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Created by: Jakethesnake97
Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 9, 2021
Published: Jan. 9, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
3$925,000
3$925,000
3$925,000
2$925,000
3$925,000
3$875,000
3$875,000
3$875,000
3$875,000
3$875,000
3$875,000
3$875,000
3$875,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$4,000,000
2$2,250,000
1$875,000
2$925,000
2$3,250,000
1$875,000
1$1,000,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
5$4,250,000
4$2,750,000
2$1,000,000
2$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$5,000,000
3$4,000,000
5$6,500,000
2$1,000,000
Trades
1.
MTL
    Expansion draft
    2.
    MTL
    1. Berard, Brett [Reserve List]
    2. Buchnevich, Pavel [RFA Rights]
    3. 2023 2nd round pick (NYR)
    NYR
    1. Danault, Phillip
    2. 2023 3rd round pick (MTL)
    3.
    MTL
    1. Appleton, Mason [RFA Rights]
    2. 2023 3rd round pick (WPG)
    4.
    MTL
    1. Pinto, Shane [Reserve List]
    2. 2023 1st round pick (OTT)
    Buyouts
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2021
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    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the TBL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the CHI
    Logo of the WSH
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the STL
    Logo of the VGK
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the OTT
    Logo of the PHI
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    2022
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the STL
    2023
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the OTT
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the NYR
    Logo of the WPG
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    24$83,500,000$79,955,059$1,132,500$420,000$3,544,941
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    C
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $925,000$925,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,250,000$3,250,000
    C
    UFA - 8
    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    C
    UFA - 8
    $4,250,000$4,250,000
    LW, RW, C
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $875,000$875,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,400,000$3,400,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    C
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 5
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    C, LW, RW
    UFA
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    RW
    UFA - 3
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $2,250,000$2,250,000
    LD
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $2,343,750$2,343,750
    RD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $10,500,000$10,500,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $7,857,143$7,857,143
    RD
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $925,000$925,000
    G
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
    LD/RD
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $875,000$875,000
    RD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $925,000$925,000
    LD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1

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    Jan. 9, 2021 at 11:30 p.m.
    #1
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    I'm pretty sure Winnipeg would just keep Appleton and the pick.
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    Jan. 10, 2021 at 4:12 a.m.
    #2
    Vegan Commie Hipster
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    I'm more pessimistic but I feel like a cup run isn't in the cards for this mtl core with the two big contracts declining and a rebuild or clever retool is needed
    Jan. 10, 2021 at 4:30 a.m.
    #3
    Serf
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    MTL
    Pinto, Shane [Reserve List]
    2023 1st round pick (OTT)
    OTT
    Toffoli, Tyler
    Harris, Jordan

    Toffoli is a solid 2nd line RW, but he's 28, not old of course, but much older than Ottawa's future core, and two years older than their placeholders, Chris Tierney & Connor Brown. Yes he's younger than Dadonov and Stepan, but they are temporary core pieces. Toffoli is inconsistent, but a lot of scorers are, he's just really hot and cold.

    Harris looks like a nice find for Montreal, but would never be more than a 3rd pairing in Ottawa as long as Chabot and Sanderson are there.

    Pinto is probably going to be a 3rd line centre, but that 1st round pick is going to be the best player in this deal.

    1st > Toffoli
    Pinto > Harris

    Ottawa would decline this offer.
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    Jan. 10, 2021 at 9:16 a.m.
    #4
    Hockey 1st Sens 2nd
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    Toffoli is a solid 2nd line RW, but he's 28, not old of course, but much older than Ottawa's future core, and two years older than their placeholders, Chris Tierney & Connor Brown. Yes he's younger than Dadonov and Stepan, but they are temporary core pieces. Toffoli is inconsistent, but a lot of scorers are, he's just really hot and cold.

    Harris looks like a nice find for Montreal, but would never be more than a 3rd pairing in Ottawa as long as Chabot and Sanderson are there.

    Pinto is probably going to be a 3rd line centre, but that 1st round pick is going to be the best player in this deal.

    1st > Toffoli
    Pinto > Harris

    Ottawa would decline this offer.[/quote]

    THIS is worded far too nicely. It's a brutal offer for Ottawa. To add to ALL THE REASONS above, Toffoli would be 30 at the time of the trade and just two seasons from being UFA, which means OTT would likely only have him for one full season and need to move him at the deadline of his second season or get nothing in return. This is a very, very easy NO.
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    Jan. 10, 2021 at 4:13 p.m.
    #5
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    OTT rejects in an instant.

    Just a terrible offer.
    Jan. 10, 2021 at 8:37 p.m.
    #6
    Tspky
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    VERY easy no for the rangers. they wouldn't do buch for denault straight up
     
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