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If they cant make a trade

Created by: Eddy
Initial Creation Date: Dec 22, 2020
Published: Dec 22, 2020 at 1:22
Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Team Explanation
I think the Penguins want and will make a trade or two before the season. This is my scenario where they are not able to do that.

Also taking a stab at the taxi squad in LTIR.

I think I would prefer McCann on the wing but that is why I put more defensively responsible players on his line so he can focus on being the offensive catalyst.
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Granlund, Mikael1$3,000,000
Miller, Ryan1$700,000
Buyouts
  • Jack Johnson: $1,166,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Nick Bjugstad: $2,050,000 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
PIT
PIT
PIT
WSH
ANA
2022
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
2023
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$81,281,842$0$850,000$218,158

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
PIT
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
RW
RFA - 2
PIT
Zucker, Jason
$5,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Granlund, Mikael
$3,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
PIT
Aston-Reese, Zach
$1,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
PIT
McCann, Jared
$2,940,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
PIT
Rust, Bryan
$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
PIT
Jankowski, Mark
$700,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
$750,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
$3,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
$4,100,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Letang, Kris
$7,250,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
$3,500,000
G
UFA - 3
PIT
Matheson, Michael
$4,875,000
LD
UFA - 6
PIT
Marino, John
$925,000
RD
UFA - 1
PIT
DeSmith, Casey
$1,250,000
G
UFA - 2
PIT
Pettersson, Marcus
$4,025,175
LD
UFA - 5
PIT
Ceci, Cody
$1,250,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
PIT
Sceviour, Colton
$1,200,000
RW
UFA - 1
Miller, Ryan
$700,000
G
UFA - 1
PIT
Rodrigues, Evan
$700,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
PIT
Riikola, Juuso
$1,150,000
LD
UFA - 2
PIT
Ruhwedel, Chad
$700,000
RD
UFA - 1
PIT
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
$863,333
LD
RFA - 2
PIT
O'Connor, Drew
$925,000
LW
RFA - 2
PIT
Lafferty, Sam
$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
PIT
Maniscalco, Joshua
$853,333
RD
RFA - 3
PIT
Lee, Cameron
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Guentzel, J.
Granlund, M.
Crosby, S.
Letang, K.
Malkin, E.
Power Play 2
Rust, B.
Kapanen, K.
McCann, J.
Matheson, M.
Zucker, J.
Penalty Kill 1
Blueger, T.
Aston-Reese, Z.
Pettersson, M.
Ceci, C.
Penalty Kill 2
Jankowski, M.
Tanev, B.
Dumoulin, B.
Marino, J.

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Dec 22, 2020 at 1:26
#1
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Rust shouldn't be on the 3rd line
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Dec 22, 2020 at 1:33
#2
Thank You GMJR
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Lines wrong but I would like the signing
Dec 22, 2020 at 1:35
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HadesOfSocal
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Miller either signs in Anaheim or retires.
He won’t be going cup running at this point.
Dec 22, 2020 at 3:53
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I'm just curious why you think they are going to make a trade?

I honestly think their roster is probably set. Which is a really sad situation. But it is what it is.
GMJR has all but said Jankowski is our 3C. As dumb a move as that is.
He wants someone to take faceoffs. Which is why he won't play on the wing.
The problem is he's as soft as brassard, Sheahand, Bjugstad. That just doesn't bode well for his playing a 3C which is why he got replaced by Lucic in CGY.
Dec 22, 2020 at 9:33
#5
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Line would be this then
Guentzel-Crosby-Kapanen
Zucker-Malkin-Rust
Tanev-McCann-Granlund
Jankowski-Blueger-Rodrigues

ZAR is out til mid feburary
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Dec 22, 2020 at 2:49
#6
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Rust shouldn't be on the 3rd line


Rust is a third liner on a cup contender. I much prefer him on the third line. He can move up whenever someone misses a game (probably almost every game)
Dec 22, 2020 at 2:50
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Quoting: pharrow
I'm just curious why you think they are going to make a trade?

I honestly think their roster is probably set. Which is a really sad situation. But it is what it is.
GMJR has all but said Jankowski is our 3C. As dumb a move as that is.
He wants someone to take faceoffs. Which is why he won't play on the wing.
The problem is he's as soft as brassard, Sheahand, Bjugstad. That just doesn't bode well for his playing a 3C which is why he got replaced by Lucic in CGY.


They will because they are all in and this current roster I don`t think is good enough to win. The only reason they haven`t is because of question marks surrounding the season and travel.
Dec 22, 2020 at 2:50
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Quoting: HadesOfSoCal
Miller either signs in Anaheim or retires.
He won’t be going cup running at this point.


