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If JT never came

Created by: dzad96
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 5, 2021
Published: Jan. 5, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
I think the team would be in better position without JT.

You either have: JT

OR

Kadri, some 4-5 mil D man (Gardiner maybe), and a 2-3 mil 3rd line center (Eakin maybe).

What would you rather have? I know what I'd rather have.
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Kadri, Nazem
COL
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
Additional Details:
Just reversing the Kadri trade because it never would have happened without JT.
2.
TOR
  1. 2021 7th round pick (SJS)
SJS
  1. Tavares, John
Additional Details:
I think SJ was second in the running, maybe not, doesn't matter for the sake of this.
3.
TOR
  1. Gardiner, Jake
Additional Details:
Would have had the cap to resign Gardiner. I think Dubas would have, but maybe not. If not Gardiner, some other 4-5 mil D guy.
CAR
  1. 2021 7th round pick (SJS)
4.
TOR
  1. Eakin, Cody
BUF
  1. Dermott, Travis
Additional Details:
Would have added some other 3rd line C the year they added Jt, either trade or free agency. Not necessarily Eakin but someone of his Caliber.
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2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
24$81,500,000$79,066,450$0$0$2,433,550
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
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UFA - 1
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Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
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Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
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Mikheyev, Ilya
$1,645,000$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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Kadri, Nazem
$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
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UFA - 2
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Nylander, William
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 4
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Vesey, Jimmy
$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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Eakin, Cody
$2,250,000$2,250,000
C
UFA - 2
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Simmonds, Wayne
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
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Thornton, Joe
$700,000$700,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
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Spezza, Jason
$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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Boyd, Travis
$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
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Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 4
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Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
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UFA - 2
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Holl, Justin
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
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Gardiner, Jake
$4,050,000$4,050,000
LD
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UFA - 3
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Bogosian, Zach
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Engvall, Pierre
$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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Waivers ExemptRobertson, Nicholas
$821,667$821,667
LW, RW
RFA - 4
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Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 2
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Lehtonen, Mikko
$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Jan. 5, 2021 at 12:46 p.m.
#26
dzad96
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Because it doesn't matter, and your argument is they could have signed someone. That isn't an argument, it's just the usual Kadri has grit so he's awesome nonsense that did us no good when we had him. Who could we have had, JT and we got him and he's a top 15 centre in the game and Dubas has put together a good roster around him and the core. Just stop this crap.


Oh no the no fun police are back. It's called having a discussion on a forum that is for discussing opinions and scenarios. You don't have to agree with it. Just don't look at it then? You sound like a child. "He has a different opinion than me now I'm mad!!!" Get a life.
Jan. 5, 2021 at 1:14 p.m.
#27
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Quoting: NTanger19
Id rather have the team rn than this team tbh


Quoting: RangerWall92
I'm taking JT all day


Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Got news for you, There's noway this team is any better then the current one.


Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
JT is definitely worth it. Who wants Kadri to take stupid penalties and suspensions in the playoffs anyways?


Quoting: dzad96
Swap Gardiner for someone else with similar cap like Tanev, put him on the second pair instead. Still no? I don't think JT is worth 6.5 more than Kadri is my main point here. I'd take Kadri and 6.5 mil in cap space flexibility over JT.


So this man would take:

Kadri ($4,500,000) - So he can play in roughly 1 playoff game per season.
Eakin ($2,300,000) - The 15 point center making 3 times more than Thornton, Spezza and Boyd.
Gardiner ($4,100,000) - The contract Carolina is already trying to dump and will likely have to buy out.

At $11,000,000 (with an average age of 30).

Over:

Tavares ($11,000,000)
Engvall ($1,200,000)
Dermott ($900,000)

At $13,000,000 (with an average age of 25).

Interesting.
Jan. 5, 2021 at 1:22 p.m.
#28
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Quoting: drewjenkins
So this man would take:

Kadri ($4,500,000) - So he can play in roughly 1 playoff game per season.
Eakin ($2,300,000) - The 15 point center making 3 times more than Thornton, Spezza and Boyd.
Gardiner ($4,100,000) - The contract Carolina is already trying to dump and will likely have to buy out.

At $11,000,000 (with an average age of 30).

Over:

Tavares ($11,000,000)
Engvall ($1,200,000)
Dermott ($900,000)

At $13,000,000 (with an average age of 25).

Interesting.


It is so dumb
Jan. 5, 2021 at 2:13 p.m.
#29
dzad96
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Quoting: drewjenkins
So this man would take:

Kadri ($4,500,000) - So he can play in roughly 1 playoff game per season.
Eakin ($2,300,000) - The 15 point center making 3 times more than Thornton, Spezza and Boyd.
Gardiner ($4,100,000) - The contract Carolina is already trying to dump and will likely have to buy out.

At $11,000,000 (with an average age of 30).

Over:

Tavares ($11,000,000)
Engvall ($1,200,000)
Dermott ($900,000)

At $13,000,000 (with an average age of 25).

Interesting.


Read all the comments in description and in the trades you knob. Doesn't have to be Gardiner and Eakin. Replace them with whoever you want. Point is Kadri + + instead of JT. A simple concept a couple of you morons can't wrap your head around.
Jan. 6, 2021 at 1:22 a.m.
#30
drewjenkins
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Quoting: dzad96
Read all the comments in description and in the trades you knob. Doesn't have to be Gardiner and Eakin. Replace them with whoever you want. Point is Kadri + + instead of JT. A simple concept a couple of you morons can't wrap your head around.


Yeye bro. You're 100% wrong though. Name calling won't fix your opinion.

The worst cap mis-management was Lou signing Marleau for 3 years ...
 
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