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A Penguins Prospect Pyramid even though we dont have very many

Created by: Pens3lieve
Initial Creation Date: Dec 15, 2020
Published: Dec 24, 2020 at 7:52
Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
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A Penguins Prospect Pyramid even though we dont have very many...

So the prospects are ranked below (kind of) by position although I flipped some LWers over to the right side to balance it out a bit...

but I will give a couple other ratings and thoughts.
(forgive me if I don't know alot about these guys...)

Class A Prospects: Top prospects any team would like to have.
W, Poulin, A-, Top-6


Class B Prospects: I think these guys will eventually get a shot in the NHL
LD, Joseph, B+, Top-4
RW, Legare, B-, Mid-6
RD, Maniscalco, B-, Top-6
LW, O'Connor, B-, Mid-6


Class C Prospects: Starting to get into the "if everything goes right we'll see in a couple years" guys.
LW, Bjorkvist, C+, Bot-6
LW, Gruden, C+, Mid-6
LD, Lee, C+, Top-6
G, Blomqvist, C+ #1A

F, Lafferty, C, Bot-6
LD, Phillips, C, Top-6
RD, Reilly, C, Top-6
G, Clang, C, #1B

LW, Miletec, C-, Bot-6
F, Almeida, C-, Bot-6
C, Angello, C-, Bot-6
C, Bellerive, C-, Bot-6
G, Larmi, C-, #1B


Class D (the loooong shots/it would probably take a miracle)
W, Puustinen, D+, Bot-6
W, Zohorna, D+, 4th line
LW, Ansons, D+, depth

W, Drozg, D, 4th line
LD, Almari, D, 7th D
C, Caulfield, D, depth
RD, Lindgren, D, 7th D

C, Svejkovsky, D-, minor
RD, Airola, D-, minor
G, D'Orio, D-, depth
C, Yoder, D-, minor

Your thoughts? anyone I badly misjudged???
Trades
PIT
    ANA
    1. Guentzel, Jake
    2. Malkin, Evgeni
    3. Tanev, Brandon
    4. Rust, Bryan
    5. Kapanen, Kasperi
    6. Sceviour, Colton
    7. Crosby, Sidney
    8. Rodrigues, Evan
    9. Zucker, Jason
    10. Jankowski, Mark
    11. Matheson, Michael
    12. Letang, Kris
    13. Pettersson, Marcus
    14. Riikola, Juuso
    15. Ruhwedel, Chad
    16. Marino, John
    17. Jarry, Tristan
    18. DeSmith, Casey
    PIT
      ANA
      1. Aston-Reese, Zach
      2. McCann, Jared
      3. Blueger, Teddy
      4. Dumoulin, Brian
      5. Ceci, Cody
      Buyouts
      • Jack Johnson: $1,166,667
      Retained Salary Transactions
      • Nick Bjugstad: $2,050,000 (50%)
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      2021
      PIT
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      WSH
      ANA
      2022
      PIT
      PIT
      PIT
      PIT
      PIT
      PIT
      PIT
      2023
      PIT
      PIT
      PIT
      PIT
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      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
      29$81,500,000$25,589,581$0$2,317,500$55,910,419
      Left WingCenterRight Wing
      PIT
      O'Connor, Drew
      $925,000
      LW
      RFA - 2
      PIT
      Lafferty, Sam
      $750,000
      C, LW
      UFA - 2
      PIT
      Poulin, Samuel
      $894,167
      LW, RW
      RFA - 3
      PIT
      Björkqvist, Kasper
      $792,500
      LW
      RFA - 1
      PIT
      Bellerive, Jordy
      $733,333
      C
      RFA - 2
      PIT
      Légaré, Nathan
      $795,000
      RW
      RFA - 3
      PIT
      Gruden, Jonathan
      $788,333
      LW
      RFA - 3
      PIT
      Almeida, Justin
      $809,166
      C, LW
      RFA - 2
      PIT
      Puustinen, Valtteri
      $700,000
      LW
      RFA
      PIT
      Miletic, Sam
      $700,000
      LW, C
      RFA - 1
      PIT
      Angello, Anthony
      $725,000
      C
      RFA - 2
      PIT
      Zohorna, Radim
      $792,500
      LW, RW
      RFA - 1
      PIT
      Ansons, Raivis
      $700,000
      LW
      RFA
      PIT
      Caulfield, Judd
      $700,000
      C
      RFA
      PIT
      Drozg, Jan
      $809,166
      LW, RW
      RFA - 2
      PIT
      Svejkovsky, Lukas
      $700,000
      C
      RFA
      PIT
      Yoder, Chase
      $700,000
      C
      RFA
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      PIT
      Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
      $863,333
      LD
      RFA - 2
      PIT
      Maniscalco, Joshua
      $853,333
      RD
      RFA - 3
      PIT
      Blomqvist, Joel
      $700,000
      G
      RFA
      PIT
      Lee, Cameron
      $925,000
      LD
      RFA - 2
      PIT
      Reilly, Will
      $806,250
      RD
      RFA - 2
      PIT
      Clang, Calle
      $700,000
      G
      RFA
      PIT
      Phillips, Clayton
      $700,000
      LD
      RFA
      PIT
      Lindgren, Jesper
      $775,833
      RD
      RFA - 1
      PIT
      Larmi, Emil
      $792,500
      G
      RFA - 1
      PIT
      Almari, Niclas
      $809,167
      LD
      RFA - 2
      PIT
      Airola, Santeri
      $700,000
      RD
      RFA
      PIT
      D'Orio, Alex
      $733,333
      G
      RFA - 2

