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How much to keep

Created by: dpdan
Team: 2021-22 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 12, 2020
Published: Dec. 12, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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With another flat cap year, I think that guys like Tatar will be available for short money/term deals. Krecji and Rask finish out their careers in Boston.
This is also assuming Murray shows that he can stay healthy and doesn’t resign in NJ, if either happen then Bs look for another LD to sign/trade for.

Thoughts on term/$ for RFAs?
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$5,000,000
2$950,000
1$850,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$7,000,000
1$4,000,000
4$5,250,000
1$1,000,000
2$4,750,000
Trades
1.
BOS
    Seattle expansion
    2.
    BOS
    1. 2021 5th round pick (BUF)
    NJD
    1. Moore, John
    2. 2021 2nd round pick (BOS)
    Additional Details:
    Retain $1000000
    3.
    BOS
    1. 2021 2nd round pick (SJS)
    OTT
    1. Kase, Ondrej [RFA Rights]
    Additional Details:
    If Kase stays healthy then I think that they resign him, if not I think that they move on. Ottawa might take a flier.
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2021
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    2022
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    2023
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$76,649,008$1,956,507$557,500$4,850,992
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $6,125,000$6,125,000
    LW
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $6,875,000$6,875,000
    C
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $6,666,667$6,666,667
    RW
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $3,675,000$3,675,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $5,250,000$5,250,000
    C, RW
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $3,100,000$3,100,000
    RW
    UFA - 2
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $4,750,000$4,750,000
    C
    UFA
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $769,167$769,167 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
    RW, C
    RFA - 1
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $950,000$950,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $1,350,000$1,350,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $850,000$850,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    $5,250,000$5,250,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $4,900,000$4,900,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $7,000,000$7,000,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $3,687,500$3,687,500
    LD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $750,000$750,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
    LD/RD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $850,000$850,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1

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    Dec. 12, 2020 at 9:12 a.m.
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    What is that Murray contract?
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    Dec. 12, 2020 at 10:07 a.m.
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    Do you know who Ryan Murray is?
    Dec. 12, 2020 at 12:56 p.m.
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    Quoting: Bcarlo25
    Do you know who Ryan Murray is?


    I know that when he’s healthy, he’s a top pair LD (which is why I mentioned his health in the scrip)
    Dec. 12, 2020 at 1:01 p.m.
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    Quoting: dpdan
    I know that when he’s healthy, he’s a top pair LD (which is why I mentioned his health in the scrip)


    Noooo he is not. He’s never been that.
    Dec. 12, 2020 at 2:04 p.m.
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    Noooo he is not. He’s never been that.



    I go by what The Athletic has him ranked as. At 5 on 5 he ranks ahead of Shea Theadore for GAR since 2017. I don’t even know what that means, but NHL front offices and pro hockey writers do. I’m not pencilling him in for a Norris or anything, but his 2 way play and zone exits are top pair comparable. Again allllll of this depends on him staying on the ice, but when healthy, he grades out at as a top 50 D. If someone has numbers that show otherwise I am open to changing my mind.
    Dec. 12, 2020 at 2:31 p.m.
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    Quoting: dpdan
    I go by what The Athletic has him ranked as. At 5 on 5 he ranks ahead of Shea Theadore for GAR since 2017. I don’t even know what that means, but NHL front offices and pro hockey writers do. I’m not pencilling him in for a Norris or anything, but his 2 way play and zone exits are top pair comparable. Again allllll of this depends on him staying on the ice, but when healthy, he grades out at as a top 50 D. If someone has numbers that show otherwise I am open to changing my mind.


    This post is a very good example of how destructive the fancy stats can be.

    Watch a damn hockey game. No, Murray isn’t better than Shea Theodore...are you kidding me? Do you think columbus just decided to trade a first pair d man for a 5th round pick?

    So to answer my original question, no. You do not know who he is. He’s not a first pair guy. He’s not worth half of what you gave him. This is junk.
    Dec. 12, 2020 at 4:07 p.m.
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    "If Kase stays healthy then I think that they resign him, if not I think that they move on. Ottawa might take a flier."

    This is not strong logic. Basically what you're saying is, if Kase plays, we'll keep him, if he's not going to play, Ottawa would be stupid enough to give a 2nd for him.

    BTW, If Kase is healthy, he isn't worth a 2nd.
    Dec. 12, 2020 at 4:08 p.m.
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    Quoting: Bcarlo25
    This post is a very good example of how destructive the fancy stats can be.

    Watch a damn hockey game. No, Murray isn’t better than Shea Theodore...are you kidding me? Do you think columbus just decided to trade a first pair d man for a 5th round pick?

    So to answer my original question, no. You do not know who he is. He’s not a first pair guy. He’s not worth half of what you gave him. This is junk.


    I agree that he’s not better than Theadore, especially since Theadore seems to have made a big leap this past year. We can debate the merits of “fancy stats” and I’m sure that you could find one that ranks Murray lower. I just used what I could find.

    I live in New England so I get to see Murray play the two or three times Columbus plays vs the Bruins if that. So when I want to discuss a player or include him in an ACGM team I have to look him up on the interwebs. So, again, if you have numbers that show that Murray shouldn’t be where I have him I’m willing to change my mind.

    And if not Murray or someone of his ilk, where do the Bs go for LD?
    Dec. 12, 2020 at 4:37 p.m.
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    I agree that he’s not better than Theadore, especially since Theadore seems to have made a big leap this past year. We can debate the merits of “fancy stats” and I’m sure that you could find one that ranks Murray lower. I just used what I could find.

    I live in New England so I get to see Murray play the two or three times Columbus plays vs the Bruins if that. So when I want to discuss a player or include him in an ACGM team I have to look him up on the interwebs. So, again, if you have numbers that show that Murray shouldn’t be where I have him I’m willing to change my mind.

    And if not Murray or someone of his ilk, where do the Bs go for LD?


    Few things here.
    1. No, I’m not going to find a stat that ranks Murray lower, because i think those stats are stupid.
    2. If you don’t get to see a guy play much, before you toss him a big contract and a top pair assignment, see if he’s been traded for a 5th round pick in the last few weeks? If so, maybe stop and find someone else.
    3. Murray’s, “ilk,” is overpaid 3rd pair guy. I might be being a smidge overly critical here, as maybe he could find a shut down pair role with Carlo, but based on the context you’re using, Murray is trash.
    4. The Bs go to internal options. Vaakanainen, Zboril, Lauzon etc. if they don’t work out, they’ll go get someone who’s better than Ryan Murray.
    Dec. 12, 2020 at 4:57 p.m.
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    Quoting: Bcarlo25
    Few things here.
    1. No, I’m not going to find a stat that ranks Murray lower, because i think those stats are stupid.
    2. If you don’t get to see a guy play much, before you toss him a big contract and a top pair assignment, see if he’s been traded for a 5th round pick in the last few weeks? If so, maybe stop and find someone else.
    3. Murray’s, “ilk,” is overpaid 3rd pair guy. I might be being a smidge overly critical here, as maybe he could find a shut down pair role with Carlo, but based on the context you’re using, Murray is trash.
    4. The Bs go to internal options. Vaakanainen, Zboril, Lauzon etc. if they don’t work out, they’ll go get someone who’s better than Ryan Murray.


    Fair enough
     
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