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Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
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Dec. 30, 2020 at 8:47 p.m.
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Well this is a terrible mess
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Dec. 30, 2020 at 8:48 p.m.
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Why would LA do that. His contract is horrible. They need young leaders. Not over bloated ego maniacs
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Dec. 30, 2020 at 8:55 p.m.
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Why would LA do that. His contract is horrible. They need young leaders. Not over bloated ego maniacs


Definitely not a troll
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Dec. 30, 2020 at 9:02 p.m.
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Why would LA do that. His contract is horrible. They need young leaders. Not over bloated ego maniacs


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Definitely not a troll


Right!! IMO Marner isn’t a #1 option or worthy of that “A” on his chest!! Anyone with leadership would give that “A” up to Throton this year!! You have to learn how to follow b4 u can lead!! Marner IS getting paid like a #1 option though!! (Tavaras or A.Matthews shouldn’t give up their “A” or “C”. They shouldn’t have to. Neither should Reilly, u need a defender with an “A” too.) Marner would gain much more respect by giving it up.
Dec. 30, 2020 at 9:05 p.m.
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Right!! IMO Marner isn’t a #1 option or worthy of that “A” on his chest!! Anyone with leadership would give that “A” up to Throton this year!! You have to learn how to follow b4 u can lead!! Marner IS getting paid like a #1 option though!!


Just a tired nonsensical line of thought. Just trolls looking for reasons to justify their want for the Leafs to fail.
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Dec. 30, 2020 at 9:06 p.m.
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Dec. 30, 2020 at 9:07 p.m.
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Quoting: LGR
Why would LA do that. His contract is horrible. They need young leaders. Not over bloated ego maniacs


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Right!! IMO Marner isn’t a #1 option or worthy of that “A” on his chest!! Anyone with leadership would give that “A” up to Throton this year!! You have to learn how to follow b4 u can lead!! Marner is getting paid like a #1 option though!!


Lol. This is the exact problem with this site. A guy has an "average" 5 game stretch during a play in round (really 1 bad game) and everyone says he's terrible and not worth his contract. Lol. He's still over a point per game player, plays defence and plays with heart. Everyone would try to get as much money as they can if they were in his spot (which is was mostly his agent's and dad's fault) so he can't be blamed as much for that either. But people on this site are jokes when they shame a guy like that. I get a good laugh outta every comment like this.

There's so much recency bias it's ridiculous. I look forward to August after Marner has another point per game year and good playoff run at throwing it right back in all your faces. Lmao.
Dec. 30, 2020 at 9:12 p.m.
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Lol. This is the exact problem with this site. A guy has an "average" 5 game stretch during a play in round (really 1 bad game) and everyone says he's terrible and not worth his contract. Lol. He's still over a point per game player, plays defence and plays with heart. Everyone would try to get as much money as they can if they were in his spot (which is was mostly his agent's and dad's fault) so he can't be blamed as much for that either. But people on this site are jokes when they shame a guy like that. I get a good laugh outta every comment like this.

There's so much recency bias it's ridiculous. I look forward to August after Marner has another point per game year and good playoff run at throwing it right back in all your faces. Lmao.


Not at all my man. I think he great. Just not a #1 option. Sorry if u Mis took that. Saying you’re not a #1 option or not a superstar isn’t a knock. Or I’m not trying to knock him. He’s just not in that tier. Matthews is!! I love watching Marner play!! Super skilled goal scorer!! Just not a #1 option worth 11M per year. And I bet leafs GM and workers would tell u, it’s been a problem with locker room leadership. They did a great job bringing in Throton, Simmons and Bogsaian this year though. It will make a big difference. I don’t even think it’s a lack of leadership. I think it’s a lack of veteran leadership. There is a difference. You need those respected veterans/adults in the locker room too..everyone can’t be the same age and peers!!

And u don’t think Marner should give Thornton that “A” this year?? You don’t think he would get more respect by doing that?? You don’t think that would show leadership??
Dec. 30, 2020 at 9:16 p.m.
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Dec. 30, 2020 at 9:16 p.m.
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Not at all my man. I think he great. Just not a #1 option. Sorry if u Mis took that. Saying you’re not a #1 option or not a superstar isn’t a knock. Or I’m not trying to knock him. He’s just not in that tier. Matthews is!! I love watching Marner play!! Super skilled goal scorer!! Just not a #1 option worth 11M per year. And I bet leafs GM and workers would tell u, it’s been a problem with locker room leadership. They did a great job bringing in Throton, Simmons and Bogsaian this year though. It will make a big difference. I don’t even think it’s a lack of leadership. I think it’s a lack of veteran leadership. There is a difference. You need those respected veterans/adults in the locker room too..everyone can’t be the same age and peers!!


