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Created by: digitalbath
Team: 2020-21 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 24, 2020
Published: Dec. 24, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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I feel these trades are pretty realistic on returns, but i believe helm holds good bottom 6 grit value and a number of teams would be interested especially with half salary being retained.
Trades
1.
DET
  1. Martinez, Alec
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (NJD)
2.
DET
  1. Alnefelt, Hugo [Reserve List]
  2. Johnson, Tyler
  3. 2022 1st round pick (TBL)
TBL
    Future Considerations
    3.
    DET
    1. 2021 6th round pick (PIT)
    2. 2022 3rd round pick (EDM)
    EDM
    1. Helm, Darren ($1,925,000 retained)
    Buyouts
    Retained Salary Transactions
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2021
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    2022
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    2023
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$72,811,389$0$1,007,500$8,688,611
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
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    $6,100,000$6,100,000
    C
    UFA - 3
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    $2,850,000$2,850,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $2,950,000$2,950,000
    LW
    UFA - 2
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    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    RW, C, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LW, RW, C
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    C, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $5,250,000$5,250,000
    C, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    RW, LW
    RFA - 2
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    $1,800,000$1,800,000
    C, RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $850,000$850,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $997,500$997,500
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $1,700,000$1,700,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $3,600,000$3,600,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $5,700,000$5,700,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $714,166$714,166 (Performance Bonus$157,500$158K)
    RD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $925,000$925,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $6,083,333$6,083,333
    C
    UFA - 1

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    Dec. 24, 2020 at 12:47 a.m.
    #1
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    Edited Dec. 24, 2020 at 12:54 a.m.
    Tampa isn’t giving up the goalie and Doesn’t need the cap space no where near that bad. I put together a team signs Cirelli 4.1 mil makes no other trades and is 650k under cap if I can do it so, can JBB only adding was Cirelli no departures put coburn and Paquette on taxi squad 650k+ under
    Dec. 24, 2020 at 12:53 a.m.
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    Absolutely. Also always a good sign for a rebuilding team when they have enough picks to bulge out the cap friendly year column double wide. Good stuff 👍

    Cue 15 replies of "that will NEVER happen because... "

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    Dec. 24, 2020 at 12:55 a.m.
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    Quoting: Bolts20Cup
    Tampa isn’t giving up the goalie and Doesn’t need the cap space no where near that had. I put together a team signs Cirelli 4.1 mil makes no other trades and is 650k under cap if I can do it so, can JBB only adding was Cirelli no departures put coburn and Paquette on taxi squad 650k+ under


    Suggesting NHL gms are better at managing teams than most capfriendly users is, well, bold... and I don't mean that as a compliment to folks here 😐
    Dec. 24, 2020 at 12:55 a.m.
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    Quoting: Radu47
    Absolutely. Also always a good sign for a rebuilding team when they have enough picks to bulge out the cap friendly year column double wide. Good stuff 👍

    Cue 15 replies of "that will NEVER happen because... "

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    See above
    Dec. 24, 2020 at 12:57 a.m.
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    MisstheWhalers
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    Vegas isn't paying to move Martinez.
    Dec. 24, 2020 at 12:58 a.m.
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    That trade is delusional not a chance in hell JBB does it so why say how smart an idea it is because it isn’t.
    Dec. 24, 2020 at 1:02 a.m.
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    Quoting: Bolts20Cup
    Tampa isn’t giving up the goalie and Doesn’t need the cap space no where near that bad. I put together a team signs Cirelli 4.1 mil makes no other trades and is 650k under cap if I can do it so, can JBB only adding was Cirelli no departures put coburn and Paquette on taxi squad 650k+ under


    Hes getting more than 4.1 so your solution is incorrect, they stil have to move someone out and TJ is the odd man out, even with Kuch on LTIR, they are gonna have to move someone, and TJ contract is worth a 1st+
    Dec. 24, 2020 at 1:03 a.m.
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    Quoting: MisstheWhalers
    Vegas isn't paying to move Martinez.


