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Creating Dubois trades that make sense

Created by: Jacketsman61
Initial Creation Date: Jan 6, 2021
Published: Jan 7 at 11:50
Team: 2020-21 Columbus Blue Jackets
Team Explanation
These three teams I believe are the only teams that have legit shot of landing Dubois. Each team has players that would interest the Jackets and be able to fill the holes.

The Winnipeg deal has been put on here many times and from a value standpoint it is even. However, not sure Dubois wants to stay long term in Winnipeg as it would be counter productive to his request to be in a bigger city.

Ottawa trade would be steep but for them getting Dubois who still has four years of team would be huge but I think this would be the package from Ottawa that would make it work. White would fill a roster spot and Norris could be an attractive future center.

The Montreal trade is the most likely of the trades. It fits what Dubois is looking for and he would right at home in Montreal. The package would be very appealing to the Jackets as they would get Danault who would be a perfect 2C and is defensively sound which would be perfect for Torts who would increase his ice time and be favored in matchup situations. Caufield would be the real jewel to this trade as the Jackets get a stud winger who will be NHL ready sooner than later.
Trades
CBJ
  1. Laine, Patrik
  2. Roslovic, Jack [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
I know real original but it is the most likely trade from this team
WPG
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc
CBJ
  1. White, Colin
  2. Norris, Joshua
  3. Bernard-Docker, Jacob [Reserve List]
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (SJS)
Additional Details:
It would be a steep price but considering Ottawa has a lot of assets they could afford this a would make them a prime candidate to land Dubois.
OTT
    CBJ
    1. Danault, Phillip
    2. Caufield, Cole [Reserve List]
    3. Struble, Jayden [Reserve List]
    4. 2021 2nd round pick (TBL)
    MTL
      Buyouts
      • Scott Hartnell: $1,250,000
      • Alexander Wennberg: $441,667
      Retained Salary Transactions
      • Nick Foligno: $2,750,000 (50%)
      • David Savard: $2,125,000 (50%)
      DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
      2021
      CBJ
      SJS
      TBL
      CBJ
      CBJ
      CBJ
      NJD
      CBJ
      CBJ
      2022
      CBJ
      CBJ
      CBJ
      CBJ
      CBJ
      CBJ
      ANA
      2023
      CBJ
      CBJ
      CBJ
      CBJ
      CBJ
      CBJ
      CBJ
      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
      26$81,500,000$83,589,958$0$1,100,000-$2,089,958
      Left WingCenterRight Wing
      CBJ
      Foligno, Nick
      $1,375,000
      LW, C, RW
      NMC NTC
      UFA - 1
      CBJ
      Dubinsky, Brandon
      $5,850,000
      C, LW
      NMC NTC
      UFA - 1
      CBJ
      Atkinson, Cam
      $5,875,000
      RW, LW
      NTC
      UFA - 5
      CBJ
      Robinson, Eric
      $975,000
      LW
      UFA - 2
      CBJ
      Domi, Max
      $5,300,000
      C, LW
      UFA - 2
      CBJ
      Nyquist, Gustav
      $5,500,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 3
      CBJ
      Gerbe, Nathan
      $750,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 2
      CBJ
      Jenner, Boone
      $3,750,000
      C, LW
      UFA - 2
      CBJ
      Bjorkstrand, Oliver
      $2,500,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 1
      WPG
      Laine, Patrik
      $4,995,000
      LW, RW
      RFA - 1
      CBJ
      Nash, Riley
      $2,750,000
      C, RW
      UFA - 1
      CBJ
      Stenlund, Kevin
      $874,125
      RW, C
      RFA - 1
      CBJ
      Koivu, Mikko
      $1,500,000
      C
      NMC
      UFA - 1
      OTT
      White, Colin
      $4,750,000
      RW, C
      UFA - 5
      CBJ
      Grigorenko, Mikhail
      $1,200,000
      C, LW
      UFA - 1
      OTT
      Norris, Joshua
      $925,000
      C
      RFA - 2
      MTL
      Danault, Phillip
      $3,083,333
      C
      UFA - 1
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      CBJ
      Werenski, Zachary
      $5,000,000
      LD
      RFA - 2
      CBJ
      Jones, Seth
      $5,400,000
      RD
      NTC
      UFA - 2
      CBJ
      Merzlikins, Elvis
      $4,000,000
      G
      UFA - 2
      CBJ
      Gavrikov, Vladislav
      $2,800,000
      LD
      UFA - 3
      CBJ
      Savard, David
      $1,062,500
      RD
      UFA - 1
      CBJ
      Korpisalo, Joonas
      $2,800,000
      G
      UFA - 2
      CBJ
      Harrington, Scott
      $1,633,333
      LD
      UFA - 2
      CBJ
      Kukan, Dean
      $1,650,000
      RD
      UFA - 2
      CBJ
      Carlsson, Gabriel
      $725,000
      LD
      RFA - 2

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      Jan 7 at 11:57
      #1
      Joined: Jul 2019
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      Fair trade for MTL, the only thing is we will be stock with 3 young Centers in Dubois Suzuki Kotkaniemi ...
      Jan 7 at 11:58
      #2
      Zuke is the goat
      Joined: May 2017
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      Thats too much from MTL... Maybe if Dubois was an established 70 pts C but he's only had one season over 60 pts (i know hes 22). What Im trying to say is that giving up Danault extended (28 yo) and whos a 50pts+ elite defensive C who will be loved by his coach, Caufield who's got great chances of becoming a 30 goals/60pts+ kinda guy and Struble who's honestly the most underrated prospect that we have (the kid's got it all tbh), simply isnt worth it then (even for a local kid like Dubois).