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      Dec 24, 2020 at 7:53
      #1
      Hockey IQ
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      Dec 24, 2020 at 9:28
      #2
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      Anaheim accepts
      Dec 24, 2020 at 10:40
      #3
      Hockey Super Genius
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      Im a big Phillips fan, every time I've watched him play in College... I see NHL potential plus he can skate
      Bjorkqvist will be a 4th liner in NHL, he just works to hard not to make it
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      Dec 24, 2020 at 12:18
      #4
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      our centers suck.
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      Dec 24, 2020 at 3:43
      #5
      NoWah49
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      I don't see Poulin that high, but he definitely is our best prospect
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      Dec 24, 2020 at 5:38
      #6
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      Quoting: pharrow
      our centers suck.


      The Pens last Center prospect was Sid, lol
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      Dec 28, 2020 at 2:16
      #7
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      Edited Dec 28, 2020 at 5:43
      PO-Joseph is an A- prospect. A top 100 prospect on any top 100 list out there.

      Poulin is an “A” prospect.

      I agree Legare, O’Connor and Maniscalco are all “B-“ prospect. Legare might be a “B” b/c of his NHL level shot.

      I would put Blomqvist, Clang, Lee, Lafferty all at “C+”. I would have Angello, Gruden, Bjorkqvist, Almeida, Svejkovsky, Caulfield(both Svejkovsky and Caulfield were invited to the WJ try-outs for team USA. Both were one of 38 players invited; they are young, a long way to go, but both have NHL potential. Just being invited to the WJ try-outs means something) all at “C” prospects.

      The biggest error IMO is Puustinen. He’s a top 6 potential. He’s another “B-“, “C+” prospect. He’s a top 6 or bust type of prospect. A scoring winger. Killing it in Liiga, against men. He’s a little, 5’9, 5’10, scoring winger. Like I said, a top 6 player or bust.


      https://www.pensburgh.com/2020/11/6/21551664/pensburgh-top-25-under-25-11-valtteri-puustinen

      https://primetimesportstalk.com/2020/04/18/pittsburgh-penguins-big-3-prospect-report/

      https://dobberprospects.com/2020/12/23/december-31-in-31-pittsburgh-penguins/

      Copy and paste these articles and read up on him alittle more. The 2nd article has him as our 3rd best prospect.

      I would rank the Pens prospects, Poulin, PO-Joseph, Legare, Maniscalco, O’Connor, Puustinen, C.Lee, Blomqvist, Clang, Bjorkqvist, J.Caulfield, Svejkovsky, Gruden, J.Almeida, Bellerive, Zohorna.

      Lafferty and Angello are graduated from prospect to NHL players, bottom 6 players. Both good two-way players that can chip in scoring some.

      I don’t have much faith at all in Reilly, Phillips, Almari. I think all 3 are career AHL d-men. NHL depth, injury call-ups at best.

      I do like E.Larmi though. I would put him as a “C”, “C-“ prospect. I think he’s a future NHL back-up. Or AHL stater, 3rd goalie in the organization type at worst.

