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Created by: AnalyticsGeek

Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Dec. 13, 2020

Published: Dec. 13, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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I can see the argument on how it is not a good idea to give up all these assets for rentals, but I feel this is the last chance the Leafs have to contend with this core. If they disappoint again, they are going to have a major shakeup anyway so might as well go all in and build as strong of a team as possible.

Guys on LTIR are my taxi squad players.

Trades

TOR

Oleksiak, Jamie

DAL

Holl, Justin
2021 2nd round pick (TOR)

TOR

Foligno, Marcus ($1,400,000 retained)

MIN

Der-Arguchintsev, Semyon
2022 2nd round pick (TOR)

Buyouts

Mikhail Grabovski: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)

Buried

Pierre Engvall: $175,000 ($1,250,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$81,453,075	$0	$0	$46,925

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Foligno, Marcus $1,475,000$1,475,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C UFA - 4	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 4
Hyman, Zach $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 5	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW UFA - 5
Vesey, Jimmy $900,000$900,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 3	Mikheyev, Ilya $1,645,000$1,645,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Robertson, Nicholas $821,667$821,667 LW, RW RFA - 4	Thornton, Joe $700,000$700,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 1	Spezza, Jason $700,000$700,000 C, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD NMC UFA - 4	Brodie, TJ $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD NMC UFA - 4	Andersen, Frederik $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 1
Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Oleksiak, Jamie $2,137,500$2,137,500 LD/RD UFA - 1	Campbell, Jack $1,650,000$1,650,000 G UFA - 2
	Dermott, Travis $874,125$874,125 LD/RD UFA - 1
Sandin, Rasmus $894,167$894,167 LD UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Boyd, Travis $700,000$700,000 C, RW UFA - 1		Simmonds, Wayne $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW NTC UFA - 1
Marincin, Martin $700,000$700,000 LD UFA - 1		Barabanov, Alexander $925,000$925,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
		Lehtonen, Mikko $925,000$925,000 LD UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Nylander, W.		Tavares, J.		Matthews, A.
	Marner, M.		Rielly, M.

Power Play 2
Spezza, J.		Kerfoot, A.		Robertson, N.
	Sandin, R.		Thornton, J.

Penalty Kill 1
		Vesey, J.
	Muzzin, J.	Brodie, T.

Penalty Kill 2
	Mikheyev, I.	Hyman, Z.
	Oleksiak, J.	Dermott, T.

Dec. 13, 2020 at 4:54 p.m.

AnalyticsGeek

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Do you guys think my armchair team can win the cup?

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 4:57 p.m.

yikes

EklundCelebriniSmith

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I didn’t realize how good statistically Marcus https://public.tableau.com/shared/KQNXJ4TDR?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link

Dec. 13, 2020 at 4:59 p.m.

Hidalgo

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I think the current team is just as good

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 4:59 p.m.

OldNYIfan

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Oh, that's too much for Foligno, even with the retention.

Patience is a virtue. So far, Holl hasn't shown to be so bad* that Toronto has to pay to upgrade there.

* meaning we haven't even played any games this season yet.

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 5:00 p.m.

Swedenheim

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Why do I keep getting mentioned in these threads?

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 5:00 p.m.

Oodz

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On paper the team looks great, but the again it’s the Leafs were talking about lol

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 5:04 p.m.

TheFlamingC

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If I were the Dallas GM I'd personally fly to Toronto to slap Kyle Dubas

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 5:16 p.m.

jnowariak

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Quoting: yikes

I didn’t realize how good statistically Marcus https://public.tableau.com/shared/KQNXJ4TDR?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link

He’s a 4th liner but he’s fantastic in that role, not to mention his leadership. This is why MIN fans really value him and one of the reasons I think the Wild could surprise people in 2021-2022. (I’m fully writing next year off)

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 5:16 p.m.

MisstheWhalers

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Anything will be possible this season, ridiculous to trade a 1st for Foligno.. Lol

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 5:19 p.m.

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OldNYIfan

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Quoting: Swedenheim

Why do I keep getting mentioned in these threads?

We're ALL on the permanent-floating-crap-game mailing list.

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 5:20 p.m.

