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Created by: jfrojelin
Initial Creation Date: Jan 9, 2021
Published: Jan 9 at 10:29
Team: 2021-22 San Jose Sharks
Team Explanation
thoughts?
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Donato, Ryan2$2,500,000
True, Alex2$900,000
Gregor, Noah2$1,500,000
Mete, Victor1$1,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Goodrow, Barclay1$2,000,000
Dzingel, Ryan2$3,700,000
Palmieri, Kyle2$5,900,000
Grubauer, Philipp2$3,400,000
Trades
SJS
  1. 2021 4th round pick (CAR)
  2. 2022 5th round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. Kane, Evander
Additional Details:
above average 5v5 guy, who knows if he'd waive his clause, or if this is the team that would do this
SJS
    seattle
    CAR
    1. Burns, Brent
    2. 2022 3rd round pick (SJS)
    3. 2021 4th round pick (CAR)
    SJS
    1. Mete, Victor [RFA Rights]
    MTL
    1. Simek, Radim
    2. 2022 4th round pick (SJS)
    Additional Details:
    gross term get simek out
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    SJS
    SJS
    SJS
    SJS
    SJS
    SJS
    2022
    SJS
    SJS
    CAR
    SJS
    SJS
    MIN
    2023
    SJS
    SJS
    SJS
    SJS
    SJS
    SJS
    SJS
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    20$81,500,000$74,216,666$0$1,707,500$7,283,334
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    SJS
    Meier, Timo
    $6,000,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    SJS
    Couture, Logan
    $8,000,000
    C, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    Palmieri, Kyle
    $5,900,000
    RW, LW
    UFA
    SJS
    Leonard, John
    $925,000
    LW
    RFA - 1
    SJS
    Hertl, Tomas
    $5,625,000
    C, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    SJS
    Labanc, Kevin
    $4,725,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    SJS
    Donato, Ryan
    $2,500,000
    LW, C
    RFA
    SJS
    Gregor, Noah
    $1,500,000
    C, LW
    RFA
    Dzingel, Ryan
    $3,700,000
    LW, RW, C
    UFA
    Goodrow, Barclay
    $2,000,000
    LW
    UFA
    SJS
    Chmelevski, Alexander
    $778,333
    C
    RFA - 1
    SJS
    True, Alex
    $900,000
    C, RW
    RFA
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    SJS
    Ferraro, Mario
    $925,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
    SJS
    Karlsson, Erik
    $11,500,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Grubauer, Philipp
    $3,400,000
    G
    UFA
    Mete, Victor
    $1,500,000
    LD/RD
    RFA
    SJS
    Merkley, Ryan
    $863,333
    RD
    RFA - 2
    SJS
    Melnichuk, Alexei
    $925,000
    G
    RFA - 1
    SJS
    Vlasic, Marc-Édouard
    $7,000,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    SJS
    Pasichnuk, Brinson
    $925,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
    Taxi Squad
    SJS
    Middleton, Jacob
    $725,000 ($0)
    LD
    RFA - 1
    SJS
    Kellman, Joel
    $750,000 ($0)
    C
    UFA - 1
    SJS
    Jones, Martin
    $5,750,000 ($4,625,000)
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 3

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    Jan 9 at 10:36
    #1
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    Cost substantially more than that to dump that albatross of a contract that’s Burns 1&4 minimum
    Montreal isn’t going to give you Mete to take a salary dump mid level prospect and a 2 or 3 minimum
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    Jan 9 at 10:48
    #2
    Bcarlo25
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    I would honestly be very surprised if donato is in the NHL next year. I’ll be even more surprised if Seattle picks up burns.
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    Jan 9 at 10:50
    #3
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    If you put gross term get(insert player name here) out you’re not getting a top d-prospect for the dump and a 4th
    Jan 9 at 10:50
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    Cost substantially more than that to dump that albatross of a contract that’s Burns 1&4 minimum
    Montreal isn’t going to give you Mete to take a salary dump mid level prospect and a 2 or 3 minimum


    Montreal isn't taking on the Salary because we don't have the space. Unless we are giving you a bad contract bad (although we don't really have one)
    Jan 9 at 10:52
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    Montreal isn't taking on the Salary because we don't have the space. Unless we are giving you a bad contract bad (although we don't really have one)

    I didn’t think so but even if they were they wouldn’t do so for the type of deal he was offering was the point I was making that wasn’t even a realistic deal if they had the salary cap space
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    Jan 9 at 11:00
    #6
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    Montreal isn't taking on the Salary because we don't have the space. Unless we are giving you a bad contract bad (although we don't really have one)


    Josh Anderson... Paul Byron... Shea Weber... Carey Price...
    Jan 9 at 11:06
    #7
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    Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
    Josh Anderson... Paul Byron... Shea Weber... Carey Price...