Why?
Dec 22, 2020 at 2:51
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Quoting: Eddy
Rust is a third liner on a cup contender. I much prefer him on the third line. He can move up whenever someone misses a game (probably almost every game)


So is Kapanen but Kapanen is much better at running a 3rd line than Rust. You would be way better off swapping them
Dec 22, 2020 at 2:52
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Quoting: mhockey91
Lines wrong but I would like the signing


What is wrong with the lines. I don`t think this is how the team is going to look by Jan 13 but if this is the roster they do start with then I think this is my ideal lineup and one that I would assume Sullivan would use as well - at least very similar.
Dec 22, 2020 at 2:53
#11
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
So is Kapanen but Kapanen is much better at running a 3rd line than Rust. You would be way better off swapping them


You aren`t wrong but They want to use Kapanen with Sid and have said so numerous times.
Dec 22, 2020 at 2:54
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Quoting: PENSFAN18
Line would be this then
Guentzel-Crosby-Kapanen
Zucker-Malkin-Rust
Tanev-McCann-Granlund
Jankowski-Blueger-Rodrigues

ZAR is out til mid feburary


Swap Rust and Granlund and keep Tanev on 4th. Put Sceviour in for Aston-Reese.
Dec 22, 2020 at 3:16
#13
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Quoting: Eddy
They will because they are all in and this current roster I don`t think is good enough to win. The only reason they haven`t is because of question marks surrounding the season and travel.


I don't argue those 1st two points. They are all in, and the roster is definitely not good enough to win.
But it's the rest of the logic that makes no sense to me. Because those things really don't stop you from improving the roster.
I think A. JR gets these ideas in his head, which shows with signings like Ceci. Then we are hell bent from there. One of those ideas, is Jankowski at 3C.
While the rest of us think that's dumb as hell, we also think signing Ceci is dumb as hell too. But here we are.
Dec 22, 2020 at 3:24
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Quoting: Eddy
Rust is a third liner on a cup contender. I much prefer him on the third line. He can move up whenever someone misses a game (probably almost every game)


He was a PPG with malkin.. swap granland with rust and lines are good
Dec 22, 2020 at 3:25
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Quoting: PENSFAN18
Line would be this then
Guentzel-Crosby-Kapanen
Zucker-Malkin-Rust
Tanev-McCann-Granlund
Jankowski-Blueger-Rodrigues

ZAR is out til mid feburary



Looks perfect to me tbh
Dec 22, 2020 at 3:26
#16
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Quoting: Eddy
Swap Rust and Granlund and keep Tanev on 4th. Put Sceviour in for Aston-Reese.


So rust after having a career year and has developed great chemistry with Geno gets bumped to the third line? Yeah fat chance
Dec 22, 2020 at 4:27
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Quoting: mhockey91
So rust after having a career year and has developed great chemistry with Geno gets bumped to the third line? Yeah fat chance


I like Rust but thats hockey management 101. You always improve your team. Granlund is an upgrade. It`s not difficult for players to put up higher point totals when their role and linemates change. There are plenty of players who would have had the same "career year" if put in Rusts position. Look at Vegas. There are a lot of really good hockey players in this league and around the world. There aren`t a lot of top 6, offensive, PP roles in the NHL. I like Rust in a third line role on a healthy team. I think Rust would excel in that role. I think he has good chemistry with ZAR as well. Chances are he is going to play in the top 6 most of the year anyways with injuries on the Pens happening seemingly every game.
Dec 22, 2020 at 4:29
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Quoting: Eddy
I like Rust but thats hockey management 101. You always improve your team. Granlund is an upgrade. It`s not difficult for players to put up higher point totals when they`re role and linemates change. There are plenty of players who would have had the same "career year" if put in Rusts position. I like Rust in a third line role on a healthy team. Chances are he is going to play in the top 6 most of the year anyways with injuries on the Pens happening seemingly every game.


Considering Rust would put up a 40-50 point pace playing third line prior to this season and he finally broke out with a PPG season in an elevated role makes me think he’s definitely a top 6 forward. Granland can play 3rd line if pens were to sign him.
Dec 22, 2020 at 4:31
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Quoting: pharrow
I don't argue those 1st two points. They are all in, and the roster is definitely not good enough to win.
But it's the rest of the logic that makes no sense to me. Because those things really don't stop you from improving the roster.
I think A. JR gets these ideas in his head, which shows with signings like Ceci. Then we are hell bent from there. One of those ideas, is Jankowski at 3C.
While the rest of us think that's dumb as hell, we also think signing Ceci is dumb as hell too. But here we are.


Yeah I guess maybe I`m just being optimistic? I would like to think and hope GMJR and Pens organization knows that this team won`t cut it and that moves are needed. I`d like to think they have a plan and that the FA signings weren`t the end of that plan. I think there are still transactions to be made and that there will be opportunities available as many teams are going to want to make moves as well.
Dec 22, 2020 at 4:33
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Quoting: mhockey91
Considering Rust would put up a 40-50 point pace playing third line prior to this season and he finally broke out with a PPG season in an elevated role makes me think he’s definitely a top 6 forward. Granland can play 3rd line if pens were to sign him.


Alright sure. Fact is we don`t have Granlund right now so it doesn`t really matter. I would prefer signing a winger and playing Rust on third line. You disagree. We`ll see what Sullivan thinks because that is all that really matters in reality.
Dec 22, 2020 at 4:40
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Quoting: Eddy
Alright sure. Fact is we don`t have Granlund right now so it doesn`t really matter. I would prefer signing a winger and playing Rust on third line. You disagree. We`ll see what Sullivan thinks because that is all that really matters in reality.


The fact that solid UFAS are being signed for such low AAV right now makes me angry that GMJR hasn’t done anything. Haula, Soderberg, AA, granland, etc...

There are still solid FA available to help our third line, the weakest part of our team. I will be very disappointed if GMJR does nothing
 
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