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PLD TRADE TO MTL

Created by: meno9305
Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 15, 2021
Published: Jan. 15, 2021
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Might be short of value for Dubois, tell me what ya'll think

KK, is playing very well since last year's playoffs, but wont replace Dubois on the 1st line this year in CBJ (Maybe in 2-3 years), but he gained confidence and show great potential.
yes, its sketchy for CBJ cause the prospects i throw in are incertain et we dont really know how they will develop, but high potential.

lemme know what u think
Trades
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc
  2. Texier, Alexandre
Additional Details:
Getting Texier because he is like best friend with Dubois

PLD for KK, Caufield, 1st, 2nd,
Texier for Armia, Mete, 3rd
CBJ
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. Caufield, Cole [Reserve List]
  3. Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
  4. Mete, Victor
  5. 2021 1st round pick (MTL)
  6. 2021 2nd round pick (TBL)
  7. 2021 3rd round pick (CHI)
Additional Details:
Throwing Mete cus he is kk's mate
Buyouts
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
19$81,500,000$74,253,809$0$637,500$7,246,191
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$3,083,333$3,083,333
C
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 7
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$4,800,000$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,125,000$2,125,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 2
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$897,500$897,500
LW, C, RW
RFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 6
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$4,350,000$4,350,000
G
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
RFA - 2
Taxi Squad
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$925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$771,666$771,666 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
G
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
C
UFA - 2

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Jan. 15, 2021 at 12:45 p.m.
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PlusMinus is stupid
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Bromance trades. Interesting take.
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Jan. 15, 2021 at 12:46 p.m.
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No thanks, this is not what Montreal would want to give up Caufield and KK together >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PLD in 2-3 years this is stupid.
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Jan. 15, 2021 at 12:49 p.m.
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NO MORE TRADES INVOLVING COLE CAUFIELD, MONTREAL DOES NOT NEED ANOTHER CENTER THEY NEED A GAME BREAKING GOAL SCORER WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT CAUFIELD IS!!
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Jan. 15, 2021 at 12:53 p.m.
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Quoting: Justahockeyfan
NO MORE TRADES INVOLVING COLE CAUFIELD, MONTREAL DOES NOT NEED ANOTHER CENTER THEY NEED A GAME BREAKING GOAL SCORER WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT CAUFIELD IS!!


yes i understand, but personally, i can let go of caufield, idw why, i just dont see how he will performs in the NHL. but if he stays with mtl, i hope he will
Jan. 15, 2021 at 12:55 p.m.
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No thanks, this is not what Montreal would want to give up Caufield and KK together >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PLD in 2-3 years this is stupid.


i kinda agree, if PLD had a 5-6 years contract, would have been less sktechy for mtl. I put caufield cause i dont really have faith in him lol idk why
Jan. 15, 2021 at 1:00 p.m.
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Edited Jan. 15, 2021 at 1:07 p.m.
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yes i understand, but personally, i can let go of caufield, idw why, i just dont see how he will performs in the NHL. but if he stays with mtl, i hope he will


Watch a few UW games, you will see how his game transfers to the NHL. He may not be a big guy and many believe he is 1 dimensional however he is more than just a sniper. He had 19 goals and 19 assists in 36 games last season. He has 7-7-14 totals in 12 games this year and is focusing more on his defensive skills. The kid is just severely underrated in other aspects of his game. He won the Big 10 scoring title in his freshman year something that has never been done before.
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Jan. 15, 2021 at 1:00 p.m.
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You know nothing JS
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Quoting: Justahockeyfan
NO MORE TRADES INVOLVING COLE CAUFIELD, MONTREAL DOES NOT NEED ANOTHER CENTER THEY NEED A GAME BREAKING GOAL SCORER WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT CAUFIELD IS!!


YOU CAN WRITE IN ALL CAPS IF YOU WANT BUT MONTREAL NEED MORE A CENTER THAN A RIGHT WINGER
Jan. 15, 2021 at 1:19 p.m.
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YOU CAN WRITE IN ALL CAPS IF YOU WANT BUT MONTREAL NEED MORE A CENTER THAN A RIGHT WINGER


Montreal needs a 1 LHD more than anything else right now after that I would say a 30+ goal scoring winger then a Center IF the consensus is that Suzuki, Danault, Kotkaniemi and Poehling\Evans are not going to be good enough. Personally I think our center position is just fine and I like all our defensive prospects. Our wingers are good but none of them outside of Gally has ever put up 30 goals. Caufield has that ability and then some, he could possibly be the illusive 50 goal scorer (Doubt he ever hits 50 but there is a small chance).
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Jan. 15, 2021 at 1:34 p.m.
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Watch a few UW games, you will see how his game transfers to the NHL. He may not be a big guy and many believe he is 1 dimensional however he is more than just a sniper. He had 19 goals and 19 assists in 36 games last season. He has 7-7-14 totals in 12 games this year and is focusing more on his defensive skills. The kid is just severely underrated in other aspects of his game. He won the Big 10 scoring title in his freshman year something that has never been done before.


