There is simply no way in the world Columbus makes this trade.

Idk about that. Depends on what they think for a 3 year outlook. Jenner and Okposo are pretty close to equal offensively, and KO is the far superior defensive player and the retention there makes their salary very close (4.65 x 2 vs 5.1 x 3). It’s that extra year that sucks, but that’s what the second and prospect are for. They probably don’t do it, but I’ve seen much worse KO proposals.

Your underrating what Jenner brings to the cbj. Which is fine but we’re looking for upgrades not lateral moves that add more cap.

Okposo has out produced Jenner, and even last year from the 4th line and in 12 less games, Okposo had 5 less points

Actually thats not true Kekäläinen said hed be willing to take on salary for assets, and hes getting 2 good assets for a little bit of salary and basically the same player. Okposo also brings heart to his game just like Jenner, all the intangibles that cant be quantified with stats. CBJ probably can get more out of Okposo as they wont relegate him to the 4th line

Intangibles aside (which KO is known for and has been known for since he’s been a rookie) they are really close production wise and KO is significantly better defensively. It’s not really a debate, go look at the last 3 years and offensively they’re close and KO has better defensive metrics. The real issue isn’t the extra 1 M for 2 seasons, it’s the extra 3rd year to 2 for Jenner. Don’t kid yourself into thinking Jenner is a far superior player, he isn’t. He just doesn’t come with a 6M price tag that makes him look bad

Aaaaaand this is where I stopped taking you seriously.

The third year is bad enough since that's when most of the core gets resigned, but acting like Jenner is some kind of defensive slouch in an attempt to trade-neg us is absurd.

Never once said that he was a slouch, just that KO is better defensively.. because he is. I like how you delete the other half of my quote, as if I didn’t say that the extra year is the kicker and they prolly don’t do that because of that.. but you do you and don’t take a random person seriously even though you just regurgitated what they actually said and took them out of context by deleting half of what they wrote

Jenners cap hit is 3.75, not 4.65

Jenner plays center, increasing his value, makes less money by kind of alot, is 5 years younger, has less term and despite a dip in production point wise has been more productive than okposo for years.

You also know full well the LOG line acted closer to a 2nd line for much of the year than a 4th line.

Acting like asplund, a 2016 pick with 3 NHL points is still a good asset is pretty funny. He wont come close to making this sabres roster.

This trade isnt close.

Right, but 900K retention from KO effectively would make it 4.65 in this scenario

I mean, what do you mean by this? Per 82 games, in the last 4 Seasons, Jenner has outscored KO once. Two years ago when 39ish/82 vs 30ish/82.

I mean, okposo's devastating concussions are almost directly responsible for the complete changing of his game, ice time etc.

Jenner being a 55% faceoff winner is kind of important seeing as buffalo has no one who is good at faceoffs besides curtis lazar. He also kills penalties, which okposo doesn't do.

So we have Jenner who is younger, plays an important position, makes less, is better and is signed for one less year for okposo, a prospect who is entering his D+5 year with 27 career games, 3 points and is already in the last year of his ELC and a non 1st round pick.

Its a horrible trade, and Columbus still has to sign PLD THIS year, this would eat up like half the remaining salary cap, and for what?

The only thing that makes the trade bad for CBJ is the extra year. Throwing non sequitars like “is better” doesn’t make it so. Yes, KO had to change and he did a damn fine job at refining who he was into one of the better nhl defensive players. 5v5 he’s better defensively. Jenner plays center, kills penalties, and they both produce equally offensively. In a vacuum, they’re comparable players with some strong points each. Taken the salary into play, yes the extra year is prolly a deal breaker. If they had the same term, imo Buf would say no. Which is why it’s not nearly as bad is your making it out to be

I stand by all my points and regardless there IS a 3rd year.

It would eat up 2 mill, for a 2nd and a prospect, they have 20 mill coming off the books next year, and they said they willing to take on salary this year so clearly PLD's contract does not concern them. Its hard to prove hes better when "he's younger and plays a more important position, and plays in their top 6, yet Okposo out paced him from the 4th line (12 less games). Okposo has out scored him every year except 18-19. Hes also a converted center not a natural center so that point is moot. Your trying so hard to win the argument your just making stuff up. The 2nd is enough value to take on an extra year, especially when they will utilize Okposo much more effectively, and Asplund is enough to make up the age gap

As do I, neither are better and the only issue is the third year

Asplund and a 2nd are worth next to nothing. Its a horrible trade. Have a nice day