    None of which are bad contracts... We can argue Price because he's a goalie, but if he's hot he will win games by himself.
    Jan 9 at 11:07
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    None of which are bad contracts... We can argue Price because he's a goalie, but if he's hot he will win games by himself.

    Any contract paying Jonathan Drouin sorry I can’t stand him
    Jan 9 at 11:08
    #9
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    Any contract paying Jonathan Drouin sorry I can’t stand him


    That doesn't make him a bad contract. There are many players that I hate, but that doesn't mean they don't do their job
    Jan 9 at 11:10
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    That doesn't make him a bad contract. There are many players that I hate, but that doesn't mean they don't do their job


    Serious question Montréal’s up by a goal five minutes left. How many minutes does Jonathan Drouin get?Don’t count a possible Montreal power-play does he get 30 seconds. Maybe if Montreal has an offense of zone face-off maybe
    Jan 9 at 11:11
    #11
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    Serious question Montréal’s up by a goal five minutes left. How many minutes does Jonathan Drouin get?Don’t count a possible Montreal power-play does he get 30 seconds


    Julien rolls the first 3 lines, So I would say about 1:30 Drouin would get 5v5.
    Jan 9 at 11:12
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    Julien rolls the first 3 lines, So I would say about 1:30 Drouin would get 5v5.

    I think you’re being generous
    Jan 9 at 11:13
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    I think you’re being generous


    I'm not whatsoever. If anything, I'm being conservative.
    Jan 9 at 11:14
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    I think you’re being generous


    I'm thinking Julien's first choice is the Tatar-Danault-Gallagher line and then 2nd it's the Drouin line. This year is might even be his first choice as I believe Drouin-Suzuki-Anderson is a real game changer line.
    Jan 9 at 11:14
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    I'm not whatsoever. If anything, I'm being conservative.


    I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with you
    Jan 9 at 11:15
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    I'm thinking Julien's first choice is the Tatar-Danault-Gallagher line and then 2nd it's the Drouin line. This year is might even be his first choice as I believe Drouin-Suzuki-Anderson is a real game changer line.

    You are really trusting Drouin late in the game with a slim lead Bad call
    Jan 9 at 11:16
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with you


    If we were talking about Defending a lead then I agree with you, but Drouin is one of our best offense creating wingers. What line would you think is going to be out there for the last 5 minutes?
    Jan 9 at 11:16
    #18
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    You are really trusting Drouin late in the game with a slim lead Bad call


    It's not like he's the center. He's there to create offense and he does it quite well.
    Jan 9 at 11:16
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    If we were talking about Defending a lead then I agree with you, but Drouin is one of our best offense creating wingers. What line would you think is going to be out there for the last 5 minutes?

    That’s what I said you were up by a goal five minutes left
    Jan 9 at 11:17
    #20
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    That’s what I said you were up by a goal five minutes left


    I must've read it wrong. Drouin isn't very good defensively so obviously he wouldn't be the top choice, but that's not what he is here for.
    Jan 9 at 11:19
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    I must've read it wrong. Drouin isn't very good defensively so obviously he wouldn't be the top choice, but that's not what he is here for.

    I understand he’s there for offenses but you can’t be a complete defensive albatross like Drouin either
    Jan 9 at 11:19
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    Montreal isn't taking on the Salary because we don't have the space. Unless we are giving you a bad contract bad (although we don't really have one)


    Paul Byron, 7 years for Josh Anderson, kinda Kulak just because y'alls depth, Weber, and I didn't even have to look
    Jan 9 at 11:21
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    I understand he’s there for offenses but you can’t be a complete defensive albatross like Drouin either


    Drouin isn't a complete disaster defensively. He's not good, but like I said, he's not here for his defense.
    Jan 9 at 11:21
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    Quoting: jfrojelin
    Paul Byron, 7 years for Josh Anderson, kinda Kulak just because y'alls depth, Weber, and I didn't even have to look


    None of those players have bad contracts. Look at their advanced stats and you will see otherwise.
    Jan 9 at 11:25
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    None of those players have bad contracts. Look at their advanced stats and you will see otherwise.


    Price I forgot about. And sure currently those players are worth it currently(not Byron because he's rarely in the lineup and y'all have possibly some of the best wing depth in the league) but Weber isn't going to age well, sadly. I do think the trade doesn't make too much sense for the habs (tho the value is fair just not the situation) because of the mass amounts of re-signing they have to do this offseason
     
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