At least give him a change to play a game before you say the Leafs shouldn’t have signed him. Simmonds is a great addition to the organization and dressing room. He’ll throw his weight around, drop the gloves, fire up the bench and chip in with some points. Good add IMO

no way, I wouldn't have minded adding perry in addition to simmonds, but between the two I'd rather simmonds, even at the price premium

he's younger, has better offence, is arguably tougher etc.

This all day! I agree. Its a no brainer IMO.

I hope I'm wrong. I have nothing against him and will be glad if he proves me wrong but I'm just not optimistic after the past couple of seasons and his injury troubles

You have a point: Simmonds-Thornton-Spezza are as close to retirement as Perry.

Over the course of the last three seasons, Perry has played in 159 games and Simmonds in 147.

There are injury concerns for both players. Simmonds is younger, tougher, and chose to play in TO for less money than he could have got elsewhere.

Out of the two of them, Simmonds all day for this guy.

Didn’t Perry have similar analytics to Mark Stone during his prime? I’d have to assume he was better than Simmonds.

Perry is the better player and not even close. He actually knows how to get to the Stanley Cup finals

I don't think it matters much either way. I think Simmonds being healthy is better than Perry at this stage of their careers but it's not much of a difference.

yeah he did, but corey perry isn't his prime though, nor is simmonds, but 32 is younger than 35

The problem is that one still deserves to be in the NHL and it's not Simmonds

yes, because his 13 minutes of ice time and 2 goals in 21 games is why dallas got to the cup finals

really? both of them are still nhl players, but perry is older and has worse stats than simmonds over the last few years lol

Why does everybody on this site think that point production is the end all be all?

Both of them play in the NHL, they both don't DESERVE to play in the NHL. It's not all about points

because goals win hockey games lol. toughness etc. yes, but like, you can't tell me a 4th liner with 2 goals was integral to dallas' cup run. it was because they had great goaltending, their stars produced and they played amazing defence



he's a solid depth add, as is simmonds, but to act like perry is some clutch playoff king when he's 35 and has been declining for years is just delusional

Alright, I'll bite. Why doesn't Simmonds deserve to play in the NHL?

I never made any claims about him being some Clutch Playoff King. I'm talking about who the better player is. Perry is here to be a Taxi Squad player and on occasional, a 4th liner. Perry is the better player. Considering you have those graphs, go ahead and look at Simmonds graph

there's no stats for simmonds in the playoffs, he's been on garbage non-factor teams

they are both old, slow, and not what they once were

perry is older, slower, and further past his prime than simmonds

if perry was so good, why did the habs try to pay simmonds >$1.5M to get him on october 9th, then hem and haw all offseason and finally begrudgingly get perry for league min like 5 days before training camp?

Compare the stats in the regular season if you must. Considering that's the only thing we can go on.

They are both old and past their prime, Perry is older, but age isn't a direct correlation to regression or current skill.

The 4th thing is pretty stupid. If Hoffman was so good, why did the Blues try to pay simmonds >1.5M to get him on october 9th, then hem and haw all offseason and finally begrudgingly get Hoffman on a PTO like 5 days before training camp?

remembering the dallas was a cup contending team where perry got to play sheltered 4th line minutes and simmonds was on two dumpster fire teams playing overexposed minutes in the middle 6

also, i don't understand the hoffman thing. hoffman was being picky about his contract and where he wanted to go, no teams had cap space to give him $6+ million. He also has value, i.e. a 31 year old 30 goal scorer. He decided to wait around and finally now the blues are signing him to a 3.5-4.5 one year deal, but using a PTO to get LTIR cap relief etc. etc. and save some money.

the habs wanted a tough guy veteran, day 1 of free agency who did they beeline for? wayne simmonds, they even offered him north of $1.5 million to come to montreal. They were gonna overpay him because they wanted him that bad, a washed up 4th liner.

He took less money and came to toronto, and who was the habs' plan B? evidently not perry, otherwise you'd think they'd've signed him right away, no? they waited until right before camp before signing him to a league min nothing deal.

again, both are washed up and not nearly as good as they once were, but it's ironic that your team heavily favoured our guy over the guy you currently have right now

Why does the date the contract was signed matter? You're acting like Perry was just a lost puppy and was going to sign the first contract he received. Thornton also signed a league minimum contract so the $$$ doesn't matter. That point is flawed.

Yeah I honestly don't know why Bergevin would have any interest in Simmonds whatsoever, it's clear he doesn't have what he use to and it's not like he has a lot of cup experience. I'm happy we ended up with Perry over Simmonds.

How many minutes did Wayne Simmonds see during the Stanley Cup finals?