yeah i will watch him more often, i hope he turns out good
Jan. 15, 2021 at 1:35 p.m.
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Montreal needs a 1 LHD more than anything else right now after that I would say a 30+ goal scoring winger then a Center IF the consensus is that Suzuki, Danault, Kotkaniemi and Poehling\Evans are not going to be good enough. Personally I think our center position is just fine and I like all our defensive prospects. Our wingers are good but none of them outside of Gally has ever put up 30 goals. Caufield has that ability and then some, he could possibly be the illusive 50 goal scorer (Doubt he ever hits 50 but there is a small chance).


i hope he will proves us wrong and be a lethal sniper in the NHL
Jan. 15, 2021 at 1:44 p.m.
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You know nothing JS
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Montreal needs a 1 LHD more than anything else right now after that I would say a 30+ goal scoring winger then a Center IF the consensus is that Suzuki, Danault, Kotkaniemi and Poehling\Evans are not going to be good enough. Personally I think our center position is just fine and I like all our defensive prospects. Our wingers are good but none of them outside of Gally has ever put up 30 goals. Caufield has that ability and then some, he could possibly be the illusive 50 goal scorer (Doubt he ever hits 50 but there is a small chance).


Gally and Anderson are signed for 6 more years. RW is good. Also, Caufield could be a bust for all we know. His 2 participations at WJC were not impressive. Even if he become an impact player, it wont be for another 2-3 years.

Dubois would become 1C from the start, Suzuki beeing promising but on a short period and KK not proving he can be top 6 yet.

Also, Dubois can play LW, which is, without a doubt, the weakest position on the team. It is weak now (why Toffoli play there), will be worst next year with Tatar leaving and no top prospect (Mysak and Tuch are not).
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Jan. 15, 2021 at 1:45 p.m.
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i hope he will proves us wrong and be a lethal sniper in the NHL


He has every step of the way so far. They said he would not be the same type of player in the NCAA and he was one dimensional. He went out and broke the big ten freshman scoring title held by Kyle Conner and added playmaking skills to his arsenal. They said he was a defensive liability, he has gone to Granato and asked for help strengthening that part of his game. The kid just flat out seems to like to prove everyone wrong. He is already regarded as having an elite NHL quality release and shot, he is not all of a sudden going to lose that.
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Jan. 15, 2021 at 1:54 p.m.
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Gally and Anderson are signed for 6 more years. RW is good. Also, Caufield could be a bust for all we know. His 2 participations at WJC were not impressive. Even if he become an impact player, it wont be for another 2-3 years.

Dubois would become 1C from the start, Suzuki beeing promising but on a short period and KK not proving he can be top 6 yet.

Also, Dubois can play LW, which is, without a doubt, the weakest position on the team. It is weak now (why Toffoli play there), will be worst next year with Tatar leaving and no top prospect (Mysak and Tuch are not).


Yes RW is set for 6 years providing Gally doesn't have a shortened career with his play style.
KK has the ability to become better than Dubois but even if he misses Suzuki is already almost even with Dubois. So having Suzuki-Dubois-Danault-Poehling\Evans in 2 years is not any better than having Suzuki-KK-Danault-Poehling\Evans but then you gave up a player who turned out to be = to PLD + a potential 30-50 goal scorer + 1st (which could be another top 6 forward or top 4 D man) minimum for what you already have but need to be patient with. Now is not the time to hit the panic button on KK.
LW is definitely our weakest position that is another reason to not trade KK for Dubois. Why give up a center who can play wing for a center who can play wing and costs 5.5 times more, when what you really need is a winger. It is redundant.
Jan. 15, 2021 at 2:04 p.m.
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Yes RW is set for 6 years providing Gally doesn't have a shortened career with his play style.
KK has the ability to become better than Dubois but even if he misses Suzuki is already almost even with Dubois. So having Suzuki-Dubois-Danault-Poehling\Evans in 2 years is not any better than having Suzuki-KK-Danault-Poehling\Evans but then you gave up a player who turned out to be = to PLD + a potential 30-50 goal scorer + 1st (which could be another top 6 forward or top 4 D man) minimum for what you already have but need to be patient with. Now is not the time to hit the panic button on KK.
LW is definitely our weakest position that is another reason to not trade KK for Dubois. Why give up a center who can play wing for a center who can play wing and costs 5.5 times more, when what you really need is a winger. It is redundant.


Now you switched from Caufield to KK. I agree on not trading KK for Dubois for all the reasons you mentionned.

But if you want to be a contender in the next 2 years (the Weber-Price window) you pull the trigger with an Danault+Caufield+1st+... offer. It is short term vs long term vision.
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Jan. 15, 2021 at 2:14 p.m.
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Now you switched from Caufield to KK. I agree on not trading KK for Dubois for all the reasons you mentionned.

But if you want to be a contender in the next 2 years (the Weber-Price window) you pull the trigger with an Danault+Caufield+1st+... offer. It is short term vs long term vision.


Sorry I am reading like 3 threads at once lol
Jan. 15, 2021 at 2:15 p.m.
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Now you switched from Caufield to KK. I agree on not trading KK for Dubois for all the reasons you mentionned.

But if you want to be a contender in the next 2 years (the Weber-Price window) you pull the trigger with an Danault+Caufield+1st+... offer. It is short term vs long term vision.


Absolutely if it was Danault + Caufield + 1st I would hate to lose Cole but yeah I think to line up Suzuki, Dubois Kotkaniemi you have to trade him.
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