You question his leadership yet he blocks 3 straight shots at the end of a playoff game against Boston to preserve a win. But yeah, a superstar laying his body down isn't leadership?
Marner's not a part of the problem at all. It's a joke how this site treats him. He's part of the reason why Tavares and Matthews get so many points. He runs the PP. he's more a part of the solution rather than the problem. & anyone that knows hockey would see that.
Dec. 30, 2020 at 9:16 p.m.
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You question his leadership yet he blocks 3 straight shots at the end of a playoff game against Boston to preserve a win. But yeah, a superstar laying his body down isn't leadership?
Marner's not a part of the problem at all. It's a joke how this site treats him. He's part of the reason why Tavares and Matthews get so many points. He runs the PP. he's more a part of the solution rather than the problem. & anyone that knows hockey would see that.


And u don’t think Marner should give Thornton that “A” this year?? You don’t think he would get more respect by doing that?? You don’t think that would show leadership??
Dec. 30, 2020 at 9:18 p.m.
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And u don’t think Marner should give Thornton that “A” this year?? You don’t think he would get more respect by doing that?? You don’t think that would show leadership??


And again, I’m a fan!! Just not a top tier superstar worth 11M per IMO. Not in that Matthews tier. You have to split hairs and be one of the best in the NHL to be in that tier. It’s not a knock. Or not meant to be.
Dec. 30, 2020 at 9:27 p.m.
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And u don’t think Marner should give Thornton that “A” this year?? You don’t think he would get more respect by doing that?? You don’t think that would show leadership??


Yes I agree man. Marner is a fantastic player who has the ability to take over games at his best, but the problem he’s not consistent enough. Too many times last season he wasn’t engaged. Just carelessly lost the puck & refuses to back check or retrieve pucks. Hopefully the presence of Thornton & Simmonds will change his mindset.
Dec. 30, 2020 at 9:29 p.m.
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You question his leadership yet he blocks 3 straight shots at the end of a playoff game against Boston to preserve a win. But yeah, a superstar laying his body down isn't leadership?
Marner's not a part of the problem at all. It's a joke how this site treats him. He's part of the reason why Tavares and Matthews get so many points. He runs the PP. he's more a part of the solution rather than the problem. & anyone that knows hockey would see that.

Dont act like there hasn't been numerous sources saying hes a baby. I dont blame him for getting a massive contract. I blame Dubas for being the little boy light weight that he is. I dont think you give a player in his situation (didn't even have arbitration) that kinda bread. He also didn't even commit all 8 possible years which would have made it at least a little more digestible
Dec. 30, 2020 at 9:29 p.m.
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Dont act like there hasn't been numerous sources saying hes a baby. I dont blame him for getting a massive contract. I blame Dubas for being the little boy light weight that he is. I dont think you give a player in his situation (didn't even have arbitration) that kinda bread. He also didn't even commit all 8 possible years which would have made it at least a little more digestible

I will add the only negotiating Dubas should be doing is with his spread sheet.
Dec. 30, 2020 at 9:41 p.m.
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And u don’t think Marner should give Thornton that “A” this year?? You don’t think he would get more respect by doing that?? You don’t think that would show leadership??


Absolutely not. Locker room stuff comes with maturity. Thornton is old, slow, and pretty much useless on the ice. If he didn't have the name and accolades from his prime (8-10 years ago), everyone would have been outraged by signing him.
Dec. 30, 2020 at 9:45 p.m.
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Absolutely not. Locker room stuff comes with maturity. Thornton is old, slow, and pretty much useless on the ice. If he didn't have the name and accolades from his prime (8-10 years ago), everyone would have been outraged by signing him.


Lol. Ok! and u are talking about dogging a player!!lol. Like I said, that’s the problem. Not lack of leadership. Lack of veteran leadership. They all can’t be the same age and peers. You’ll see how Kappy changes going to PGH and a locker room with Adults, that have families, won SC’s and are respected. Not a locker room full of young guys and his peers. Same way Kessel did. There is a difference.
Dec. 30, 2020 at 9:48 p.m.
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And u don’t think Marner should give Thornton that “A” this year?? You don’t think he would get more respect by doing that?? You don’t think that would show leadership??


