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IM NOT SAYING I WOULD DO THIS JUST SHOWING THE VALUE
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  1. Buchnevich, Pavel
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Jan. 9, 2021 at 5:34 p.m.
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That isn't going to get you PLD.

A whole bunch of stuff doesn't equate to a 1C.
Just more quantity for quality.
No sense for CBJ to do that. PLD was a number 4 over all who has performed like it. Trading a bunch of bottom 1/3 of the draft that hasn't done anything for him isn't going to land him.
Jan. 9, 2021 at 5:47 p.m.
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“ IM NOT SAYING I WOULD DO THIS JUST SHOWING THE VALUE”

I’d like to point out that the performance bonus put you well out of cap compliance so you couldn’t really do this without moving out cap elsewhere.
Jan. 9, 2021 at 5:54 p.m.
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Columbus declines. They'd want a better center prospect than chytil since center is their weakest position even if they keep PLD
Jan. 9, 2021 at 5:59 p.m.
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I don't think you're going to get PLD without giving up one of Lafreniere or Kakko. Likewise, LA isn't going to get PLD without giving up Byfield.

I don't think either team should do it, so I suspect PLD won't be traded anytime soon.
Jan. 9, 2021 at 6:20 p.m.
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PLD is getting overvalued hard on here -- this would be a competetive offer. A solid D prospect, a good top 6 forward, a young center with top 6 potential, and a 1st + 2nd with no conditions. Not a bad deal. I think it depends on how much they like Chytil.
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Jan. 9, 2021 at 6:27 p.m.
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PLD is getting overvalued hard on here -- this would be a competetive offer. A solid D prospect, a good top 6 forward, a young center with top 6 potential, and a 1st + 2nd with no conditions. Not a bad deal. I think it depends on how much they like Chytil.

100% agree. Some people overvalue players way too much. I’m not saying he’s overrated, but I’ve seen ridiculous offers on here that people think Columbus would decline.
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Jan. 9, 2021 at 7:07 p.m.
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That isn't going to get you PLD.

A whole bunch of stuff doesn't equate to a 1C.
Just more quantity for quality.
No sense for CBJ to do that. PLD was a number 4 over all who has performed like it. Trading a bunch of bottom 1/3 of the draft that hasn't done anything for him isn't going to land him.


Top defense prospect who projects to be a top pair D, a middle 6 C, and a top 6 RW, as well as a first round pick and a second round pick is not empty quantity by any means. It just so happens that there are multiple pieces but the quality is absolutely there.
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Jan. 9, 2021 at 7:08 p.m.
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I think this is a great offer value-wise. I’m not sure they want to deal him without getting a current top-6 center back though. They are still competitive.
Jan. 9, 2021 at 7:08 p.m.
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Spot on. This is a fair value for PLD imo.
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Jan. 9, 2021 at 7:09 p.m.
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I think this is a great offer value-wise. I’m not sure they want to deal him without getting a current top-6 center back though. They are still competitive.


I mean personally as a NYR fan, I'd be more than happy to sub Ryan Strome in for Chytil.
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Jan. 9, 2021 at 7:14 p.m.
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Quoting: tormundgiantsbane
Top defense prospect who projects to be a top pair D, a middle 6 C, and a top 6 RW, as well as a first round pick and a second round pick is not empty quantity by any means. It just so happens that there are multiple pieces but the quality is absolutely there.


you now why you have to list a pile on one side and not the other.
Quantity over quality.
If anything on the other side was worth it, you wouldn't be adding.
Oh and defense isn't going to help CBJ. They are already stacked on defense. So a bunch of middle 6 and a 1st round pick.
Good luck with that. It's not going to get you PLD.
Jan. 9, 2021 at 8:14 p.m.
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Quoting: pharrow
you now why you have to list a pile on one side and not the other.
Quantity over quality.
If anything on the other side was worth it, you wouldn't be adding.
Oh and defense isn't going to help CBJ. They are already stacked on defense. So a bunch of middle 6 and a 1st round pick.
Good luck with that. It's not going to get you PLD.


I understand that it is quite literally a larger quantity than CBJ is giving, but that's how trades work. Not every trade is one for one lol. Yes there is more in quantity, but it doesn't mean the quality is any less. NYR aren't sending spare parts, they're sending quality prospects and picks.
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Jan. 9, 2021 at 8:22 p.m.
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Why would the Rangers ever consider this? PLD is a 60 point center who I wouldn’t rank in the top 30 centers in the NHL. Maybe 40-50? I’d really have to think about it. Lmfao this is a massive overpayment. Quality or Quantity pick one not both lol
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Jan. 9, 2021 at 8:26 p.m.
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I don't think you're going to get PLD without giving up one of Lafreniere or Kakko. Likewise, LA isn't going to get PLD without giving up Byfield.

I don't think either team should do it, so I suspect PLD won't be traded anytime soon.


Why do you think PLD is this good? Seriously...
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Jan. 9, 2021 at 8:28 p.m.
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Quoting: KingLundqvist30
100% agree. Some people overvalue players way too much. I’m not saying he’s overrated, but I’ve seen ridiculous offers on here that people think Columbus would decline.


Columbus takes this deal and never looks back. 60 point center for 50 point winger 25 point 3c A RHD prospect 1st and 2nd round pick. Yeah doubt they turn this down. They would be high if they did. PLD isn’t a top 30 center and this could get you a top 30 center.
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Jan. 9, 2021 at 9:32 p.m.
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Columbus takes this deal and never looks back. 60 point center for 50 point winger 25 point 3c A RHD prospect 1st and 2nd round pick. Yeah doubt they turn this down. They would be high if they did. PLD isn’t a top 30 center and this could get you a top 30 center.


