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PLD coming

Created by: Ansabch12
Initial Creation Date: Jan 6, 2021
Published: Jan 7 at 4:14
Team: 2020-21 Calgary Flames
Team Explanation
Im not sure how valuable Dean Kukan is but it seems like a fair trade to me.
Trades
CGY
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc
  2. Kukan, Dean
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. Monahan, Sean
  2. Kylington, Oliver
  3. Zavgorodny, Dmitri
  4. 2021 1st round pick (CGY)
Buyouts
  • Troy Brouwer: $1,500,000
  • Michael Stone: $1,166,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • David Rittich: $1,375,000 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
CGY
CGY
EDM
CGY
CGY
CGY
2022
CGY
CGY
CBJ
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
2023
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$81,464,166$0$457,500$35,834

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
CGY
Gaudreau, Johnny
$6,750,000
LW
UFA - 2
CBJ
Dubois, Pierre-Luc
$5,000,000
C
RFA - 2
CGY
Dubé, Dillon
$778,333
RW, LW
RFA - 1
CGY
Tkachuk, Matthew
$7,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
CGY
Backlund, Mikael
$5,350,000
C
NTC
UFA - 4
CGY
Lindholm, Elias
$4,850,000
RW, C
UFA - 4
CGY
Mangiapane, Andrew
$2,425,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
CGY
Bennett, Sam
$2,550,000
LW, C, RW
RFA - 1
CGY
Leivo, Josh
$875,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
CGY
Lucic, Milan
$5,250,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 3
CGY
Ryan, Derek
$3,125,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
CGY
Simon, Dominik
$700,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
CGY
Giordano, Mark
$6,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
CGY
Andersson, Rasmus
$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 6
CGY
Markström, Jacob
$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
CGY
Hanifin, Noah
$4,950,000
LD
UFA - 4
CGY
Tanev, Christopher
$4,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 4
CGY
Rittich, David
$1,375,000
G
UFA - 1
CGY
Välimäki, Juuso
$894,166
LD
RFA - 1
CBJ
Kukan, Dean
$1,650,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
CGY
Nesterov, Nikita
$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
CGY
Nordström, Joakim
$700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
CGY
Rinaldo, Zac
$700,000
LW
UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Tkachuk, M.
Dubois, P.
Lindholm, E.
Gaudreau, J.
Andersson, R.
Power Play 2
Leivo, J.
Backlund, M.
Mangiapane, A.
Giordano, M.
Dubé, D.
Penalty Kill 1
Backlund, M.
Ryan, D.
Giordano, M.
Tanev, C.
Penalty Kill 2
Lindholm, E.
Leivo, J.
Välimäki, J.
Andersson, R.

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Jan 7 at 4:39
#1
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It’s not fair tho
Jan 7 at 4:44
#2
theleano1
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if you take out the CBJ 2nd then they think about it
Jan 7 at 5:41
#3
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Quoting: GMs
It’s not fair tho


Please explain
Jan 7 at 5:44
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Quoting: Ansabch12
Please explain


The difference between PLD and Monahan is way bigger than a 2021 1st and a 2022 2nd rd pick
Jan 7 at 6:56
#5
Thread Starter
Flames
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 307
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Quoting: GMs
The difference between PLD and Monahan is way bigger than a 2021 1st and a 2022 2nd rd pick


For starters, "way bigger" is just flat out wrong its close enough that this would be a starting point for a deal. Monahan has 3 years left at 6.3 mil while entering his prime and Dubois has a higher ceiling but is only signed for 2 years. Dubois' career high in points is 61 points while Monahan has put up 82 pts in 78 games. Now I understand that Monahan doesnt command the same value as Dubois but I think people especially on this site underestimate Monahan, after 1 down year in a season where we had a major coaching scandal and a pandemic that shut down the season. Every year Monahan has gotten better and has put up 20+ goals every season since he was a rookie. The difference between the two isn't so large that the Flames would throw in a blue chip prospect, but it is large enough to warrant a 1st round pick and a solid prospect like Zavgorodny and a good young defenceman like Kylington.
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Jan 7 at 8:30
#6
Joined: Oct 2019
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Likes: 494
Quoting: Ansabch12
For starters, "way bigger" is just flat out wrong its close enough that this would be a starting point for a deal. Monahan has 3 years left at 6.3 mil while entering his prime and Dubois has a higher ceiling but is only signed for 2 years. Dubois' career high in points is 61 points while Monahan has put up 82 pts in 78 games. Now I understand that Monahan doesnt command the same value as Dubois but I think people especially on this site underestimate Monahan, after 1 down year in a season where we had a major coaching scandal and a pandemic that shut down the season. Every year Monahan has gotten better and has put up 20+ goals every season since he was a rookie. The difference between the two isn't so large that the Flames would throw in a blue chip prospect, but it is large enough to warrant a 1st round pick and a solid prospect like Zavgorodny and a good young defenceman like Kylington.


partly true but ya PLD has one less year but he is an RFA and Monahan isn't.
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Jan 7 at 8:35
#7
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Quoting: Ansabch12
For starters, "way bigger" is just flat out wrong its close enough that this would be a starting point for a deal. Monahan has 3 years left at 6.3 mil while entering his prime and Dubois has a higher ceiling but is only signed for 2 years. Dubois' career high in points is 61 points while Monahan has put up 82 pts in 78 games. Now I understand that Monahan doesnt command the same value as Dubois but I think people especially on this site underestimate Monahan, after 1 down year in a season where we had a major coaching scandal and a pandemic that shut down the season. Every year Monahan has gotten better and has put up 20+ goals every season since he was a rookie. The difference between the two isn't so large that the Flames would throw in a blue chip prospect, but it is large enough to warrant a 1st round pick and a solid prospect like Zavgorodny and a good young defenceman like Kylington.


Pretty good breakdown of your thought process and I agree on this.


Quoting: Ryancnbb
partly true but ya PLD has one less year but he is an RFA and Monahan isn't.


CBJ will have plenty of opportunities to resign him in the span of his contract.

The value in this trade seems to be there.
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