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Sid Geno and LeTang staying healthy you’re not asking for a lot are you?

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Dec. 30, 2020 at 3:28 p.m.

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Sid Geno and LeTang staying healthy you’re not asking for a lot are you?

Lol. It’s the only way any team wins!! Players staying healthy.

I’ll take 45-48 games from all 3 of them in a 58 season.

And good goalie play!! Jarry has to be consistent and prove he can do what he did last year, consistently, through-out a whole season as a #1 goalie.

Dec. 30, 2020 at 3:29 p.m.

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Lol. It’s the only way any team wins!! Players staying healthy.
When’s the last time not 1 of the 3 didn’t have a substantial inj
I’ll take 45-48 games from all 3 of them in a 58 season.

pitt playing 2 more games than every one else

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Dec. 30, 2020 at 3:31 p.m.

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pitt playing 2 more games than every one else

Ohh sorry. 56 game season. Thought it was 58.

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Dec. 30, 2020 at 3:32 p.m.

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Ohh sorry. 56 game season. Thought it was 58.

When was. The last time one of those three didn’t have a serious injury I’m not wishing this on them I’m just going by history

Dec. 30, 2020 at 3:33 p.m.

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Ohh sorry. 56 game season. Thought it was 58.

All good

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Dec. 30, 2020 at 3:34 p.m.

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Part of both Geno and Sids problem is they play so physical sometimes they hurt themselves

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Dec. 30, 2020 at 3:37 p.m.

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Part of both Geno and Sids problem is they play so physical sometimes they hurt themselves

I think with the time off and quarantine, most players are gonna come back in great shape. Atleast they should come back in the best shape of their career. A lot of NBA players have. There was nothing else for them to do but work-out. I know Crosby will cause he’s a gym rat. Hope Geno and Letang did the same.

Dec. 30, 2020 at 4:11 p.m.

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I think with the time off and quarantine, most players are gonna come back in great shape. Atleast they should come back in the best shape of their career. A lot of NBA players have. There was nothing else for them to do but work-out. I know Crosby will cause he’s a gym rat. Hope Geno and Letang did the same.

With that however they just seem to have this injury star writing above them through their whole career again I’m not rooting for this but it’s just history seems to repeat itself

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With that however they just seem to have this injury start writing above them through their whole career again I’m not rooting for this but it’s just history seems to repeat itself

??? U mean Letang does. ??

Sid and Geno have been gereanlly healthy. Like every other player. 2 or 3 seasons out of 14 and 15 year careers where they missed half the season. Geno only has one year of 31 and one year of 43 games. The rest of the seasons are 57 games plus. Most seasons in the 70s.

The same with Sid. Back to back seasons of 22 games and 36 games in 2010-11, and 11-12. And since then he’s played in the high 70’s and 80’s. Sid has been generally healthy too for a 15 year career.

Dec. 30, 2020 at 4:26 p.m.

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solid list you got there and for the most part i think i would of liked too see you give a trade or 2 to give it a look of your own but not bad

Dec. 30, 2020 at 4:28 p.m.

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??? U mean Letang does. ??

Sid and Geno have been gereanlly healthy. Like every other player. 2 or 3 seasons out of 14 and 15 year careers where they missed half the season. Geno only has one year of 31 and one year of 43 games. The rest of the seasons are 57 games plus. Most seasons in the 70s.
Missing 1/4 minutes f the season is substantial

The same with Sid. Back to back seasons of 22 games and 36 games in 2010-11, and 11-12. And since then he’s played in the high 70’s and 80’s. Sid has been generally healthy too for a 15 year career.

Dec. 30, 2020 at 5:54 p.m.

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Like I said, geno has had 2 seasons out of 14 where he he played 31 and 43 games. Half or less. 1 year of 57. The rest are in the high 60’s, 70’s and 80’s. He’s been generally healthy. So has Sid.

Yes, Letang, somewhat injury prone throughout his career. Sid and Geno. Ahh no, they haven’t been. Crosby has played 75 plus games in 10 out of 15 years. Has 3 years of 53 or less. And last year of 41. But last year should be wiped out for everyone.

Dec. 30, 2020 at 6:55 p.m.

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how are young guys going to develop?
What ice are they going to skate on. You can't even pond skate in canada without the nazi police showing up and threatening to tazer you.

I think the taxi squad will hold a few prospects at the very least.
What I do know, is that 3rd line is not good. The 4th line will do it's thing, but you are relying on the 1st and 2nd line to carry the team. That has not happened in a long time. They need help.

Dec. 30, 2020 at 7:06 p.m.

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how are young guys going to develop?
What ice are they going to skate on. You can't even pond skate in canada without the nazi police showing up and threatening to tazer you.

