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Getting Good out of Weber pt 2

Created by: Yash97
Initial Creation Date: Jan 6, 2021
Published: Jan 6 at 12:40
Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Trades
MTL
  1. Gostisbehere, Shayne
  2. 2021 7th round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. Weber, Shea
Buyouts
  • Karl Alzner: $3,958,333
Buried
  • Jordan Weal: $325,000 ($1,400,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
MTL
MTL
TBL
MTL
CHI
WSH
MTL
STL
VGK
MTL
OTT
PHI
MTL
MTL
PHI
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
STL
2023
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$76,576,665$0$2,945,000$4,923,335
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MTL
Armia, Joel
$2,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
MTL
Danault, Phillip
$3,083,333
C
UFA - 1
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
$3,750,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW
UFA - 3
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
$863,333
C, RW
RFA - 2
MTL
Anderson, Josh
$5,500,000
RW
UFA - 7
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
MTL
Toffoli, Tyler
$4,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
MTL
Byron, Paul
$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$2,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
MTL
Perry, Corey
$750,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PHI
Gostisbehere, Shayne
$4,500,000
LD
UFA - 3
MTL
Petry, Jeff
$5,500,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
MTL
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
MTL
Edmundson, Joel
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 4
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Allen, Jake
$4,350,000
G
UFA - 1
MTL
Kulak, Brett
$1,850,000
LD
UFA - 2
MTL
Fleury, Cale
$771,666
RD
RFA - 1

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Jan 6 at 1:06
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That's GOOD!?!
Jan 6 at 1:20
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I don’t think I Philly does that trade not without a first going back to philly
Jan 6 at 1:53
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
I don’t think I Philly does that trade not without a first going back to philly


imagine thinking Weber is a capdump
crazy world we are living in
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Jan 6 at 1:58
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imagine thinking Weber is a capdump
crazy world we are living in


Imagine thinking Brent Burns is a cap dump.
In the flat cap a D man making 8 mil a season into age 40 is a dangerous thing. Plus Weber has been injury prone.
Jan 6 at 2:01
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Imagine thinking Brent Burns is a cap dump.
In the flat cap a D man making 8 mil a season into age 40 is a dangerous thing. Plus Weber has been injury prone.


Weber is still a #1 dman, + he is getting paid 6M next 2 seasons, after 3M one season and 3 years in a row at 1M. Is contract will be easy to move IF NEEDED. Plus the cap penalty if he retires goes to NSH. Two different scenario Burns and Weber
Jan 6 at 2:06
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Weber is still a #1 dman, + he is getting paid 6M next 2 seasons, after 3M one season and 3 years in a row at 1M. Is contract will be easy to move IF NEEDED. Plus the cap penalty if he retires goes to NSH. Two different scenario Burns and Weber

Not really Burns last 3 years are 6m 5m and 4.5 m but his cap hit is still 8 just like Webber
Jan 6 at 2:09
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Not really Burns last 3 years are 6m 5m and 4.5 m but his cap hit is still 8 just like Webber


Big difference, for a team wanting to reach the cap floor and not paying big bucks + getting an excellent veteran, it’s tempting. But Weber would probably just retired in that case and no money against the caphit. Win-win situation, Burns is getting paid 6-5-4.5M like you said, far from 1M
Jan 6 at 2:14
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Big difference, for a team wanting to reach the cap floor and not paying big bucks + getting an excellent veteran, it’s tempting. But Weber would probably just retired in that case and no money against the caphit. Win-win situation, Burns is getting paid 6-5-4.5M like you said, far from 1M


Yea I see your point looks like the contract was set up for him to retire in the last 3/4 years. I still don’t think Webber is top 2 D or elite anymore, but he is still top 4. But this trade still doesn’t make sense philly isn’t looking to get a cheap player with a huge cap hit to reach the floor look at the teams struggling financially and they would swap an expensive guy for Webber.
Jan 6 at 2:48
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Yea I see your point looks like the contract was set up for him to retire in the last 3/4 years. I still don’t think Webber is top 2 D or elite anymore, but he is still top 4. But this trade still doesn’t make sense philly isn’t looking to get a cheap player with a huge cap hit to reach the floor look at the teams struggling financially and they would swap an expensive guy for Webber.


Trading Weber is unrealistic so I dont care about the trade, this is horrible for us. But you need to watch some Habs game before calling Weber a top4, it's a pretty big insult because he is playing great
Jan 6 at 8:50
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Yea I see your point looks like the contract was set up for him to retire in the last 3/4 years. I still don’t think Webber is top 2 D or elite anymore, but he is still top 4. But this trade still doesn’t make sense philly isn’t looking to get a cheap player with a huge cap hit to reach the floor look at the teams struggling financially and they would swap an expensive guy for Webber.


This may be one of the most ridiculous comments i've seen in a while. give it a solid 0 chance that Weber is dealt, habs are perfectly fine paying him to be their top Dman.
Jan 6 at 5:15
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Quoting: habs_need_Scoring
This may be one of the most ridiculous comments i've seen in a while. give it a solid 0 chance that Weber is dealt, habs are perfectly fine paying him to be their top Dman.


36 signed for 6 more years at a cap hit of just under 8 mil, it’s been 4 seasons since he’s played more than 70 games in a season and at this point in his career he’s only going to get slower and more injury prone. not saying he won’t have a top caliber season in there somewhere I’m saying I would not depend on it and he should no longer be a #1 D man. On any given year for the next 4 years he will be 2-4D man and in the last two of his deal he will be more like a 5/6 D man.
Im not trying to demean him I’m only saying what I feel is logical. At the end of the day I don’t care about either franchise I just like playing GM
 
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