WAYYYYYYY too much for Makar maybe 6.5 to 8.5 but that's it

Well Seattle would pick one of your dmen that isn't protected so that would clear cap

Dude has 71 points in his first 82 games played (including playoffs). If he keeps that up next season, I can't see a 7-8 year deal for anything less than Rantanen's salary.

That's Graves in this post (on LTIR for that purpose), so that is factored in.

How are the Sharks doing these days with overpriced forwards on defense? All I'm saying is points for a dman shouldn't be as important as everyone makes them out to be. COL has a really good team. If you start overpaying people...you'll become the Leafs...


***EDIT*** Oh and we know the cap isn't going up.....so how do you sign MacKinnon and then Timmons / Byram.

Anything over 9M would be extremely irresponsible. No one is saying he sucks because he is clearly awesome. 9M still marks him as the highest paid D man in the league but I certainly hope COL overpays him like TOR did with Marner. That would be great for the rest of us

Forgot about EK in SJ... what a joke

Makar isn't a forward on the back end. He's a pretty complete player. Also, he's barely 22, and this contract would be for his prime years. SJ, on the other hand, is paying Burns until age 39 and EK until 36. Not to mention Vlasic and their anchor in goal. Those are pretty drastic distinguishing features.

MacKinnon gets paid with the money from Johnson's expiring contract, and Byram/Timmins get bridge deals. Makar will get his money at some point. Unless he settles for less than he deserves or takes a step back then it will likely be in this neighborhood on a long term deal. Points get guys paid. It is what it is.

I'd be fine to put him at the same money as Rants. The point of this post is not to argue over $1M but rather explore term vs bridge. 8 years would cost at least $9M. I can't see an agent taking less if the player doesn't put his foot down and demand term and accepts those dollars.

I'm trying to say...it'll have to be a bridge or less on a longer term deal. Not because Makar is a bad player, but because we know the cap isn't going up. Makar is a really really good player.

I actually 100% agree. 3 years makes more sense to me than what it would probably take to get him for 8. I know many feel the opposite though and think the $10M would look good in a few years when the cap does rise and stars start asking for more.

3 year bridge maybe at $6-6.5M? Load up 3rd year so QO is like $8Mish. Comparing to Werenski getting $5M, McAvoy/Sergachev getting a hair under.

Makar isn't making 6.5


I don't know why people think a bridge deal works. It doesn't.
The best thing COL could do is an 8 year deal. That contract puts him till he's 31. AKA you get his prime. If he has anything left in the tank at 30 you either walk away and let someone else make the mistake of signing him to a long term deal at 30 or you do a short term deal then. The longer term deal actually works better cap wise. As you don't want to be paying him even more in 3 years.
I think the 8-10 range is possible. Depending on year two. And that's ok.

I agree with this. Why would he sign a bridge deal right?

The only reason Cale's camp might want it is to see what happens with the cap - if they think it will be up a lot in 3 years and he can make even more plus get through most of the remainder of his career at that point, they might consider it to be worth it. It's risky but you ride out the economic turbulence of the moment and try to come out on the other side in a better position. On the flip side, he has to consider the possibility of injury and maybe losing out on a long-term deal in the future. It's going to be interesting to see what he and the team choose to do.

If he puts up another pro-rated 60 puts I think you try 8x8.5-9, because if you go 3x7 and he keeps going then the cap goes up, he’s looking at a possible 11

Best case scenario is tough to flesh out in this case. You don't want to overpay and eat up more cap space than you have to, especially with all the economic uncertainty but you also don't want to piss Cale off and end up in a Rino situation. There is no way to know when the cap will go up again, the ExDraft is coming up and you also have Landy to re-sign at the same time. Personally, I have a real hard time coming down one way or the other but, if I'm Cale, I probably try to get a long-term deal for the price you list but if I can't get the money I want, I just sign the bridge and see what happens.

I would like to see him take a team friendly deal like Mack did and said he is still going to do. So he can give the team more options