Well a lot of people disagree with you. There was an article on The Athletic today that quoted an unnamed NHL scout saying that PLD will be a "Top 5 C in the NHL."

https://theathletic.com/2311623/2021/01/08/should-the-kings-try-to-trade-for-pierre-luc-dubois-here-are-the-pros-and-cons?source=user-shared-article
Jan. 9, 2021 at 10:58 p.m.
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Well a lot of people disagree with you. There was an article on The Athletic today that quoted an unnamed NHL scout saying that PLD will be a "Top 5 C in the NHL."

https://theathletic.com/2311623/2021/01/08/should-the-kings-try-to-trade-for-pierre-luc-dubois-here-are-the-pros-and-cons?source=user-shared-article


Top 5 lol ? Over who. Matthew Mcdavid Leon mackinnon? Petterson? That’s5 already lol. “Unnamed scout” sound creditable
Jan. 10, 2021 at 1:07 a.m.
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Top 5 lol ? Over who. Matthew Mcdavid Leon mackinnon? Petterson? That’s5 already lol. “Unnamed scout” sound creditable


Lisa Dillman is very credible. If she said it then they said it.
Jan. 10, 2021 at 1:18 a.m.
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Why would the Rangers ever consider this? PLD is a 60 point center who I wouldn’t rank in the top 30 centers in the NHL. Maybe 40-50? I’d really have to think about it. Lmfao this is a massive overpayment. Quality or Quantity pick one not both lol


Not saying they would consider this just saying what the value has to be
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Jan. 10, 2021 at 1:20 a.m.
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PLD is getting overvalued hard on here -- this would be a competetive offer. A solid D prospect, a good top 6 forward, a young center with top 6 potential, and a 1st + 2nd with no conditions. Not a bad deal. I think it depends on how much they like Chytil.


Yeah I based it off the Mark Stone deal and added extra parts cause he is younger
Jan. 10, 2021 at 1:22 a.m.
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
I don't think you're going to get PLD without giving up one of Lafreniere or Kakko. Likewise, LA isn't going to get PLD without giving up Byfield.

I don't think either team should do it, so I suspect PLD won't be traded anytime soon.


PLD isn't near the best players in the league and Byfield, Kakko, and especially Laf all have the potential to be
Jan. 10, 2021 at 1:25 a.m.
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That isn't going to get you PLD.

A whole bunch of stuff doesn't equate to a 1C.
Just more quantity for quality.
No sense for CBJ to do that. PLD was a number 4 over all who has performed like it. Trading a bunch of bottom 1/3 of the draft that hasn't done anything for him isn't going to land him.


1st he was a third overall pick and second these are quality players, a potential top 2 dman, a potential 2nd line center, a top 6 winger who can still grow and a 1st and 2nd
Jan. 10, 2021 at 1:45 a.m.
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Quoting: tormundgiantsbane
I understand that it is quite literally a larger quantity than CBJ is giving, but that's how trades work. Not every trade is one for one lol. Yes there is more in quantity, but it doesn't mean the quality is any less. NYR aren't sending spare parts, they're sending quality prospects and picks.


clearly not all trades work out to be 1 to 1. But you seem to be missing the point here. You get a known quantity for pieces here. CBJ isn't going to do that as their window is just opening. That is not a team that wants to be in constant rebuild. You fail to realize the situation. They don't need a D prospect. Middle 6 players aren't helping them. There is a bunch of quantity here. They got PLD for 4 years. They aren't doing this.

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Top 5 lol ? Over who. Matthew Mcdavid Leon mackinnon? Petterson? That’s5 already lol. “Unnamed scout” sound creditable


top 5 is realllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllly pushing it here

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1st he was a third overall pick and second these are quality players, a potential top 2 dman, a potential 2nd line center, a top 6 winger who can still grow and a 1st and 2nd

3rd 4th .....whatever. Close enough....
Again see comment above. They aren't going to do that. It's like saying BUF should give up Jack for pieces. They aren't. PLD is a 1C. He's a guy you can build around. Not a piece. Hell look at what guys like EK went for. Ended up being top 5 picks.
They can get better.
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Jan. 10, 2021 at 2:34 a.m.
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Quoting: pharrow
clearly not all trades work out to be 1 to 1. But you seem to be missing the point here. You get a known quantity for pieces here. CBJ isn't going to do that as their window is just opening. That is not a team that wants to be in constant rebuild. You fail to realize the situation. They don't need a D prospect. Middle 6 players aren't helping them. There is a bunch of quantity here. They got PLD for 4 years. They aren't doing this.



top 5 is realllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllly pushing it here


3rd 4th .....whatever. Close enough....
Again see comment above. They aren't going to do that. It's like saying BUF should give up Jack for pieces. They aren't. PLD is a 1C. He's a guy you can build around. Not a piece. Hell look at what guys like EK went for. Ended up being top 5 picks.
They can get better.


what would you think a fair deal could be then
Jan. 10, 2021 at 3:02 a.m.
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what would you think a fair deal could be then


you can expect CBJ is looking for a difference maker back, not pieces. Be it top draft pick, prospect, or player.
They don't HAVE to move PLD. They have control for 4 years. That's a long time.
 
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