      I think considering the situation CLB is in (in terms of competing for a Stanley cup), replacing Caufield with Tatar would be much more fair and would actually work money wise for MTL. OR I saw some trades earlier in which Danault, Guhle and a first were offered. Considering our amazing depth of defensemen prospects and our pile of picks in the last few draft, we could definitely make that kind of trade.
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      Jan 7 at 11:58
      #3
      imawesome
      Joined: Jun 2018
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      Quoting: GMs
      Fair trade for MTL, the only thing is we will be stock with 3 young Centers in Dubois Suzuki Kotkaniemi ...


      Yeah but it's looking like a possibility that Kotkaniemi might never be better than a good 3rd liner or bad 2nd liner
      Jan 8 at 12:01
      #4
      Zuke is the goat
      Joined: May 2017
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      Also, looking at that OTT offer, how is that a great offer if compare to MTL? Norris is an enticing piece but is at max equal to Caufield or even less attractive to CLB and there is no player on Danault's level coming from OTT.
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      Jan 8 at 12:02
      #5
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      Quoting: imawesome
      Yeah but it's looking like a possibility that Kotkaniemi might never be better than a good 3rd liner or bad 2nd liner


      Right now in training camp he is the best player ... Draisaitl at 19-20 yo did 9 points, you are throwing the towel really quick on KK, who’s only 20 yo
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      Jan 8 at 12:03
      #6
      imawesome
      Joined: Jun 2018
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      Quoting: GMs
      Right now in training camp he is the best player ... Draisaitl at 19-20 yo did 9 points, you are throwing the towel really quick on KK, who’s only 20 yo


      That's why I said possibility. He could still be really good
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      Jan 8 at 12:03
      #7
      Zuke is the goat
      Joined: May 2017
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      Quoting: GMs
      Right now in training camp he is the best player ... Draisaitl at 19-20 yo did 9 points, you are throwing the towel really quick on KK, who’s only 20 yo


      I wouldnt take those kind of comments too seriously...
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      Jan 8 at 12:59
      #8
      AHHHH OUAIS
      Joined: May 2019
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      i love pld but if we could avoid trading our only RHD prospect who looks to have some kind of upside id rather that
      Jan 8 at 1:14
      #9
      Jetsfan
      Joined: Sep 2017
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      Winnipeg will be trading Laine next offseason. If Dubois is available then, a trade could happen but it sure won't be WPG adding to the trade
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      Jan 8 at 1:37
      #10
      PittsburghModelMyAss
      Joined: Aug 2020
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      Quoting: GMs
      Right now in training camp he is the best player ... Draisaitl at 19-20 yo did 9 points, you are throwing the towel really quick on KK, who’s only 20 yo


      idk where you're getting this intel about him being their best player in camp... but yes you are right he is still only 20 so realistically, NOW is his time to start making improvements. After all, Barkov went 28G-31A=59pts in 66 games in his 20-21yr old season. So if KK is at all the player you say he is, those numbers are what we shld expect tbh
      Jan 8 at 10:18
      #11
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      I could see Chicago making a play for PLD.
      Jan 8 at 10:20
      #12
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      Quoting: GMs
      Right now in training camp he is the best player ... Draisaitl at 19-20 yo did 9 points, you are throwing the towel really quick on KK, who’s only 20 yo


      Draisaitl at 19/20 scored 19 goals and 51 points.
      Jan 8 at 8:44
      #13
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      Quoting: CD282
      Draisaitl at 19/20 scored 19 goals and 51 points.


      So at 18-19 he scord 9 points ?
      Jan 9 at 2:33
      #14
      Joined: Sep 2019
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      Quoting: imawesome
      Yeah but it's looking like a possibility that Kotkaniemi might never be better than a good 3rd liner or bad 2nd liner


      You're not looking close enough.
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      Jan 9 at 2:35
      #15
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      Quoting: GMs
      Fair trade for MTL, the only thing is we will be stock with 3 young Centers in Dubois Suzuki Kotkaniemi ...


      Not a problem
      Jan 9 at 2:35
      #16
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      Dubois for Danault and Caufield might get it done. Struble and picks is to much from the habs.
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      Jan 11 at 11:24
      #17
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      Quoting: GMs
      So at 18-19 he scord 9 points ?


      Correct.
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