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Starting Goalies in Tiers

Created by: SevenLeg
Initial Creation Date: Dec 17, 2020
Published: Dec 17, 2020 at 11:11
Team: 2020-21 Custom Team
Team Explanation
Players in the same tier are not necessarily in order

Shesterkin and Delia are excluded because of small sample.
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
13$81,500,000$117,122,498$0$682,500-$35,622,498
Left WingCenterRight Wing
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Tier 1, Tier 1
$925,000
ANA
Gibson, John
$6,400,000
G
UFA - 7
BOS
Rask, Tuukka
$7,000,000
G
UFA - 1
MTL
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
TBL
Vasilevskiy, Andrei
$9,500,000
G
UFA - 8
WPG
Hellebuyck, Connor
$6,166,666
G
UFA - 4
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Tier 2, Tier 2
$925,000
Tier 3, Tier 3
$925,000
Tier 4, Tier 4
$925,000
ARI
Kuemper, Darcy
$4,500,000
G
UFA - 2
COL
Grubauer, Philipp
$3,333,333
G
UFA - 1
BUF
Ullmark, Linus
$2,600,000
G
UFA - 1
CGY
Markström, Jacob
$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
CBJ
Merzlikins, Elvis
$4,000,000
G
UFA - 2
CAR
Reimer, James
$3,400,000
G
UFA - 1
PHI
Hart, Carter
$730,833
G
RFA - 1
DAL
Bishop, Ben
$4,916,666
G
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
DET
Bernier, Jonathan
$3,000,000
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 1
EDM
Koskinen, Mikko
$4,500,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
LAK
Quick, Jonathan
$5,800,000
G
UFA - 3
STL
Binnington, Jordan
$4,400,000
G
UFA - 1
FLA
Bobrovsky, Sergei
$10,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
MIN
Talbot, Cam
$3,666,667
G
UFA - 3
VGK
Lehner, Robin
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 5
Blackwood, Mackenzie
$925,000
SJS
Jones, Martin
$5,750,000
G
NTC
UFA - 4
NSH
Saros, Juuse
$1,500,000
G
RFA - 1
NYI
Varlamov, Semyon
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
OTT
Murray, Matt
$6,250,000
G
UFA - 4
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
$3,500,000
G
UFA - 3
VAN
Holtby, Braden
$4,300,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
WSH
Samsonov, Ilya
$925,000
G
RFA - 1

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Dec 17, 2020 at 11:12
#1
y i k e s
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Edited Dec 17, 2020 at 11:18
Shoulda made a tier for Jones on his own lol - he’s in a league of his own!



Also bob kinda high 👀👀
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Dec 17, 2020 at 11:12
#2
GM GameV4 Arizona GM
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good ranking
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Dec 17, 2020 at 11:15
#3
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Very solid and accurate. Not sure Holtby is the starter in Vancouver, Igor S from NYR should be in Tier 2. Delia in 4.
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Dec 17, 2020 at 11:17
#4
Biased Opinion
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Bishop should be higher
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Dec 17, 2020 at 11:18
#5
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Quoting: Barbs
Bishop should be higher


When he’s healthy, yup,
Dec 17, 2020 at 11:19
#6
Thread Starter
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Quoting: Barbs
Bishop should be higher


Meh. Healthy Bishop from two years ago for sure, but now, with all his injuries, he's just a shadow of his former self
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Dec 17, 2020 at 11:19
#7
Thread Starter
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I'm still looking for the Price should be lower comment ?? What's happening CapFriendly ??
Dec 17, 2020 at 11:20
#8
bhavikp27
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This one is really debatable but agreed with most.
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Dec 17, 2020 at 11:21
#9
Duck Native To Pond
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I think that Hart could be higher, probably tier 1. Also from the impression I had of bernier this year I heard he played well on a bad team, so I would put him maybe tier 3. Also for CBJ Korpisalo is the is the starter.
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Dec 17, 2020 at 11:21
#10
Joined: May 2019
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Likes: 4,064
Sleeping on Saros -- especially if this is in order. 2nd worst starter in the league?? His goalie stats were one of the best in the league after the Christmas break and he's been consistent for 4 seasons now -- easily mid-tier 3.
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Dec 17, 2020 at 11:22
#11
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sad that bob moved down two tiers in a matter of a year
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Dec 17, 2020 at 11:24
#12
Biased Opinion
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Meh. Healthy Bishop from two years ago for sure, but now, with all his injuries, he's just a shadow of his former self