I think the taxi squad will hold a few prospects at the very least.
What I do know, is that 3rd line is not good. The 4th line will do it's thing, but you are relying on the 1st and 2nd line to carry the team. That has not happened in a long time. They need help.

Obviously u didn’t read my description.

PO-Jospeh, O’Connor, C.Lee make the practice squad. Get experience practicing and working out with the team. And watching NHL veterans, like a back-up QB. Poulin and Legare are both 19 years old. 1 more year. Unless Poulin is comfortable of the right-side and RW. You can’t force him up to a position he isn’t comfortable playing and let him learn in the NHL, at NHL speed and against NHL players. That would ruin his development. And Unless Legare makes an impression in camp and wins the 3rd line RW spot. But I’m excited to see E-Rod get his shot too.

And like I told u!! PO Jospeh gained 20-25 pounds of muscle. He is now 6’2-6’3, 185 pounds.

https://www.nhl.com/penguins/news/pittsburgh-penguins-defense-goalies-breakdown/c-319905950

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Obviously u didn’t read my description.

PO-Jospeh, O’Connor, C.Lee make the practice squad. Get experience practicing and working out with the team. And watching NHL veterans, like a back-up QB. Poulin and Legare are both 19 years old. 1 more year. Unless Poulin is comfortable of the right-side and RW. You can’t force him up to a position he isn’t comfortable playing and let him learn in the NHL, at NHL speed and against NHL players. That would ruin his development. And Unless Legare makes an impression in camp and wins the 3rd line RW spot. But I’m excited to see E-Rod get his shot too.

And like I told u!! PO Jospeh gained 20-25 pounds of muscle. He is now 6’2-6’3, 185 pounds.

https://www.nhl.com/penguins/news/pittsburgh-penguins-defense-goalies-breakdown/c-319905950

dude you don't develop playing hockey sitting and watching. You got to be on the ice. It's why places like TSN are reporting teams are going to use their taxi squads as development camps for their prospects. Because they can't get them on the ice any other way. With 6 man taxi squad I don't think it's that big of a deal to put 3-4 guys who need to develop on it.
But you got to get them on ice. If they sit they most likely regress.

As for as the link I wouldn't take those numbers to seriously. We know Poulin isn't 6'1 205 he's bigger than that. Much like a lot of other players on there like Lafferty is not 195lbs. I don't think anyone watching him play thinks he's 195lbs.

After all the same article " while Ceci is a simple, reliable player who plays a strong defensive game." in what univers is Ceci a "reliable player with a strong defensive game." The only way he's reliable is in the other team is going to score.
Not that it even matters POJ shouldn't play this year. Because they aren't sitting Dumo or Pettersson for him. And they need to play Matheson if they are to have any hopes of trading him to unload that contract.

Dec. 30, 2020 at 10:36 p.m.

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dude you don't develop playing hockey sitting and watching. You got to be on the ice. It's why places like TSN are reporting teams are going to use their taxi squads as development camps for their prospects. Because they can't get them on the ice any other way. With 6 man taxi squad I don't think it's that big of a deal to put 3-4 guys who need to develop on it.
But you got to get them on ice. If they sit they most likely regress.

As for as the link I wouldn't take those numbers to seriously. We know Poulin isn't 6'1 205 he's bigger than that. Much like a lot of other players on there like Lafferty is not 195lbs. I don't think anyone watching him play thinks he's 195lbs.

After all the same article " while Ceci is a simple, reliable player who plays a strong defensive game." in what univers is Ceci a "reliable player with a strong defensive game." The only way he's reliable is in the other team is going to score.
Not that it even matters POJ shouldn't play this year. Because they aren't sitting Dumo or Pettersson for him. And they need to play Matheson if they are to have any hopes of trading him to unload that contract.

Canada hockey is non contact. The AHL is great!! But playing in the NHL when u aren’t ready is the worst thing u can do to a young player.

And I agree with playing Matheson. The argument was PO-Joseph gets pushed around and off the puck and is far from NHL ready. That was your take. He’s very close to NHL ready and I’ve watched a lot of baby Pens games last year just to watch him. And never seen him pushed around and off the puck. And the Pens wouldn’t have put him on the play-off taxi squad last year if that was the case and he was that far away.

But PO-Jospeh, Cam lee, and O’Connor can learn and develop just as much practicing and working out with the team on the taxi-squad and watching. Again like a back-up QB. And playing some. Contributing to the NHL team on back-to-backs, rest days for players. And any injury call-ups.

Yes, Poulin and Legare at 19 years old need Ice time.

Dec. 30, 2020 at 10:46 p.m.

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Canada hockey is non contact. The AHL is great!! But playing in the NHL when u aren’t ready is the worst thing u can do to a young player.

