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worst players in the East division

Created by: Sabres923
Initial Creation Date: Dec 26, 2020
Published: Dec 26, 2020 at 5:07
Team: 2020-21 Custom Team
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Hard list to make. Considering this is probably the best division talent wise.
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
20$100$45,297,458$0$2,650,000-$45,297,358
Left WingCenterRight Wing
WSH
Sheary, Conor
$735,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
BUF
Mittelstadt, Casey
$874,125
C
RFA - 1
NYR
Kakko, Kaapo
$925,000
RW
RFA - 2
NJD
Wood, Miles
$2,750,000
LW
RFA - 2
BUF
Eakin, Cody
$2,250,000
C
UFA - 2
BUF
Thompson, Tage
$1,400,000
C, RW
RFA - 3
NYI
Dal Colle, Michael
$700,000
LW
RFA - 1
NYR
Howden, Brett
$863,333
C
RFA - 1
NYI
Komarov, Leo
$3,000,000
RW, LW, C
NTC
UFA - 2
NYR
Lemieux, Brendan
$1,550,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
NJD
Zajac, Travis
$5,750,000
C
NTC
UFA - 1
BOS
Wagner, Chris
$1,350,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PHI
Gostisbehere, Shayne
$4,500,000
LD
UFA - 3
BUF
Ristolainen, Rasmus
$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 2
BUF
Hutton, Carter
$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
NYI
Hickey, Thomas
$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 2
PIT
Ceci, Cody
$1,250,000
RD
UFA - 1
PIT
DeSmith, Casey
$1,250,000
G
UFA - 2
NYR
Smith, Brendan
$4,350,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
NYR
Johnson, Jack
$1,150,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Dec 26, 2020 at 5:13
#1
hwjw
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Well this post is just going to hurt people’s feelings
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Dec 26, 2020 at 5:14
#2
papishark
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Disagree with a few choices here. Gost and Risto have skill, as do Wood and Lemieux. Maybe not skill you love but its there. Kakko and Mittel also have skill they just struggle to use it at all.
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Dec 26, 2020 at 5:19
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faulkmydzingel
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Risto would be a hell of a dman on any team other than the sabres.
Dec 26, 2020 at 5:20
#4
mhockey91
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How is Tanev there...
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Dec 26, 2020 at 5:21
#5
Sabres923
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Quoting: faulkmydzingel
Risto would be a hell of a dman on any team other than the sabres.


No
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Dec 26, 2020 at 5:22
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Penguins_Legend_Sheary
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Quoting: papishark
Disagree with a few choices here. Gost and Risto have skill, as do Wood and Lemieux. Maybe not skill you love but its there. Kakko and Mittel also have skill they just struggle to use it at all.


This lineup must be based on analytics (why guys like Kakko are on here). However, I am surprised to see Sheary on it considering his career analytics are pretty good.
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Dec 26, 2020 at 5:23
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Penguins_Legend_Sheary
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Quoting: faulkmydzingel
Risto would be a hell of a dman on any team other than the sabres.


Honestly, most of Ristolainen’s partners have seen much better results when away from him compared to with. Look at Montour & McCabe for example. Think that happens by coincidence?
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Dec 26, 2020 at 5:25
#8
faulkmydzingel
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Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary
Honestly, most of Ristolainen’s partners have seen much better results when away from him compared to with. Look at Montour & McCabe for example. Think that happens by coincidence?


More to that than partners. Look at the forward core in front of them. Look at the goaltending behind them. Look at the system they play. Look at the minutes Ristolainen plays. Sorry but you change the scenery for that kid he would be fantastic.
Dec 26, 2020 at 5:26
#9
bhavikp27
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Defense:
Johnson-Ceci
Moore-Smith
Hagg-Ristolainen
Bitetto

Johnston, Rooney, Wagner in for Tanev, Zajac, Sheary.
Dec 26, 2020 at 5:26
#10
Sabres923
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Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary
This lineup must be based on analytics (why guys like Kakko are on here). However, I am surprised to see Sheary on it considering his career analytics are pretty good.


