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Fleury to Big D?

Created by: Watty1
Team: 2016-17 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 24, 2016
Published: Nov. 24, 2016
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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PIT
  1. Faksa, Radek
  2. Lehtonen, Kari ($2,000,000 retained)
  3. Nemeth, Patrik
  4. 2017 2nd round pick (DAL)
Retained Salary Transactions
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2017
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2018
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2019
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$73,000,000$66,951,974$0$1,835,000$6,048,026
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$1,875,000$1,875,000
LW
UFA - 3
$9,500,000$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
$6,800,000$6,800,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 6
$3,850,000$3,850,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 9
$4,250,000$4,250,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$667,500$667,500 (Performance Bonus$257,500$258K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
$625,000$625,000
RW
UFA - 2
$1,900,000$1,900,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
$640,000$640,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$1,000,000$1,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
$692,500$692,500 (Performance Bonus$257,500$258K)
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$3,333,225$3,333,225
LD
UFA - 6
$7,250,000$7,250,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 6
$628,333$628,333 (Performance Bonus$257,500$258K)
G
UFA - 1
$3,300,000$3,300,000
RD
UFA - 1
$2,100,000$2,100,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
LD
UFA - 1
$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
UFA - 1
$3,900,000$3,900,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
$900,000$900,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Nov. 24, 2016 at 12:55 p.m.
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I think pens say no. Faska is someone who we have a million of in the minors. Nameth is a good peice but no where near enough for fluery. The 2nd is usless sense dallas with a goalie will most certainly make the playoffs and the pick will basically be a third. Plus we take on lehtonen's contract which does us no good. Obviously lehtonen or niemi would have to be included but pens will want more if you are including him.
Nov. 24, 2016 at 1:08 p.m.
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I think pens say no. Faska is someone who we have a million of in the minors. Nameth is a good peice but no where near enough for fluery. The 2nd is usless sense dallas with a goalie will most certainly make the playoffs and the pick will basically be a third. Plus we take on lehtonen's contract which does us no good. Obviously lehtonen or niemi would have to be included but pens will want more if you are including him.

I think you are under valuing faksa. I could see him as replacing bonino if he isnt resigned. Yes that pick could be a late second but look at some of the pens seconds and thirds. Guentzel, sprong, if you want to go back to letang you can. what im saying is second and thirds arent nothing, its another asset and another lottery ticket on an nhler. draft picks are more valuable than ever. With how saturated the goalie market is and the implications of the expansion draft, I would be very pleased with a return like this.
Nov. 24, 2016 at 1:50 p.m.
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Quoting: npalley98
I think pens say no. Faska is someone who we have a million of in the minors. Nameth is a good peice but no where near enough for fluery. The 2nd is usless sense dallas with a goalie will most certainly make the playoffs and the pick will basically be a third. Plus we take on lehtonen's contract which does us no good. Obviously lehtonen or niemi would have to be included but pens will want more if you are including him.
The value of goalies isn't all that high. Teams know Pittsburgh has to dump Fleury, so why would they pay top dollar? Secondly, Faksa has potential and with Pittsburgh up against the cap his salary makes him more valuable than Eric Fehr. Third, taking Lehtonen back isn't the end of the world; Pittsburgh would expose him and his buyout is easier if Dallas retains some salary.
Nov. 24, 2016 at 6:28 p.m.
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I think pens say no. Faska is someone who we have a million of in the minors. Nameth is a good peice but no where near enough for fluery. The 2nd is usless sense dallas with a goalie will most certainly make the playoffs and the pick will basically be a third. Plus we take on lehtonen's contract which does us no good. Obviously lehtonen or niemi would have to be included but pens will want more if you are including him.
The value of goalies isn't all that high. Teams know Pittsburgh has to dump Fleury, so why would they pay top dollar? Secondly, Faksa has potential and with Pittsburgh up against the cap his salary makes him more valuable than Eric Fehr. Third, taking Lehtonen back isn't the end of the world; Pittsburgh would expose him and his buyout is easier if Dallas retains some salary.
Pittsburgh doesnt have to give up fluery though. They can stick with the fluery murray tandem and give vegas some picks to have them take someone like sheary or rust.
Nov. 25, 2016 at 12:24 p.m.
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I think pens say no. Faska is someone who we have a million of in the minors. Nameth is a good peice but no where near enough for fluery. The 2nd is usless sense dallas with a goalie will most certainly make the playoffs and the pick will basically be a third. Plus we take on lehtonen's contract which does us no good. Obviously lehtonen or niemi would have to be included but pens will want more if you are including him.
The value of goalies isn't all that high. Teams know Pittsburgh has to dump Fleury, so why would they pay top dollar? Secondly, Faksa has potential and with Pittsburgh up against the cap his salary makes him more valuable than Eric Fehr. Third, taking Lehtonen back isn't the end of the world; Pittsburgh would expose him and his buyout is easier if Dallas retains some salary.
Pittsburgh doesnt have to give up fluery though. They can stick with the fluery murray tandem and give vegas some picks to have them take someone like sheary or rust.
Sure, that is certainly possible. But Fleury has alot of pride and I doubt he will be happy sitting behind Murray. Having nearly $9m in goaltending is not tenable in the long-run.
Nov. 30, 2016 at 11:22 p.m.
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I think pens say no. Faska is someone who we have a million of in the minors. Nameth is a good peice but no where near enough for fluery. The 2nd is usless sense dallas with a goalie will most certainly make the playoffs and the pick will basically be a third. Plus we take on lehtonen's contract which does us no good. Obviously lehtonen or niemi would have to be included but pens will want more if you are including him.
The value of goalies isn't all that high. Teams know Pittsburgh has to dump Fleury, so why would they pay top dollar? Secondly, Faksa has potential and with Pittsburgh up against the cap his salary makes him more valuable than Eric Fehr. Third, taking Lehtonen back isn't the end of the world; Pittsburgh would expose him and his buyout is easier if Dallas retains some salary.
Pittsburgh doesnt have to give up fluery though. They can stick with the fluery murray tandem and give vegas some picks to have them take someone like sheary or rust.


If it's to pass on Murray it better be a 1st and 2nd rounder minimum

Not to mention the penguins would have to carry 9 million in goalies next year. That's bad mgt.

Fluery has to go
 
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