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Apparently there is some loophole where leafs could spend 5m over at the TDL

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Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 7, 2021
Published: Jan. 7, 2021
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Source: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/thoughts-maple-leafs-heading-nhls-short-2021-season/

(yes I know this is unrealistic)
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Hall, Taylor ($4,000,000 retained)
  2. Mittelstadt, Casey
BUF
  1. Abramov, Mikhail
  2. Hirvonen, Roni [Reserve List]
  3. Korshkov, Yegor
  4. 2021 1st round pick (TOR)
  5. 2022 3rd round pick (TOR)
  6. 2023 3rd round pick (TOR)
2.
FLA
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (TOR)
  3. 2022 4th round pick (TOR)
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2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$82,195,533$0$0-$695,533
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$0$0
LW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
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$821,667$821,667
LW, RW
RFA - 4
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 4
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$1,645,000$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$700,000$700,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$874,125$874,125
LW, C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Florida Panthers
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$874,125$874,125
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$900,000$900,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000 ($175,000$175K$175,000$175K)
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$894,167$894,167 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000 ($0$0$0$0)
G
UFA - 1

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Jan. 7, 2021 at 9:44 p.m.
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It's not really a loophole, it's just accrued cap space.
Jan. 7, 2021 at 9:51 p.m.
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You make sound like only the Leafs can get this 5m "present." That is one terrible trade just to acquire the middling to good Hall for half a season and bare NHLer Mittlestaat
Jan. 7, 2021 at 9:55 p.m.
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I am so tired of seeing Holl for Weegar, just keep Holl who is cheap and effective.
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Jan. 7, 2021 at 9:58 p.m.
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You make sound like only the Leafs can get this 5m "present." That is one terrible trade just to acquire the middling to good Hall for half a season and bare NHLer Mittlestaat


Not only the Leafs can but it certainly helps them. I don't think Hall is "middling", he's two seasons removed from a hart trophy.
Jan. 7, 2021 at 10:13 p.m.
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If you want to calculate it yourself do it like this (basically I don't want to calculate it but I can give you the outline of how to easily):

Step 1 - Divide the cap ceiling (81.5M) by the numbers of days in this season (January 13th to April something). *this is the maximum cap you can spend per day*
Step 2 - Divide the teams cap post camp roster (or what you expect it to be) by the number of days in the season. *this is the cap your team is paying per day*
Step 3 - Subtract your teams "cap per day" from the "maximum cap per day." *this will give you the amount of cap space you accrue per day*
Step 4 - Take the "accrued cap per day" from Step 3 and multiply it by the amount of days until the Trade Deadline. *this will give you the total accrued cap space by the TDL*

This will give your total accrued cap space by the TDL
*should be noted that this assumes zero injuries and zero roster changes
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Jan. 7, 2021 at 10:22 p.m.
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I'll play along with your situation. I'd rather keep Mittelstadt with Buffalo and instead of all those pieces coming back, I'll ask for Sandin and one of Abramov or Hirvonen. Maybe also a conditional pick based off the Leafs' performance in the playoffs. Say a 3rd that becomes a 2nd if they reach quarters, and a 1st if they reach cup finals
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Jan. 7, 2021 at 10:31 p.m.
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That Buffalo trade is awful
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Jan. 7, 2021 at 10:33 p.m.
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I'll play along with your situation. I'd rather keep Mittelstadt with Buffalo and instead of all those pieces coming back, I'll ask for Sandin and one of Abramov or Hirvonen. Maybe also a conditional pick based off the Leafs' performance in the playoffs. Say a 3rd that becomes a 2nd if they reach quarters, and a 1st if they reach cup finals


Bruh what... sandin and hirvonen?? Hall didn’t cost that much during the middle of the season last year, why would he cost that much at the TDL on an expiring contract. Dubas would be fired for even considering that
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Jan. 7, 2021 at 10:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
If you want to calculate it yourself do it like this (basically I don't want to calculate it but I can give you the outline of how to easily):

Step 1 - Divide the cap ceiling (81.5M) by the numbers of days in this season (January 13th to April something). *this is the maximum cap you can spend per day*
Step 2 - Divide the teams cap post camp roster (or what you expect it to be) by the number of days in the season. *this is the cap your team is paying per day*
Step 3 - Subtract your teams "cap per day" from the "maximum cap per day." *this will give you the amount of cap space you accrue per day*
Step 4 - Take the "accrued cap per day" from Step 3 and multiply it by the amount of days until the Trade Deadline. *this will give you the total accrued cap space by the TDL*

This will give your total accrued cap space by the TDL
*should be noted that this assumes zero injuries and zero roster changes


Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
If you want to calculate it yourself do it like this (basically I don't want to calculate it but I can give you the outline of how to easily):

Step 1 - Divide the cap ceiling (81.5M) by the numbers of days in this season (January 13th to April something). *this is the maximum cap you can spend per day*
Step 2 - Divide the teams cap post camp roster (or what you expect it to be) by the number of days in the season. *this is the cap your team is paying per day*
Step 3 - Subtract your teams "cap per day" from the "maximum cap per day." *this will give you the amount of cap space you accrue per day*
Step 4 - Take the "accrued cap per day" from Step 3 and multiply it by the amount of days until the Trade Deadline. *this will give you the total accrued cap space by the TDL*

This will give your total accrued cap space by the TDL
*should be noted that this assumes zero injuries and zero roster changes


How tf do u know this loll
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Jan. 7, 2021 at 10:36 p.m.
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How tf do u know this loll


I looked in to on how accrued cap space works last year.
Jan. 7, 2021 at 10:41 p.m.
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I am so tired of seeing Holl for Weegar, just keep Holl who is cheap and effective.