Connor Sheary couldn’t catch a pass and would Fall down a lot as a sabres incredibly frustrating player to watch.
Dec 26, 2020 at 5:27
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Sabres923
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Defense:
Johnson-Ceci
Moore-Smith
Hagg-Ristolainen
Bitetto

Johnston, Rooney, Wagner in for Tanev, Zajac, Sheary.

Forgot about Ceci.
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Dec 26, 2020 at 5:34
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Penguins_Legend_Sheary
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Quoting: Sabres923
Connor Sheary couldn’t catch a pass and would Fall down a lot as a sabres incredibly frustrating player to watch.


That’s true Sheary had extremely lacklustre skill.
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Dec 26, 2020 at 5:36
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Penguins_Legend_Sheary
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Quoting: faulkmydzingel
More to that than partners. Look at the forward core in front of them. Look at the goaltending behind them. Look at the system they play. Look at the minutes Ristolainen plays. Sorry but you change the scenery for that kid he would be fantastic.


Yeah their system is pretty bad & he gets exposed with his matchups. On another team he could definitely improve but he still doesn’t have great hockey sense.
Dec 26, 2020 at 5:55
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Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary
Yeah their system is pretty bad & he gets exposed with his matchups. On another team he could definitely improve but he still doesn’t have great hockey sense.

Risto would be a great RW.
Dec 26, 2020 at 5:56
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Quoting: papishark
Disagree with a few choices here. Gost and Risto have skill, as do Wood and Lemieux. Maybe not skill you love but its there. Kakko and Mittel also have skill they just struggle to use it at all.

Fair
Dec 26, 2020 at 6:16
#16
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you are going to be eating your words on a lot of these players, yikes.
Dec 26, 2020 at 6:23
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Quoting: Klara
you are going to be eating your words on a lot of these players, yikes.


Which ones?
Dec 26, 2020 at 6:46
#18
KingLundqvist30
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If Kakko is here then so should Hughes.
Dec 26, 2020 at 6:53
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MisstheWhalers
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Defense:
Johnson-Ceci
Moore-Smith
Hagg-Ristolainen
Bitetto

Johnston, Rooney, Wagner in for Tanev, Zajac, Sheary.


Bitetto is an AHL dman, not sure how much he'll play for the Rangers but he should definitely be on a list like this, every single dman listed here is better then Bitetto including Jack Johnson.
Dec 26, 2020 at 7:30
#20
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Quoting: KingLundqvist30
If Kakko is here then so should Hughes.

Hughes is better than every center here.
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Dec 26, 2020 at 8:22
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littlejerryseinfeld
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Quoting: faulkmydzingel
More to that than partners. Look at the forward core in front of them. Look at the goaltending behind them. Look at the system they play. Look at the minutes Ristolainen plays. Sorry but you change the scenery for that kid he would be fantastic.


Yes. Its everyone else's fault. ::eye roll:: it's been 7 years. Its him
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Dec 26, 2020 at 8:39
#22
KingLundqvist30
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Quoting: Sabres923
Hughes is better than every center here.

He had the same point production as Kakko
Dec 26, 2020 at 9:02
#23
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Quoting: KingLundqvist30
He had the same point production as Kakko


Fair, but Hughes was a lot better. Kakko was legitimately the worst player in the league last year.
Dec 26, 2020 at 9:11
#24
KingLundqvist30
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Quoting: Sabres923
Fair, but Hughes was a lot better. Kakko was legitimately the worst player in the league last year.


Bruh- you know what, I’m not gonna even start.
Dec 26, 2020 at 9:22
#25
C21
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Quoting: KingLundqvist30
Bruh- you know what, I’m not gonna even start.


Hughes was better. Point production is far from the only way to judge a player. Jack was the better prospect and rookie. And he'll continue to be better than Kakko even as Kakko continues to develop and improve.
 
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