And I agree with playing Matheson. The argument was PO-Joseph gets pushed around and off the puck and is far from NHL ready. That was your take. He’s very close to NHL ready and I’ve watched a lot of baby Pens games last year just to watch him. And never seen him pushed around and off the puck. And the Pens wouldn’t have put him on the play-off taxi squad last year if that was the case and he was that far away.

But PO-Jospeh, Cam lee, and O’Connor can learn and develop just as much practicing and working out with the team on the taxi-squad and watching. Again like a back-up QB. And playing some. Contributing to the NHL team on back-to-backs, rest days for players. And any injury call-ups.

Yes, Poulin and Legare at 19 years old need Ice time.

A. being on the taxi squad does not mean you play in the NHL. It means you have a place to practice.
B. the CHL is non contact. I mean really that's news to me. Especially considering they had to remove body checking in their COVID requirements this year before the season was ruined.
C. you realize Poulin and Legare whole thing is basically physical play right? Yeah I'm not worried about that with either player.
People over react about playing younger players in the NHL. The big issue with playing younger players in the NHL isn't about the player or the game. It's about their waiver requirements like Sprong.
But if you don't play them more than 9 games it's not an issue. In 9 games you should be able to see where they are and make that decision. It isn't going to "ruin" them.

Dec. 30, 2020 at 10:59 p.m.

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A. being on the taxi squad does not mean you play in the NHL. It means you have a place to practice.
B. the CHL is non contact. I mean really that's news to me. Especially considering they had to remove body checking in their COVID requirements this year before the season was ruined.
C. you realize Poulin and Legare whole thing is basically physical play right? Yeah I'm not worried about that with either player.
People over react about playing younger players in the NHL. The big issue with playing younger players in the NHL isn't about the player or the game. It's about their waiver requirements like Sprong.
But if you don't play them more than 9 games it's not an issue. In 9 games you should be able to see where they are and make that decision. It isn't going to "ruin" them.

Yes, I understand they are power forwards. Legare alittle more finesse and a great shot. But yes, a big body.

Ya, I said Canada is non contact. Would be bad for Poulin and Legare. It’s why LA doesnt want to see Byfeild there. He will dominant with no contact too. It ridiculous. Poulin and Legare would have to be loaned to Europe. Not old enough to play in the AHL.

Yes, I understand the taxi-squad. Practice, work-our, travel with the team. If an injury or something, u need called up, just like u are in the AHL. But no quarantine or anything. It’s why they have it.

But yes, they can practice, work-out and travel with the team. And again, any injury, they will be called up. Teams will be using it a lot with waiver exempt players too. Calling up and down for rest days and back to back games.

The Ice time isn’t as valuable to PO-Joseph, Cam lee. they are older and will learn a lot and grow from practicing, working out and being around NHL players. And O’Connor, I’m pretty sure is close to NHL ready too. Any player would benefit from the taxi-squad experience but yes, if they still are 19-20, I would say they need the Ice Time more.

Dec. 30, 2020 at 11:08 p.m.

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Yes, I understand they are power forwards. Legare alittle more finesse and a great shot. But yes, a big body.

Ya, I said Canada is non contact. Would be bad for Poulin and Legare. It’s why LA doesnt want to see Byfeild there. He will dominant with no contact too. It ridiculous. Poulin and Legare would have to be loaned to Europe. Not old enough to play in the AHL.

Yes, I understand the taxi-squad. Practice, work-our, travel with the team. If an injury or something, u need called up, just like u are in the AHL. But no quarantine or anything. It’s why they have it.

But yes, they can practice, work-out and travel with the team. And again, any injury, they will be called up. Teams will be using it a lot with waiver exempt players too. Calling up and down for rest days and back to back games.

The Ice time isn’t as valuable to PO-Joseph, Cam lee. they are older and will learn a lot and grow from practicing, working out and being around NHL players. And O’Connor, I’m pretty sure is close to NHL ready too. Any player would benefit from the taxi-squad experience but yes, if they still are 19-20, I would say they need the Ice Time more.

you can't send them to europe. This has already been established. Every single team dumped their players to Europe when their seasons started. Those who did not get in are simply out.
Some of the players who are over there, even if they have been invited to camp might not come back over. Like OConnor. I'm not sure they bring him back. He has a spot and ice time. With no AHL currently, I'm not sure they take that away if he leaves to come for camp. My guess is he might be staying there. If not before camp, after. Because it's a spot on the ice. And it makes it easier if he's not in the plans.