Quoting: Gofnut999
When he’s healthy, yup,


Well yeah I'm going under the assumption he's healthy. If health concerns are a cause for tier demotion then you should move Price down a tier as well.
Dec 17, 2020 at 11:24
#13
Thread Starter
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Quoting: villenash
Sleeping on Saros -- especially if this is in order. 2nd worst starter in the league?? His goalie stats were one of the best in the league after the Christmas break and he's been consistent for 4 seasons now -- easily mid-tier 3.


He was backup from most of what we've seen so far from him. But yeah, I could probably put him slightly higher
Dec 17, 2020 at 11:25
#14
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Murray and Holtby both deserve to be in tier 4. Ullmark had a .915 save percentage and .930 at ES so he shouldn’t be in tier 4.
Dec 17, 2020 at 11:26
#15
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Quoting: Barbs
Well yeah I'm going under the assumption he's healthy. If health concerns are a cause for tier demotion then you should move Price down a tier as well.


Price has the ability to bounce back after injuries, Bishop's body is just falling apart & I don't think that he'll ever get back to what he was
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Dec 17, 2020 at 11:29
#16
Biased Opinion
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Price has the ability to bounce back after injuries, Bishop's body is just falling apart & I don't think that he'll ever get back to what he was


Bishop had a .920 last season which was a down year from the previous (.934). He's hardly washed at this point
Dec 17, 2020 at 11:31
#17
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Quoting: SevenLeg
He was backup from most of what we've seen so far from him. But yeah, I could probably put him slightly higher


Fair, he really only got a look at the starter's role this past season - but he looked good in that role.

You could argue similarly against Grubauer considering he's never played more than 37 games during a regular season throughout his entire career -- not really starting numbers, but he's at the top of tier 3 here. And his goalie stats are actually very similar to Saros.
Dec 17, 2020 at 11:35
#18
Jeuck75
Joined: Jul 2019
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Hart is easily 1st tier

Saros > Murray (switch the two)

I disagree with alot of this but thats just imo
Dec 17, 2020 at 11:38
#19
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Likes: 64
I think Bishop should be teir two if he ca stay healthy when he returns from injury, but Bernier should be a tier 3 IMO, he played pretty well its not is fault the team in front of him wasn't good.
Dec 17, 2020 at 11:42
#20
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I think kosk gets overlooked and is very underrated. I’d have him in the same tier as markstrom both had very comparable numbers last year.
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Dec 17, 2020 at 11:44
#21
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The disrespect for Bishop and Talbot 😢
Dec 17, 2020 at 12:10
#22
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Based on last season, I don’t think binnington is a 2nd tier goalie. He should be in the rest of the 3rd tier average starters
Dec 17, 2020 at 12:11
#23
Thread Starter
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Quoting: coga16
Based on last season, I don’t think binnington is a 2nd tier goalie. He should be in the rest of the 3rd tier average starters


He's probably a low-end 2nd tier/high-end 3rd tier, at this point there's no big difference
Dec 17, 2020 at 12:11
#24
Banned
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This is awesome.

I would switch Price with Lehner though (and not cuz im a bruins fan, just look at their recent play) and move up Bishop a bit

Oh yeah and move Binner down. He is so overrated like Murray was, and see where you have Murray now.
Dec 17, 2020 at 12:12
#25
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Quoting: SevenLeg
He's probably a low-end 2nd tier/high-end 3rd tier, at this point there's no big difference


Fair enough, semantics at this point, I can agree with he’s at the cusp level

Overall a very good fair job
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