Who gives a **** about the letter on the jersey. Thorton was stripped of his C years ago, does that mean he isn't a leader? What a stupid argument.
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Dec. 30, 2020 at 9:48 p.m.
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I will add the only negotiating Dubas should be doing is with his spread sheet.


Definitely not a troll here at all
Dec. 30, 2020 at 9:49 p.m.
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Absolutely not. Locker room stuff comes with maturity. Thornton is old, slow, and pretty much useless on the ice. If he didn't have the name and accolades from his prime (8-10 years ago), everyone would have been outraged by signing him.


That is a hot take.
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Dec. 30, 2020 at 9:50 p.m.
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Lol. Ok! and u are talking about dogging a player!!lol. Like I said, that’s the problem. Not lack of leadership. Lack of veteran leadership. They all can’t be the same age and peers. You’ll see how Kappy changes going to PGH and a locker room with Adults, that have families, won SC’s and are respected. Not a locker room full of young guys and his peers. Same way Kessel did. There is a difference.


He'll still be a bag of crap. Kapanen isn't Kessel, he's just a fast terrible dummy
Dec. 30, 2020 at 9:51 p.m.
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Who gives a **** about the letter on the jersey. Thorton was stripped of his C years ago, does that mean he isn't a leader? What a stupid argument.


It would show a whole lot of maturity and gain Marner respect by doing it. Sure the “A” and “C” matter in the locker room. You ever play organized Hockey?? It sure does matter.
Dec. 30, 2020 at 9:52 p.m.
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He'll still be a bag of crap. Kapanen isn't Kessel, he's just a fast terrible dummy


Definitely not a troll at all here!!
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Dec. 30, 2020 at 9:53 p.m.
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Lol. Ok! and u are talking about dogging a player!!lol. Like I said, that’s the problem. Not lack of leadership. Lack of veteran leadership. They all can’t be the same age and peers. You’ll see how Kappy changes going to PGH and a locker room with Adults, that have families, won SC’s and are respected. Not a locker room full of his peers. Same way Kessel did. There is a difference.


Lol. You talk about veteran leadership and dogging it and question Marner, then you bring Kapanen into it? The guy that was consistently late for practice because of sleeping in while in the NHL and AHL? That's on him. That's a maturity thing. That's on the individual. Wanna have vets to do whatever for that? Leafs brought in Brian Boyle for a playoff run. Kapanen still did that. And since when does age define leadership? Crosby, McDavid and Landeskog were all named captains of their team before they were even 20. Matthews was in the conversation to be named captain. Age doesn't define leadership. Matthews and Marner have been beasts on the ice and were rewarded for it with a letter.

Stop trying to hate on Marner just cause he's a Leaf. If he was anywhere else, he'd be praised. But he's the easy target on the biggest market team in the league. Don't always take the easy way out. Lmao.
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Dec. 30, 2020 at 9:58 p.m.
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Lol. You talk about veteran leadership and dogging it and question Marner, then you bring Kapanen into it? The guy that was consistently late for practice because of sleeping in while in the NHL and AHL? That's on him. That's a maturity thing. That's on the individual. Wanna have vets to do whatever for that? Leafs brought in Brian Boyle for a playoff run. Kapanen still did that. And since when does age define leadership? Crosby, McDavid and Landeskog were all named captains of their team before they were even 20. Matthews was in the conversation to be named captain. Age doesn't define leadership. Matthews and Marner have been beasts on the ice and were rewarded for it with a letter.

Stop trying to hate on Marner just cause he's a Leaf. If he was anywhere else, he'd be praised. But he's the easy target on the biggest market team in the league. Don't always take the easy way out. Lmao.


Again, I’m a Marner fan. Just not a top tier # 1 guy. Not a 12M per year guy.

And comparing Marner to Crosby, Landeskog, McDavid is as bad as Kappy to Kessel.

I never said anything about Kappy being a “A” or “C” either. I said he will change going into a older locker room. Not a younger locker room full of his peers.

And yes, age and experience does matter in leadership to. Again, u have to learn to follow b4 u can lead.

I think 99% of people that have played hockey would agree Marner would gain much respect in the locker room by giving his “A” to Thornton.
 
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