You can almost bet Poulin and Legare are on that taxi squad. There is no where else for them to skate. They can't skate anywhere in canada. They can't go to europe. I'm not sure how the AHL rule will work out even if there is no CHL. There is nothing. They taxi squad or sit and don't skate and regress.
This is why TSN is reporting these things. It's not just the penguins. Like every NHL team is having the same issues of what to do with their 1 year away guys. Sitting isn't really an option.

also body checking is allowed in the CHL. I don't know why you think it's not. It's only this year they removed it. They had to make a rule to remove it this year. It's not like the last years they weren't allowed to check.

Dec. 30, 2020 at 11:14 p.m.

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you can't send them to europe. This has already been established. Every single team dumped their players to Europe when their seasons started. Those who did not get in are simply out.
Some of the players who are over there, even if they have been invited to camp might not come back over. Like OConnor. I'm not sure they bring him back. He has a spot and ice time. With no AHL currently, I'm not sure they take that away if he leaves to come for camp. My guess is he might be staying there. If not before camp, after. Because it's a spot on the ice. And it makes it easier if he's not in the plans.

You can almost bet Poulin and Legare are on that taxi squad. There is no where else for them to skate. They can't skate anywhere in canada. They can't go to europe. I'm not sure how the AHL rule will work out even if there is no CHL. There is nothing. They taxi squad or sit and don't skate and regress.
This is why TSN is reporting these things. It's not just the penguins. Like every NHL team is having the same issues of what to do with their 1 year away guys. Sitting isn't really an option.

also body checking is allowed in the CHL. I don't know why you think it's not. It's only this year they removed it. They had to make a rule to remove it this year. It's not like the last years they weren't allowed to check.

AHL season starts Feb 5th.

No contact cause of COVID man. Google it.

https://www.si.com/hockey/news/does-a-bodychecking-ban-actually-reduce-covid-19-risk

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AHL season starts Feb 5th.

No contact cause of COVID man. Google it.

https://www.si.com/hockey/news/does-a-bodychecking-ban-actually-reduce-covid-19-risk

that's what i said no contact because of covid. what does that have to do with previous years. They all played with contact. It's not like jumping to the NHL is moving from non contact to contact.

I'd hold my breath on that AHL start. They have 0 revenue. No capital to run cleaning protocols etc... I know they gave a date. That doesn't mean you are going to see games. They just don't have resources like the NHL does to get that done. We'll see.

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that's what i said no contact because of covid. what does that have to do with previous years. They all played with contact. It's not like jumping to the NHL is moving from non contact to contact.

I'd hold my breath on that AHL start. They have 0 revenue. No capital to run cleaning protocols etc... I know they gave a date. That doesn't mean you are going to see games. They just don't have resources like the NHL does to get that done. We'll see.

Ya, that doesn’t help them. You started off saying “how are your young guys gonna develop??” What Ice are they gonna skate on..??

Read the description, O’Connor, C.Lee and PO-Joseph make the practice squad. Practice squad is 4-6 players. And has to hold a goalie. Pens will have a 23 man roster and can hold 5 players on the taxi/squad along with Legace at goalie. O’Connor, Angello, C.Lee, PO-Joseph are 4 of them on the taxi-squad. In my situation. Manisclaco wins the 3rd paring RHD. And Ceci and Riikola are scratches with Sceviour. And Lafferty on the 4th line until ZAR is back.

If Legare doesn’t win the 3rd line RW spot in camp( which I doubt with a 10 day camp and no pre-season games). Him and Poulin go overseas. I don’t understand why that’s done?? They can sign a contract with a ton of European teams. It’s not over.

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Ya, that doesn’t help them. You started off saying “how are your young guys gonna develop??” What Ice are they gonna skate on..??

Read the description, O’Connor, C.Lee and PO-Joseph make the practice squad. If Legare doesn’t win the 3rd line RW spot in camp( which I doubt with a 10 day camp and no pre-season games). Him and Poulin go overseas. I don’t understand why that’s done?? They can sign a contract with a ton of European teams. It’s not over.

I don't think you get the european thing. Like every team has tried to send players. There are simply no spots left. There was even an article on either TSN or Sportsnet saying this.
Every team that could send a guy, sent him. There are only so many spots. If they were going to send Legare, if they could have found a spot for him, he'd be there. Just like they sent OConnor. Who normally they wouldn't have sent. But they did. You can't just up and send every player there. It doesn't work that way. Their teams have guys. There are only so many open roles. They aren't going to sit their guys, their younger players, etc... to make room. Every hole over there is plugged. Unless teams are bringing guys back to the NHL long term, it's probably going to stay that way. So I don't see any spots really opening up and those that do, will have a lot of competition for that spot. Like the whole league. So you can't just send them to Europe. Otherwise they'd already have been there instead of sitting for weeks on end while the CHL is closed.

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