#11

yikes

EklundCelebriniSmith

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Quoting: jnowariak

Quoting: MisstheWhalers

Anything will be possible this season, ridiculous to trade a 1st for Foligno.. Lol

Not worth a first but still that’s a very useful depth player - shouldn’t be on the top line but he’s definitely a valued player

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 5:23 p.m.

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ConnorMcHellebucyk

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

Anything will be possible this season, ridiculous to trade a 1st for Foligno.. Lol

Quoting: yikes

Not worth a first but still that’s a very useful depth player - shouldn’t be on the top line but he’s definitely a valued player

Goodrow fetched a first. Foligno is better imo. Certainly possible

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 5:28 p.m.

#13

JaredOfLondon

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Too much for foligno and oleksiak isnt even bettet than holl

Dec. 13, 2020 at 5:28 p.m.

#14

jnowariak

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Quoting: ConnorMcHellebucyk

Goodrow fetched a first. Foligno is better imo. Certainly possible

This is the perfect trade comparison IMO. I also believe MIN means to resign him so it’s going to take a good return for them to part with him.

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 5:29 p.m.

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jnowariak

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Quoting: yikes

Not worth a first but still that’s a very useful depth player - shouldn’t be on the top line but he’s definitely a valued player

I think it’s fair logic but I’d say it’s not unreasonable.

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 5:29 p.m.

#16

yikes

EklundCelebriniSmith

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Quoting: ConnorMcHellebucyk

Goodrow fetched a first. Foligno is better imo. Certainly possible

Goodrow was also traded to Tampa. And Goodrow was also a UFA with 2 years at ELC price. Tampa wanted to get Goodrow who’s similar to Folingo and Coleman and so they paid

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 5:30 p.m.

#17

yikes

EklundCelebriniSmith

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Quoting: jnowariak

I think it’s fair logic but I’d say it’s not unreasonable.

Quoting: jnowariak

This is the perfect trade comparison IMO. I also believe MIN means to resign him so it’s going to take a good return for them to part with him.

Quoting: JaredOfLondon

Too much for foligno and oleksiak isnt even bettet than holl

He’s worth a 2nd imo but yes a first isn’t impossible

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 5:30 p.m.

#18

JaredOfLondon

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Quoting: ConnorMcHellebucyk

Goodrow fetched a first. Foligno is better imo. Certainly possible

Goodrow is significantly cheaper even with retention and had an extra year

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 5:30 p.m.

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AnalyticsGeek

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Quoting: yikes

I didn’t realize how good statistically Marcus https://public.tableau.com/shared/KQNXJ4TDR?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link

Quoting: jnowariak

Quoting: ConnorMcHellebucyk

Goodrow fetched a first. Foligno is better imo. Certainly possible

Yeah Foligno’s a beast. I definitely think he could fetch a first.

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 5:33 p.m.

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AnalyticsGeek

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

Quoting: JaredOfLondon

Too much for foligno and oleksiak isnt even bettet than holl

Thanks for the feedback. I think Holl’s a solid 4D but Oleksiak has some of the top defensive results in the league so i couldn’t resist.

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 5:33 p.m.

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AnalyticsGeek

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Quoting: Oodz

On paper the team looks great, but the again it’s the Leafs were talking about lol

Yeah I agree, the Leafs always find a way to disappoint.

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 5:35 p.m.

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AnalyticsGeek

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Quoting: Swedenheim

Why do I keep getting mentioned in these threads?

I see you’re on CapFriendly a lot so I just want to hear your opinion on my teams.

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 5:51 p.m.

#23

AndrewLadd

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Depending on how Lehtonen does the current leafs could be better

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 6:05 p.m.

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Faulk_my_Dzingel

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A lot of the analytics for defensemen we all keep pulling out are highly dependent on one thing, do your forwards fulfil their defensive assignments? If not, I don’t care if you have Hedman paired with Petro back there with Gibson in net, you will not win.

Is Oleksiak an upgrade from Holl with the same forwards on the ice? I don’t know.

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 6:18 p.m.

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Quoting: faulkmydzingel

You are right man. But honestly, I think all the forwards on my team are pretty defensively responsible except Marner, Nylander & Robertson.

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