A different Tampa trade scenario

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Created by: MCfubar

Team: 2020-21 Detroit Red Wings

Initial Creation Date: Dec. 13, 2020

Published: Dec. 13, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Tampa is between a rock and a hard place, and there are only a few teams with the capability to take on salary. There have been many rumors floating around with potential trade scenarios between Tampa and Detroit. The latest has Tampa taking on Henrik Zetterberg's contract in exchange for the Wings taking Tyler Johnson with what appears to be an insignificant "sweetener". Its going to cost Tampa more than a "sweetener", since Detroit doesn't need to shed any salary.

Tampa really wants to sign RFAs Cirelli and Cernak, but there is no way this will happen without significant cap relief. Tampa also doesn't want to trade a 1st round pick in any scenario. Brayden Point and Ondrej Palat will also need a new contracts in two years, and those contracts are going to be huge. Tampa could be in the same situation with needing to shed salary again in two years. Something has to give!

Trades

DET

Alnefelt, Hugo [Reserve List]
Johnson, Tyler
Raddysh, Taylor
2022 1st round pick (TBL)

Additional Details:

Yzerman stands firm and forces JBB's hand.

TBL

Additional Details:

Tampa is now able to sign Cirelli and Cernak, as well as keeping Kilorn for another run at the cup in 2021.

Buyouts

Justin Abdelkader: $1,805,556
Stephen Weiss: $1,666,667

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$65,404,681	$0	$1,007,500	$16,095,319

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Bertuzzi, Tyler $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Larkin, Dylan $6,100,000$6,100,000 C UFA - 3	Mantha, Anthony $2,850,000$2,850,000 LW, RW UFA - 4
Zadina, Filip $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 2	Namestnikov, Vladislav $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW, C UFA - 2	Ryan, Bobby $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
	Fabbri, Robby $2,950,000$2,950,000 LW UFA - 2	Johnson, Tyler $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, C, LW NTC UFA - 4
Svechnikov, Evgeny $874,125$874,125 LW, RW UFA - 1	Gagner, Sam $850,000$850,000 RW, C UFA - 1	Glendening, Luke $1,800,000$1,800,000 C, RW, LW UFA - 1
Helm, Darren $3,850,000$3,850,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1	Filppula, Valtteri $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
Nielsen, Frans $5,250,000$5,250,000 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
DeKeyser, Danny $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Hronek, Filip $714,166$714,166 ($157,500$158K) RD RFA - 1	Greiss, Thomas $3,600,000$3,600,000 G UFA - 2
Nemeth, Patrik $1,500,000$1,500,000 LD UFA - 1	Stecher, Troy $1,700,000$1,700,000 RD UFA - 2	Bernier, Jonathan $3,000,000$3,000,000 G UFA - 1
Merrill, Jon $925,000$925,000 LD UFA - 1	Biega, Alex $875,000$875,000 RD UFA - 1
Staal, Marc $5,700,000$5,700,000 LD NMC UFA - 1

Dec. 13, 2020 at 12:01 p.m.

palhal

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Tampa still has to shed salary. You have to know that Zetterberg if he on LTIR is absolutely meaningless in any trade.

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 12:09 p.m.

A_Habs_fan

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Quoting: palhal

Tampa still has to shed salary. You have to know that Zetterberg if he on LTIR is absolutely meaningless in any trade.

Technically having an LTIR contract gives you more cap space

Dec. 13, 2020 at 12:21 p.m.

palhal

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Quoting: A_Habs_fan

Technically having an LTIR contract gives you more cap space

No it doesn't in this scenario. Really this trading of players who are going be on LTIR all season is absolute nonsense....doesn't help the cap situation at all (in this case Tampa)

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 12:30 p.m.

Letter_Kenny

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Malcontent Ru Pal's posts are absolute nonsense. Keep repeating yourself. Caw caw... keep repeating yourself...caw caw...

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 1:53 p.m.

Jim_Benning_Almost

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Quoting: A_Habs_fan

Technically having an LTIR contract gives you more cap space

Why do I keep reading this from ACGMs? Having LTIR does NOT increase the salary cap for a team!!

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 1:58 p.m.

BStinson

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Quoting: A_Habs_fan

Technically having an LTIR contract gives you more cap space

Here’s a visual aid I made for this exact scenario, LTIR doesn’t grant “additional” cap space.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2132383

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 2:02 p.m.

CoopsTroops

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LTIR is the new insanely low offer sheet for ACGMs. LTIR is confusing for people new to the concept, I know I was, but it does absolutely nothing for a team trying to generate cap space by trading for the player.

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 2:05 p.m.

CoopsTroops

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Quoting: A_Habs_fan

Technically having an LTIR contract gives you more cap space

So, if the Lightning signed everyone and was at a $87 million cap hit, they could put Stamkos on LTIR and be cap compliant with an allowance to exceed the cap by a certain amount. They couldn't take on another contract to generate cap space as that contract would also count against the cap.

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 2:43 p.m.

palhal

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Quoting: Letter_Kenny

Malcontent Ru Pal's posts are absolute nonsense. Keep repeating yourself. Caw caw... keep repeating yourself...caw caw...

You should know Stupid Rule Kenny, that this website is CapFriendly, not the CapMeansNothing.

Dec. 13, 2020 at 4:15 p.m.

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aedoran

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Quoting: Jim_Benning_Almost

Why do I keep reading this from ACGMs? Having LTIR does NOT increase the salary cap for a team!!

That avatar is awesome!

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