Those are bad second lines.

no lol. You cant comment on any Sens players you havent watched. So dont talk about Stutzle, Norris, Batherson, Brannstrom, Wolanin. Thanks Dude

1. I’ve seen all those players play. Actually, not so much on wolanin. Maybe i have seen him but found him thoroughly difficult to remember.
2. Maybe dial back the defensive attitude.
3. You gotta quit this nonsense of just banking every single sens prospect as a legit top 6 NHLer. Norris had a solid year in the AHL. Good for him. That means squat. Saying he’s centering a second line caliber line at this stage, and then getting defensive when someone doesn’t think they’re elite is just so childish.
4. I can comment on anything. So can you. Which means i can say the following.
5. That forward group looks SO bad. Good news is the sens will add a heck of a player through the draft this year.

LMAO . That is called hating at its finest. DJ Smith said Norris has looked amazing and so has Batherson. They wouldnt be playing that high if they werent good. The whole top 9 could average 0.5 PPG so good on ya

its like pretty clearly hating, do i think the sens are AMAZING? no, but considering how awful they've been over the last 3-4 years this is a significant improvement and dunking on the optimism of fans is lazy

Looks good to me... makes me question the Stepan trade even more. Would have loved to see Colin White get that top 6 opportunity instead of giving up a 2nd rounder for 30yo declining UFA. In addition to one of Logan Brown or Balcers getting a shot. I also thought Galchenyuk should get a top 9 spot but not much more moving around you can do. Maybe throw Tierney down to 4th and go AG-CW-CB on the 3rd?
Too bad there's no room for Nick Paul in the B6, thought he had a great coming out year and deserved that new deal.

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, I'm just pointing out what an average 2nd line typically produces

1st line - 75 goals
2nd line - 60 goals
3rd line - 45 goals
4th line - 30 goals
defence- 25 goals

team goals - 235 goals, which is 2.87 goals per game

Last five seasons goals per game league average
3.02
3.01
2.97
2.77
2.71

This isn't a hard and fast rule, just a guide as to what an average line, and average defence, would produce.

The first two lines could be average 2nd lines, but that 3rd line is definitely producing as a 3rd line. The 4th line might produce as a 3rd line as well. So basically, it's two 2nd lines, and two 3rd lines, which makes them a very average team, if their defence and goalie can be at least average.

Back at it again with Bcarlo

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Significant improvement? Sure. Saying that the sens have three second lines is just wacky.

I should expand a little on why I think they are two 2nds and two 3rds

goals are based on 82 games

Dadonov - 30 goals
Stepan - 15 goals
Stuetzle - 10-15 goals
55-60 goals

Tkachuk - 25-35 goals (breakout season, not sure how high he's headed)
Norris - 15 goals
Batherson - 10 goals
50-60 goals

Brown - 18 goals
Tierney - 12 goals
White - 15 goals
45 goals

Galchenyuk - 15 goals
Anisimov - 15 goals
Watson - 10 goals
40 goals

i dont necessarily think they do but the majority of their projected top 6 have barely played together or in the NHL at all so whos to say what'll happen

What about Norris has been, amazing? His three pointless games in the NHL? I’m sure he was solid, but amazing? Think maybe you’re reaching just a smidge? I actually like Batherson. Way more than Norris. Amazing though? Amazing is the word you want to go with. Smith? Who are you even talking about.

Who knows. Maybe you’re right. Maybe all these guys that haven’t been NHLers are just top six locks, and the senators will win the cup this year. You should place some bets on that.

That’s a very reasonable take. “This is three second lines,” and, “Norris is amazing,” etc are not.

He meant Norris has been really good at training camp, according to DJ Smith.

Edit, Bcarlo25 might have me on ignore, since we haven't agreed on much in previous threads...

I don’t. I just think you’re kinda funny. Not really in a good way, but i find you entertaining.