      Puustinen is way too low though. If he makes the NHL. He’ll be a top 6 winger and Be a 2nd PP player.
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      Dec 28, 2020 at 5:31
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      Edited Dec 28, 2020 at 5:42
      Quoting: PGHBOB69
      PO-Joseph is an A- prospect. A top 100 prospect on any top 100 list out there.

      Poulin is an “A” prospect.

      I agree Legare, O’Connor and Maniscalco are all “B-“ prospect. Legare might be a “B” b/c of his NHL level shot.

      I would put Blomqvist, Clang, Lee, Lafferty all at “C+”. I would have Angello, Gruden, Bjorkqvist, Almeida, Svejkovsky, Caulfield(both Svejkovsky and Caulfield were invited to the WJ try-outs for team USA. Both were one of 38 players invited; they are young, a long way to go, but both have NHL potential. Just being invited to the WJ try-outs means something) all at “C” prospects.

      The biggest error IMO is Puustinen. He’s a top 6 potential. He’s another “B-“, “C+” prospect. He’s a top 6 or bust type of prospect. A scoring winger. Killing it in Liiga, against men. He’s a little, 5’9, 5’10, scoring winger. Like I said, a top 6 player or bust.


      https://www.pensburgh.com/2020/11/6/21551664/pensburgh-top-25-under-25-11-valtteri-puustinen

      https://primetimesportstalk.com/2020/04/18/pittsburgh-penguins-big-3-prospect-report/

      https://dobberprospects.com/2020/12/23/december-31-in-31-pittsburgh-penguins/

      Copy and paste these articles and read up on him alittle more. The 2nd article has him as our 3rd best prospect.

      I would rank the Pens prospects, Poulin, PO-Joseph, Legare, Maniscalco, O’Connor, Puustinen, C.Lee, Blomqvist, Clang, Bjorkqvist, J.Caulfield, Svejkovsky, Gruden, J.Almeida, Bellerive, Zohorna.

      Lafferty and Angello are graduated from prospect to NHL players, bottom 6 players. Both good two-way players that can chip in scoring some.

      I don’t have much faith at all in Reilly, Phillips, Almari. I think all 3 are career AHL d-men. NHL depth, injury call-ups at best.

      I do like E.Larmi though. I would put him as a “C”, “C-“ prospect. I think he’s a future NHL back-up. Or AHL stater, 3rd goalie in the organization type at worst.

      Puustinen is way too low though. If he makes the NHL. He’ll be a top 6 winger and Be a 2nd PP player.


      @Pens3lieve

      https://www.pensburgh.com/2020/11/20/21575860/pensburgh-top-25-under-25-1-john-marino-penguins-best-young-players

      Here’s another article/list that has him right behind Maniscalco and ahead of Blomqvist, Bjorkqvist and Clang. Lafferty is 25 years old, and not on this List. But Puustinen would still be ahead of Lafferty too IMO.

      Again: I’d go;

      Poulin “A”
      PO-Joseph “A-“(a top 100 prospect on any list out there)
      Legare “B”

      OConnor, Maniscalco, Puustinen “B-“

      Blomqvist, Clang, C.Lee, Lafferty “C+”

      Bjorkqvist, Angello, Svejkovsky, C.Caulfield, Almeida, E.Larmi, Bellerive, S.Miletic, R.Zohorna “C”

      Anything less than that would be a “C-“ or a “D”. Very doubtful NHL future.
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      Dec 28, 2020 at 5:41
      #9
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      Hockey IQ
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      Quoting: PGHBOB69
      @Pens3lieve

      https://www.pensburgh.com/2020/11/20/21575860/pensburgh-top-25-under-25-1-john-marino-penguins-best-young-players

      Here’s another article/list that has him right behind Maniscalco and ahead of Blomqvist, Bjorkqvist and Clang. Lafferty is 25 years old, and not on this List. But Puustinen would still be ahead of Lafferty too IMO.

      Again: I’d go;

      Poulin “A”
      PO-Joseph “A-“(a top 100 prospect on any list out there)
      Legare “B”

      OConnor, Maniscalco, Puustinen “B-“

      Blomqvist, Clang, C.Lee, Lafferty “C+”

      Bjorkqvist, Angello, Svejkovsky, C.Caulfield, Almeida, E.Larmi, Bellerive, R.Zohorna “C”

      Anything less than that would be a “C-“ or a “D”. Very doubtful NHL future.


      thx for the feedback!
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