brings a hole at #2 C
I would live with Montour (5 goals,18pts and +13; 2nd 3rd and 1st among the defensemen) playing the off side and keep Staal.

Over all the value is close but Buffalo definitely would NOT be adding to the trade.
IMO Vegas is getting the better players and shedding nearly $3,000,000 of cap space.

This is an easy no from Buffalo.
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Dec. 11, 2020 at 6:13 p.m.
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
@dzmets

Skinner, Jeff $9,000,000 >= Pacioretty, Max $7,000,000
Hutton, Carter $2,750,000 < Fleury, Marc-André $7,000,000
Staal, Eric $3,500,000 > Martinez, Alec $4,000,000
$15,250,000 << $18,000,000

Pacioretty is very good and with Jack may also get his 40 goals.
So that part works IMO
I may want Fleury as I understand he is a VERY GOOD locker room guy.
His salary scares the heck out of me.
HIs $7,000,000 and Okposo's $6,000,000 for a back up GK and 4th line player for the next two years is a problem.
Martinez solves Buffalo's problem at LHD but brings a hole at #2 C
I would live with Montour (5 goals,18pts and +13; 2nd 3rd and 1st among the defensemen) playing the off side and keep Staal.

Over all the value is close but Buffalo definitely would NOT be adding to the trade.
IMO Vegas is getting the better players and shedding nearly $3,000,000 of cap space.

This is an easy no from Buffalo.


Agreed
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