Plus it’ll cost more than that to upgrade Holl to Weeger
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Jan. 7, 2021 at 10:43 p.m.
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Tbh the value on that trade is pretty good.

Hall = 1st + Hirvonen + 3rd
Casey = Abramov + Korchkov + a 3rd

Issue is; leafs don’t need hall. In a vacuum trade looks decent though
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Jan. 7, 2021 at 10:45 p.m.
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Plus it’ll cost more than that to upgrade Holl to Weeger


It's hardly an upgrade. Holl was really good with Muzzin
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Jan. 7, 2021 at 10:50 p.m.
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Seems good, I guess.
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Jan. 7, 2021 at 10:51 p.m.
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Quoting: mhockey91
Tbh the value on that trade is pretty good.

Hall = 1st + Hirvonen + 3rd
Casey = Abramov + Korchkov + a 3rd

Issue is; leafs don’t need hall. In a vacuum trade looks decent though


Arizona certainly are regretting trading for Hall. Coyotes got worse with him. Can't see Hall being a difference maker at all.
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Jan. 7, 2021 at 11:02 p.m.
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Arizona certainly are regretting trading for Hall. Coyotes got worse with him. Can't see Hall being a difference maker at all.


If he’s lighting it up in Buffalo but they’re still out of a playoff spot, you will see him get traded for a nice package. After all he absolutely carried his team in 2017/18. The talent is there
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Jan. 7, 2021 at 11:04 p.m.
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It's hardly an upgrade. Holl was really good with Muzzin


Some leafs fans like yourself:
“Holl is a good top 4 D”

Leafs haters:
“Holl is a 6/7th D”

In reality:
Holl is a bottom pairing D but paired with Muzzin he’s a fine #4.

weeger is a clear upgrade. There is absolutely no debate about that.
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Jan. 7, 2021 at 11:14 p.m.
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You make sound like only the Leafs can get this 5m "present." That is one terrible trade just to acquire the middling to good Hall for half a season and bare NHLer Mittlestaat


You make it sound like Buffalo would have any interest in that pile of crap lol. They be pushing for their own playoff run anyway
Jan. 7, 2021 at 11:15 p.m.
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Quoting: mhockey91
Some leafs fans like yourself:
“Holl is a good top 4 D”

Leafs haters:
“Holl is a 6/7th D”

In reality:
Holl is a bottom pairing D but paired with Muzzin he’s a fine #4.

weeger is a clear upgrade. There is absolutely no debate about that.


This debate is just hands down stupid. Holl costs the Leafs nothing and with Muzzin he was a very good shutdown, Big, Right Handed defenceman, who can skate very well, handle the puck, and pass well enough. At 2 million, he is also cheap. Getting Weegar will cost assets and what we would hope is he finds equal chemistry with Muzzin to be exactly what Holl is right now. So why even bother? Weegar isn't an all-star, he isn't overly big either. He's just another IT player on this site, sure he's a good hockey player but he doesn't move the needle anymore than Holl, he would be a complimentary piece, nothing more.
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Jan. 7, 2021 at 11:15 p.m.
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I honestly dont know what we get at the deadline cause we got wing depth, center depth, and even defense and goalie depth.

Really only thing I can see is maybe Demers from arizona with retention or something but really they have no need for anything
Jan. 7, 2021 at 11:16 p.m.
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You make it sound like Buffalo would have any interest in that pile of crap lol. They be pushing for their own playoff run anyway


Not in their division they won't be. Which is unfortunate. How unlucky it is for them to go from one tough division to another with even more good teams.
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Jan. 7, 2021 at 11:17 p.m.
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I honestly dont know what we get at the deadline cause we got wing depth, center depth, and even defense and goalie depth.

Really only thing I can see is maybe Demers from arizona with retention or something but really they have no need for anything


I suppose if we are rolling big time, maybe going for a big gun like Hall would make some sense but I agree, I just don't see a lot of need. Injuries though could force the hand.
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Jan. 7, 2021 at 11:25 p.m.
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Not in their division they won't be. Which is unfortunate. How unlucky it is for them to go from one tough division to another with even more good teams.


Sabres will finish 4th in their division. They are highly under rated
Jan. 7, 2021 at 11:25 p.m.
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Sabres will finish 4th in their division. They are highly under rated


Ahead of who?
Jan. 7, 2021 at 11:30 p.m.
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Ahead of who?


I would guess Pitt, NYI, NYR, NJD, could be Boston as well with Pasta out for the start of the year then hes going to be months behind the rest of the league that is already warmed up and going
 
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