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Team: 2021-22 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 12, 2021
Published: Jan. 13, 2021
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Honestly, is this solid value? I know that CBJ would want more prominent pieces but does the value in this deal work?
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
3$925,000
3$925,000
3$925,000
3$925,000
3$925,000
3$925,000
3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$4,250,000
2$1,750,000
2$750,000
2$2,750,000
2$3,750,000
Trades
1.
CBJ
  1. Berard, Brett [Reserve List]
  2. Chytil, Filip [RFA Rights]
  3. Lundkvist, Nils [Reserve List]
  4. Strome, Ryan
  5. 2021 1st round pick (NYR)
2.
NYR
    - Seattle Expansion Draft + Trade Considerations.
    CBJ
    1. Hájek, Libor [RFA Rights]
    2. Howden, Brett [RFA Rights]
    3. Rykov, Yegor [RFA Rights]
    Buyouts
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2021
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    2022
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    2023
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$67,768,968$0$9,115,000$13,731,032
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
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    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    C
    UFA - 1
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    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
    RW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the New York Rangers
    $11,642,857$11,642,857
    LW
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the New York Rangers
    $5,350,000$5,350,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the New York Rangers
    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    LW
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the New York Rangers
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the New York Rangers
    $4,250,000$4,250,000
    LW, RW, C
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the New York Rangers
    $1,550,000$1,550,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the New York Rangers
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the New York Rangers
    $1,750,000$1,750,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the New York Rangers
    $925,000$925,000
    RW
    RFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the New York Rangers
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$350,000$350K)
    LD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the New York Rangers
    $8,000,000$8,000,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the New York Rangers
    $3,750,000$3,750,000
    G
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the New York Rangers
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    LD
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the New York Rangers
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the New York Rangers
    $2,425,000$2,425,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the New York Rangers
    $797,500$797,500 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
    LD
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the New York Rangers
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the New York Rangers
    $809,167$809,167 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
    LD
    RFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the New York Rangers
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the New York Rangers
    $750,000$750,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1

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    Jan. 13, 2021 at 11:19 a.m.
    #1
    Jaromir_Jagr_the_leg
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    Berard ain’t leavin he’s gonna be our pest
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    Jan. 13, 2021 at 11:20 a.m.
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    Bcarlo25
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    If the rangers had PLD, and someone offered this package, what would you say?
    Jan. 13, 2021 at 11:21 a.m.
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    CbjSabresDucks
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    If I'm cbj I ask NYR to replace Strome with Henriksson but its close. I'm high on berard though
    Jan. 13, 2021 at 11:22 a.m.
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    Buffbry
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    One of kakko or laf goes in this deal or CBJ doesn't pick up the phone
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    Jan. 13, 2021 at 11:26 a.m.
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    torontos finest
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    Quoting: buffbry
    One of kakko or laf goes in this deal or CBJ doesn't pick up the phone


    In what universe does a PLD trade incorporate Lafrenière?
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    Jan. 13, 2021 at 11:31 a.m.
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    Quoting: Bdawwwgy1
    If I'm cbj I ask NYR to replace Strome with Henriksson but its close. I'm high on berard though


    Nice to see him get some love lol. I could but Strome gotta go for cap space
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    Jan. 13, 2021 at 11:32 a.m.
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    Quoting: Bcarlo25
    If the rangers had PLD, and someone offered this package, what would you say?

    Yes, Only if no other team offered a Kakko, Zegras, Cozens, Turcotte center-pieced deal. I don't see Jeff Gorton or John Davidson moving Lafreniere or Kakko. Just a hunch.
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    Jan. 13, 2021 at 11:32 a.m.
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    Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev
    Berard ain’t leavin he’s gonna be our pest

    Could sub him for Pajuniemi but he has good potential
    Jan. 13, 2021 at 11:35 a.m.
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    To much quantity in this deal. Needs more quality as Columbus already has a bunch of quantity pieces
    Jan. 13, 2021 at 11:37 a.m.
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    Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
    Yes, Only if no other team offered a Kakko, Zegras, Cozens, Turcotte center-pieced deal. I don't see Jeff Gorton or John Davidson moving Lafreniere or Kakko. Just a hunch.


    I don’t think you even believe yourself.
    Jan. 13, 2021 at 11:43 a.m.
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    Quoting: Bcarlo25
    I don’t think you even believe yourself.


    He requested a trade. He's now a tainted commodity for CBJ. The longer he stays the more the situation will deteriorate. Jarmo is a tough negotiator but I simply don't see any teams doing that type of deal especially in this environment.
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    Jan. 13, 2021 at 11:48 a.m.
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    Quoting: Bcarlo25
    I don’t think you even believe yourself.


    He’s right little man
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    Jan. 13, 2021 at 11:52 a.m.
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    LafreneiretoKravtsov
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    The difference in upgrading from Strome to Dubois isnt worth Chytil, Lundkvist, Berard and a 1st
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    Jan. 13, 2021 at 11:54 a.m.
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    Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
    He requested a trade. He's now a tainted commodity for CBJ. The longer he stays the more the situation will deteriorate. Jarmo is a tough negotiator but I simply don't see any teams doing that type of deal especially in this environment.


