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Team: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 13, 2020
Published: Dec. 13, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$4,000,000
2$2,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$2,500,000
Trades
1.
TBL
  1. Stecher, Troy
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (NYR)
  3. 2021 3rd round pick (DET)
DET
  1. Coburn, Braydon
  2. Stamkos, Steven
Additional Details:
Waive Stamkos with the understanding DET will claim, (Avoid NMC)
2.
TBL
  1. 2021 2nd round pick (NSH)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$81,471,757$0$500,000$28,243
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
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NTC
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
C, RW
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RW
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UFA - 7
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$5,166,666$5,166,666
C, LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 5
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
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NTC
UFA - 4
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$925,000$925,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
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UFA - 1
$2,500,000$2,500,000
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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$833,333$833,333
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RFA - 1
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$737,500$737,500
C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
G
UFA - 8
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 6
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
G
UFA - 1
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$4,800,000$4,800,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$800,000$800,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RD
RFA - 1

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Dec. 13, 2020 at 7:06 p.m.
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Buffbry
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Wings pass, not trading stecher and not helping tampa with any aging player unless they pay us to take them.
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Dec. 13, 2020 at 7:09 p.m.
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Can you waive an nmc?
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Dec. 13, 2020 at 7:13 p.m.
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I'd do it if Stammer is fully healthy. Wings could retain a good portion and get a substantial return
Dec. 13, 2020 at 7:15 p.m.
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Let's imagine you can waive a NMC, then Wings have no motivation to give up Stecher and the two picks. or take Coburn.
Dec. 13, 2020 at 7:16 p.m.
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You can’t waive Stamkos on an NMC anyway, and this is the type of move that really loses the faith of the room and hurts negotiations down the line. This doesn’t help Detroit either. Stamkos doesn’t make them a playoff team, but he does lower their draft position. By the time Detroit can build a good group around Stamkos, he’ll probably be too old to really contribute. This is absolutely a lose-lose trade.
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Dec. 13, 2020 at 7:20 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Let's imagine you can waive a NMC, then Wings have no motivation to give up Stecher and the two picks. or take Coburn.


The trade would be completed first and would include “future considerations”. That consideration would be that we will waive Stamkos and they will pick him up. Obviously the NMC makes that impossible and anyway, I wouldn’t see Detroit as a good fit. But Stamkos is still a top 20 center in this League and it’s not often one of those becomes available.
Dec. 13, 2020 at 7:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Theozler
Can you waive an nmc?


Yes Stamkos can waive it but in this case there is no chance he would. With an NMC he can't be put on waivers or be sent to the minors unless he oks it.
Dec. 13, 2020 at 7:35 p.m.
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Quoting: aedoran
Yes Stamkos can waive it but in this case there is no chance he would. With an NMC he can't be put on waivers or be sent to the minors unless he oks it.


I meant as put on waivers. As I didn’t think it was possible
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Dec. 13, 2020 at 7:49 p.m.
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I meant as put on waivers. As I didn’t think it was possible


Stamkos is still very good so it isn't a big deal. Now if you look at Calgary they honored Lucic's NMC when they got him from Edmonton and no one wants anything to do with that.
Dec. 13, 2020 at 8:10 p.m.
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Quoting: Theozler
Can you waive an nmc?


Nope? Players with NMC can't be put on waivers, That's one luxury of having a NMC.
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Dec. 13, 2020 at 8:13 p.m.
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Quoting: aedoran
Yes Stamkos can waive it but in this case there is no chance he would. With an NMC he can't be put on waivers or be sent to the minors unless he oks it.


He means put him on waivers, The answer is No players with NMC can't be put on waivers.
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Dec. 13, 2020 at 11:14 p.m.
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Quoting: I_Know_Nothing_About_Hockey_Or_Any_Sport2
You can’t waive Stamkos on an NMC anyway, and this is the type of move that really loses the faith of the room and hurts negotiations down the line. This doesn’t help Detroit either. Stamkos doesn’t make them a playoff team, but he does lower their draft position. By the time Detroit can build a good group around Stamkos, he’ll probably be too old to really contribute. This is absolutely a lose-lose trade.


Many valid points. But. I feel an underrated element is tanking teams like Detroit choosing to not bolster their roster making their situation look worse.

In 2022 for instance with Raymond, Seider, Rass, Berggren, etc. on the roster and if they tried to compete like Ottawa this year with Murray, Dado, etc.

I guess my point is being able to acquire a special player like this for so little would turn the tide in ways but they should tank until 2022 ideally for sure
 
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