    They absolutely would pay to move him, they gotta move someone, no teams that would want him can take on his contract.
    Dec. 24, 2020 at 1:05 a.m.
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    Edited Dec. 24, 2020 at 1:10 a.m.
    Quoting: digitalbath
    Hes getting more than 4.1 so your solution is incorrect, they stil have to move someone out and TJ is the odd man out, even with Kuch on LTIR, they are gonna have to move someone, and TJ contract is worth a 1st+
    no probably not but even say 4.7 I’m still 58,000 under
    He actually probably signs 3.9 -4.2
    Players will take a little less with no state income tax and a legit chance at a cup every year
    Dec. 24, 2020 at 1:11 a.m.
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    Quoting: Bolts20Cup
    no probably not but even say 4.7 I’m still 58,000 under


    So if youre him, you are ok being paid less than TJ? Or gourde? I dont think hes going to get 6+ but i do think you are being too optimistic, even on a bridge deal 5-5.5 why assume hes gonna take less than TJ? who got WAIVED and 0 teams took him, FOR FREE.. like come on, TB is in a bit of a bind and everyone assumes Yzerman or Fitzgerald are going to bail them out for nothing, or that Cirelli is going to take a pay cut to make sure this cap solution is easy on Bris..
    Dec. 24, 2020 at 1:12 a.m.
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    Quoting: digitalbath
    So if youre him, you are ok being paid less than TJ? Or gourde? I dont think hes going to get 6+ but i do think you are being too optimistic, even on a bridge deal 5-5.5 why assume hes gonna take less than TJ? who got WAIVED and 0 teams took him, FOR FREE.. like come on, TB is in a bit of a bind and everyone assumes Yzerman or Fitzgerald are going to bail them out for nothing, or that Cirelli is going to take a pay cut to make sure this cap solution is easy on Bris..
    25$ bet to the charity of the others choice?
    Dec. 24, 2020 at 1:12 a.m.
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    Quoting: digitalbath
    They absolutely would pay to move him, they gotta move someone, no teams that would want him can take on his contract.

    They have the leverage on any Martinez deal. They’re only 1 mil over and worst case scenario they can retain 2 mil on his contract and rock a 22 man roster. However, more than likely they’ll just flip Mcnabb for low value.
    Dec. 24, 2020 at 1:14 a.m.
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    Quoting: Bolts20Cup
    25$ bet to the charity of the others choice?[
    Dec. 24, 2020 at 1:21 a.m.
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    Quoting: digitalbath
    So if youre him, you are ok being paid less than TJ? Or gourde? I dont think hes going to get 6+ but i do think you are being too optimistic, even on a bridge deal 5-5.5 why assume hes gonna take less than TJ? who got WAIVED and 0 teams took him, FOR FREE.. like come on, TB is in a bit of a bind and everyone assumes Yzerman or Fitzgerald are going to bail them out for nothing, or that Cirelli is going to take a pay cut to make sure this cap solution is easy on Bris..

    I just adjusted paid Cirelli 5 mil and still have 133k moved Paquette of taxi squad Johnson on McElhinney on Gibson as backup goalie absolutely no trade every player is on roster
    Dec. 24, 2020 at 3:17 a.m.
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    Quoting: Radu47
    Suggesting NHL gms are better at managing teams than most capfriendly users is, well, bold... and I don't mean that as a compliment to folks here 😐


    https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2145209 here is why they don’t need a salary dump stop being an ignorant fool
    Dec. 24, 2020 at 3:24 a.m.
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    Please someone give me a reasonable rationale why Edmonton gives a 3&6 for Helm? On what planet does that make any sense?
    Dec. 24, 2020 at 10:43 a.m.
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    Quoting: digitalbath
    They absolutely would pay to move him, they gotta move someone, no teams that would want him can take on his contract.


    Vegas can go with a 20 man lineup and send Holden to the taxi squad to get themselves cap compliant.
     
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