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(ARI/OTT) - Stepan for 2021 2nd round pick (CBJ)

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Dec 26, 2020 at 11:46
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Dec 26, 2020 at 11:48
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..I don’t think Ottawa needed to do this at all. Don’t see a need for the move and this is costing a 2nd when they’re just helping ARI. Good move for the Yotes, poor choice for the sens - it helps the depth but wasn’t a necessity.
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Dec 26, 2020 at 11:48
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Every fan of any other team rn:
Dec 26, 2020 at 11:48
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Stastny only got Dahlstrom + 4th

I guess Stepan is cheaper in terms of actual salary, but thats still crazy
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Dec 26, 2020 at 11:49
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I was like the **** is Melnyk feeling okay than I realized Stephan is only owed 2mill this season
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Dec 26, 2020 at 11:49
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..I don’t think Ottawa needed to do this at all. Don’t see a need for the move costing a 2nd when they’re just helping ARI


They trade Stephan at the deadline (retain salary) and get more value back is what im guessing
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Dec 26, 2020 at 11:49
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Ottawa is thinking that the Coyotes are going to waste the pick on another psychopath, so fair trade.
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Dec 26, 2020 at 11:50
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Wait the Sens only got Derek Stepan? The Second rounder went the OTHER way? Am I reading this right? I thought the Coyotes would have to pay to get rid of the guy.
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Dec 26, 2020 at 11:51
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I may be in the 1% here, but I think that Stepan will actually rebound and be a solid top 6 guy for the Sens.
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Dec 26, 2020 at 11:51
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Quoting: aadoyle
They trade Stephan at the deadline (retain salary) and get more value back is what im guessing


That’s a huge gamble - they’re hoping they can get value out of him and hoping he plays well. He’s a cap dump and will still cost 3m at TDL with retention. I don’t see this working out unless Stepan plays unreal - and it won’t be a top contender due to the cap
Dec 26, 2020 at 11:54
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Does Dorion actually think the Sens can compete this year? A move like this would make me believe he thinks they aren't going to finish dead last. There isn't any benefits for Ottawa in this trade. Trading futures for a guy who might help them not have a top 3 pick.
Dec 26, 2020 at 11:54
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Sens are the best Canadian NHL team. They will bring the Cup back to Canada.

Do something like the Habs did twice last year, trade (Scandella) or sign (Kolvie) a player than trade him again for a net profit.
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Dec 26, 2020 at 11:56
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Whoever voted Ottawa winning this trade, please explain yourself. I'd like to hear that mindset
Dec 26, 2020 at 11:57
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Sens are the best Canadian NHL team. They will bring the Cup back to Canada.


Melnyk is that you?
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Dec 26, 2020 at 11:58
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I'm pretty sure given the choice he'd have just taken coal for Christmas instead of the plane ticket to Ottawa
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Dec 27, 2020 at 12:00
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Quoting: TheNorthStar
Melnyk is that you?


Name another Canadian team close to a contending >? And do not mention the MakeYa Laughs.
Dec 27, 2020 at 12:00
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Quoting: TheWolfe
I'm pretty sure given the choice he'd have just taken coal for Christmas instead of the plane ticket to Ottawa


Ottawa's a nice city. Playing for the Senators is a different story.
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Dec 27, 2020 at 12:01
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Ottawa's a nice city. Playing for the Senators is a different story.


That was more or less what I meant though I don't think he'll appreciate his new income tax
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Dec 27, 2020 at 12:03
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That was more or less what I meant though I don't think he'll appreciate his new income tax


May need an accountant to get around the taxes. If he does well he can be shipped off to a number of teams so I don't think he's all that upset about the optics.
Dec 27, 2020 at 12:03
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Ottawa's ability to evaluate talent at the NHL level is the biggest question mark about this team's ability to build a cup team. They know how to draft and how to develop prospects but at the NHL they don't know what they're doing
Dec 27, 2020 at 12:05
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That’s a huge gamble - they’re hoping they can get value out of him and hoping he plays well. He’s a cap dump and will still cost 3m at TDL with retention. I don’t see this working out unless Stepan plays unreal - and it won’t be a top contender due to the cap


players who have struggles on other teams have sometimes shown better success with the Sens. Would not be surprised if he reaches 20 goals with them before the deadline. As for retention because its for a few months they wont care cause its the picks they are after.
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Dec 27, 2020 at 12:08
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Quoting: HabsForEver
Whoever voted Ottawa winning this trade, please explain yourself. I'd like to hear that mindset


Stepan is gonna rebound I bet
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Dec 27, 2020 at 12:17
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Stepan is gonna rebound I bet


Now the Blues have hope to trade Bozak for positive value. Because he isn't owed a lot, and is better at 5v5 in terms. So thank you for setting the market at a good amount.
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Dec 27, 2020 at 12:20
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Quoting: HabsForEver
Whoever voted Ottawa winning this trade, please explain yourself. I'd like to hear that mindset


It wasn't me, but I'll take a crack at it. Seems to me that OTT figures they have an abundance of prospects AND draft capital. So they took a flyer on a guy who has a decent chance of bouncing back and stabilizing their top 6 and probably flip at the deadline for a future asset.

That said, I voted ARI wins this one. They traded a guy who wasn't going to put them over the top and became cap compliant in the process while also getting a 2nd rounder for their trouble. A pick they BADLY need to help keep their prospect pool full.
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Dec 27, 2020 at 12:21
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Ottawa could certainly win this deal if they parlay Stepan into better assets than the late 2nd that they gave up. I got to give Armstrong credit, however, for actually dealing a full cap hit for value!
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