    1. Has anything come out about a trade since he signed?
    2. Why would he be tainted? That situation comes in three years when he’s getting close to UFA.
    Jan. 13, 2021 at 11:54 a.m.
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    Quoting: Rino911
    He’s right little man


    No need to down-talk anyone here. Just a basic hockey discussion.
    Jan. 13, 2021 at 11:56 a.m.
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    Quoting: Bcarlo25
    1. Has anything come out about a trade since he signed?
    2. Why would he be tainted? That situation comes in three years when he’s getting close to UFA.

    He himself spoke out about the situation confirming he wanted out and compared it the Panarin/Bobrovsky situation in 2019.

    Also, Torts spoke on it too. As for the situation? He is under contract for 2 years not 3 and is definitely not signing long-term and being a player on a team that doesn't even want to be could rub off on others in the locker room the wrong way.
    Jan. 13, 2021 at 11:57 a.m.
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    Quoting: Bcarlo25
    1. Has anything come out about a trade since he signed?
    2. Why would he be tainted? That situation comes in three years when he’s getting close to UFA.

    Do you not understand what requesting a trade is?
    It means he doesn’t want to be in Columbus and won’t even make it to UFA period. He wants to have little time this season in Columbus. So his value will be tainted to get him out of Columbus. As tho I’m the highest fan abt getting him this is the right value to get him. Also yes very much had came out since he signed 5 mil x 2. He would of signed a long term deal if he wanted to stay in Columbus.
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    Jan. 13, 2021 at 11:57 a.m.
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    Quoting: Josh
    The difference in upgrading from Strome to Dubois isnt worth Chytil, Lundkvist, Berard and a 1st

    1C for a glorified 3C definitely constitutes that up-charge.
    Jan. 13, 2021 at 12:00 p.m.
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    Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
    1C for a glorified 3C definitely constitutes that up-charge.


    If we really think abt it Lundqvist would be a a part of the deal because our future RHD core would have him a the 4th man.
    Jan. 13, 2021 at 12:02 p.m.
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    Quoting: Rino911
    Do you not understand what requesting a trade is?
    It means he doesn’t want to be in Columbus and won’t even make it to UFA period. He wants to have little time this season in Columbus. So his value will be tainted to get him out of Columbus. As tho I’m the highest fan abt getting him this is the right value to get him. Also yes very much had came out since he signed 5 mil x 2. He would of signed a long term deal if he wanted to stay in Columbus.


    Do you understand the rules of restricted free agency? Do you understand that the nhl trade market opens as a free market, stimulated by competition, and that there are 29 teams other than the rangers and the blue jackets (soon to be 30)?
    Jan. 13, 2021 at 12:05 p.m.
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    Quoting: Bcarlo25
    Do you understand the rules of restricted free agency? Do you understand that the nhl trade market opens as a free market, stimulated by competition, and that there are 29 teams other than the rangers and the blue jackets (soon to be 30)?


    Your not understanding the point. He does not want to stay in Columbus for his full two years on his contract. Which after his contract is up he turns into a RFA. Which also he is a very elite player but not everyone will be shopping for him due to the cap being flat. I also thing we shouldn’t even go for him because we had to sign Igor, foxy and zibby the year he is a RFA.
    Jan. 13, 2021 at 12:05 p.m.
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    Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
    He himself spoke out about the situation confirming he wanted out and compared it the Panarin/Bobrovsky situation in 2019.

    Also, Torts spoke on it too. As for the situation? He is under contract for 2 years not 3 and is definitely not signing long-term and being a player on a team that doesn't even want to be could rub off on others in the locker room the wrong way.


    Well, he’s signed for two years, but then he’s an RFA with arb rights, and then he’s an RFA with arb rights the year after that too. Not likely columbus should be in a hurry.

    It’s also not like this is a new story. Players have wanted out of small markets forever. Normally it doesn’t hit the media, but it’s not like it means they have to move him for whatever they can get. Shea Weber hated Nashville. Worked out there for quite some time.

    The jackets are not motivated to sell right now. They may, long term, see that they have to move the player, but there is absolutely zero need to move quickly.
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    Jan. 13, 2021 at 12:07 p.m.
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    Quoting: Rino911
    Your not understanding the point. He does not want to stay in Columbus for his full two years on his contract. Which after his contract is up he turns into a RFA. Which also he is a very elite player but not everyone will be shopping for him due to the cap being flat. I also thing we shouldn’t even go for him because we had to sign Igor, foxy and zibby the year he is a RFA.

    Also that will add up to abt 18-25 mil in cap. When u add on PLD it could go to 25-32 mil
    Jan. 13, 2021 at 12:09 p.m.
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    Quoting: Bcarlo25
    Well, he’s signed for two years, but then he’s an RFA with arb rights, and then he’s an RFA with arb rights the year after that too. Not likely columbus should be in a hurry.

    It’s also not like this is a new story. Players have wanted out of small markets forever. Normally it doesn’t hit the media, but it’s not like it means they have to move him for whatever they can get. Shea Weber hated Nashville. Worked out there for quite some time.

    The jackets are not motivated to sell right now. They may, long term, see that they have to move the player, but there is absolutely zero need to move quickly.

    Bro Elliot Friedman said they were looking to shop him by the deadline. Looks at his recents tweets and it was also on TSN
    Jan. 13, 2021 at 12:10 p.m.
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    Quoting: mondo
    In what universe does a PLD trade incorporate Lafrenière?


    CLB would ask for one of Kakko or Lafrieniere for sure, but they dont get AF IMO...Kakko probably.
    PLD has the potential of being a franchise C...that's gonna cost any team one of their best prospects
     
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