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No KK but high value

Created by: math731
Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 15, 2021
Published: Jan. 15, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Top 6 C, A prospect (our best prospect after Caufield), top 9 W with elite PK skills and two high picks

PP units

PP1:
Suzuki on the right wall
Drouin on the goal line
Toffoli bumper
Tatar left wall
Petry blue line

PP2:
KK on the right wall
Anderson in front of the ne
Gally bumper
Dubois left wall
Romanov blue line
Trades
CBJ
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. Danault, Phillip
  3. Guhle, Kaiden
  4. 2021 1st round pick (MTL)
  5. 2022 2nd round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
Danault extended 5X5
Buyouts
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$73,432,976$0$3,137,500$8,067,024
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,800,000$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
C
UFA - 2
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 7
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$2,125,000$2,125,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 2
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 6
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$4,350,000$4,350,000
G
UFA - 1
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$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$735,000$735,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$771,666$771,666 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
G
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Jan. 15, 2021 at 1:18 p.m.
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change guhle to KK and take out the 2nd and Armia. Then you have a basis point of discussion
Jan. 15, 2021 at 1:19 p.m.
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I don't get Montreal fans. You guys are getting a 1C in PLD and won't give up the guy who would be your 3C in KK? Why would CBJ do this? PLD is worth Suzuki+. If you can get him for KK+ that'd be a huge win for Montreal.
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Jan. 15, 2021 at 2:20 p.m.
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You know nothing JS
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Quoting: SociallyHawkward
I don't get Montreal fans. You guys are getting a 1C in PLD and won't give up the guy who would be your 3C in KK? Why would CBJ do this? PLD is worth Suzuki+. If you can get him for KK+ that'd be a huge win for Montreal.


PLD is NOT worth Suzuki+. Closer to free agency, way more expensive, wants out, not more productivr than Zuk...
KK doesnt work because of the caphit difference.
You want 1C in return? Here's Danault with an extension!
Jan. 15, 2021 at 2:23 p.m.
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You know nothing JS
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I don’t think Ghule is the prospect that would interest CLB. His potential is limited and he is Canadian. The word on the street is that CLB wants american prospects for marketing.

Harris, Strubble or Caufield would earn more serious considerations.
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Jan. 15, 2021 at 2:26 p.m.
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Quoting: jpsnow13
PLD is NOT worth Suzuki+. Closer to free agency, way more expensive, wants out, not more productivr than Zuk...
KK doesnt work because of the caphit difference.
You want 1C in return? Here's Danault with an extension!


PLD is better than Suzuki.
Can make cap work in any trade cus it certainly wouldn't be PLD for KK straight up.
Danault is an average 2C or a good 3C if your team is any good. Not a 1C.
Jan. 15, 2021 at 2:39 p.m.
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You know nothing JS
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Quoting: SociallyHawkward
PLD is better than Suzuki.
Can make cap work in any trade cus it certainly wouldn't be PLD for KK straight up.
Danault is an average 2C or a good 3C if your team is any good. Not a 1C.


Cant argue with a guy without arguments
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Jan. 15, 2021 at 3:01 p.m.
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Quoting: SociallyHawkward
PLD is better than Suzuki.
Can make cap work in any trade cus it certainly wouldn't be PLD for KK straight up.
Danault is an average 2C or a good 3C if your team is any good. Not a 1C.


But PLD isnt better than Suzuki. In terms of Value right now they're equal. There is also a legit argument that Suzuki is better. PLD is clearly better than KK right now and for that he has higher value but in terms of ceiling its similar. I can get down with a KK plus type of trade but if I'm the habs I'd push Danault plus picks and prospects more. They have a ton of assets that could get PLD that would not include KK or Suzuki. If we are strictly speaking value of PLD. Columbus can ask for whatever they want but with MB's track record I doubt the habs are going to overpay for PLD. Especially since they are already set at C
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Jan. 16, 2021 at 10:01 a.m.
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Quoting: Commonsense27
But PLD isnt better than Suzuki. In terms of Value right now they're equal. There is also a legit argument that Suzuki is better. PLD is clearly better than KK right now and for that he has higher value but in terms of ceiling its similar. I can get down with a KK plus type of trade but if I'm the habs I'd push Danault plus picks and prospects more. They have a ton of assets that could get PLD that would not include KK or Suzuki. If we are strictly speaking value of PLD. Columbus can ask for whatever they want but with MB's track record I doubt the habs are going to overpay for PLD. Especially since they are already set at C


PLD and Suzuki both have way higher ceilings than KK. PLD is a proven commodity and Suzuki had 1 pretty good season. I'm fine with mtl saying Suzuki is off the table but to most mtl fans won't even give up KK. It's ridiculous. PLD is a really good young 1C with team control who's been putting up points on a bad offensive team. Those guys are never available via trade. The cost is gonna be high. Danault doesn't get it done. Not including a promising young center doesn't get it done. Cbj isn't about to have Foudy as their 1C. Start thinking about what the team you're trading with wants and stop thinking you can get one of the most rare and valuable assets on the trade market without giving up some pieces you're not too happy to lose.
Jan. 16, 2021 at 11:42 a.m.
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Quoting: SociallyHawkward
PLD and Suzuki both have way higher ceilings than KK. PLD is a proven commodity and Suzuki had 1 pretty good season. I'm fine with mtl saying Suzuki is off the table but to most mtl fans won't even give up KK. It's ridiculous. PLD is a really good young 1C with team control who's been putting up points on a bad offensive team. Those guys are never available via trade. The cost is gonna be high. Danault doesn't get it done. Not including a promising young center doesn't get it done. Cbj isn't about to have Foudy as their 1C. Start thinking about what the team you're trading with wants and stop thinking you can get one of the most rare and valuable assets on the trade market without giving up some pieces you're not too happy to lose.


I dont understand the mind set of saying Danault doesn't get it done. When you could add multiple first rounders, Caufield, Struble, Norlinder, Romanov (they wont) Guhle, etc etc etc. Clearly you can add a ton to Danault trsde that in terms of value get it done. And KK's ceiling is very high. You can say the odds of actually fulfilling that ceiling is low compared to PLD's odds and that's definitely true at this moment. That's why I wouldn't but I could live with and understand a KK plus type of trade. Suzuki imo will be the more complete player than PLD when they hit their peak. So imo they cant even entertain that possibility of Suzuki being included.
 
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