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Created by: Leafs_fan13
Initial Creation Date: Jan 15, 2021
Published: Jan 15 at 11:57
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Trades
TOR
  1. Cole, Ian
COL
  1. Andersen, Frederik
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (TOR)
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
Buried
  • Pierre Engvall: $175,000 ($1,250,000)
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2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2023
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$78,146,408$0$0$3,353,592
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
TOR
Robertson, Nicholas
$821,667
LW
RFA - 3
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
TOR
Vesey, Jimmy
$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Thornton, Joe
$700,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Simmonds, Wayne
$1,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$874,125
LD
RFA - 1
TOR
Dell, Aaron
$800,000
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Lehtonen, Mikko
$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
COL
Cole, Ian
$3,450,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
TOR
Barabanov, Alexander
$925,000 ($0)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
TOR
Bogosian, Zach
$1,000,000 ($0)
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Holl, Justin
$2,000,000 ($925,000)
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167 ($0)
LD
RFA - 2
TOR
Brooks, Adam
$725,000 ($0)
C
RFA - 2
TOR
Boyd, Travis
$700,000 ($0)
C, RW
UFA - 1

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Jan 16 at 12:08
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It's been 2 games. He hasn't been good and needs to be better, yes. But the team hasn't helped out much in front of him. Plus Freddy's always been a slow starter. Moving a top 10-13 goalie in the league for a d-man that doesn't even crack their top 6 only makes the team worse.

Relax. 54 games left still.
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Jan 16 at 12:16
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And why do the avs want your under performing goalie?
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Jan 16 at 12:32
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Quoting: coga16
And why do the avs want your under performing goalie?


Avs would jump so fast on this...
Jan 16 at 12:53
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Quoting: mhockey91
Avs would jump so fast on this...


You haven’t been watching leafs or avs game this season I assume...
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Jan 16 at 12:58
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Quoting: coga16
You haven’t been watching leafs or avs game this season I assume...


It’s 2 games in pal. Having a tandom of Grub/Anderson would go miles in a shortened season
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Jan 16 at 1:04
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Quoting: mhockey91
It’s 2 games in pal. Having a tandom of Grub/Anderson would go miles in a shortened season


But 4 years of Freddie bring 0-8 in series clinching games with a 880 sv% and a gaa over 3

He’ not an upgrade over grubauer, he’s an older more expensive lateral move. Why do the avs want a 5m under performing back up?
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Jan 16 at 1:10
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Quoting: coga16
But 4 years of Freddie bring 0-8 in series clinching games with a 880 sv% and a gaa over 3

He’ not an upgrade over grubauer, he’s an older more expensive lateral move. Why do the avs want a 5m under performing back up?


He probably is an upgrade over Grubaer tbh. He definitely has been better in the regular season and while he hasn’t been “clutch” in the playoffs his team is definitely responsible for some of that. Anderson is worth way more than Cole, a guy who will rotate in and out of Avs lineup. This is a clear W. I’m not a fan of either team and even I can see it
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Jan 16 at 1:17
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Quoting: mhockey91
He probably is an upgrade over Grubaer tbh. He definitely has been better in the regular season and while he hasn’t been “clutch” in the playoffs his team is definitely responsible for some of that. Anderson is worth way more than Cole, a guy who will rotate in and out of Avs lineup. This is a clear W. I’m not a fan of either team and even I can see it


Freddie isn’t a clear upgrade though, so Freddie is only as good as the team in front of him? So perhaps he’s not actually a very good goalie if that’s the case. It’s 4 years of failure of him, this isn’t an isolated thing, he’s not a cup contending goalie you can trust

And with goalie aging curves based on historical data he’s at age Of decline. Easy pass as he’s not worth the risk especially since he hasn’t done what grubi has done in both his tests with the avs...win playoff rounds

There us a reason why leaf fans have wanted to get rid of him so badly all offseason. It’s bc exactly this
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Jan 16 at 1:22
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Quoting: coga16
Freddie isn’t a clear upgrade though, so Freddie is only as good as the team in front of him? So perhaps he’s not actually a very good goalie if that’s the case. It’s 4 years of failure of him, this isn’t an isolated thing, he’s not a cup contending goalie you can trust

And with goalie aging curves based on historical data he’s at age Of decline. Easy pass as he’s not worth the risk especially since he hasn’t done what grubi has done in both his tests with the avs...win playoff rounds

There us a reason why leaf fans have wanted to get rid of him so badly all offseason. It’s bc exactly this


If you threw Freddy on Avs man the narrative would be so different. Grubs is an average goalie. Freddy is better than that. And plus no one is saying they’d have to get rid of Grubaer. They’d simply have both, and they would split games which is especially helpful during a back to back. If you think grubs is better than Freddy whatever. You’re wrong, but whatever. But there is absolutely no denying that he’s a clear upgrade over your backup goalie and definitely worth more than cole. Leafs fans overreact on this site. I wouldn’t trust their opinion 90% of the time
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Jan 16 at 1:24
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Quoting: mhockey91
If you threw Freddy on Avs man the narrative would be so different. Grubs is an average goalie. Freddy is better than that. And plus no one is saying they’d have to get rid of Grubaer. They’d simply have both, and they would split games which is especially helpful during a back to back. If you think grubs is better than Freddy whatever. You’re wrong, but whatever. But there is absolutely no denying that he’s a clear upgrade over your backup goalie and definitely worth more than cole. Leafs fans overreact on this site. I wouldn’t trust their opinion 90% of the time


Avs goaltending is not a problem, that’s the point here,
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Jan 16 at 1:45
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Quoting: coga16
Avs goaltending is not a problem, that’s the point here,


It’s not a problem, but if you can upgrade it for that price only a fool would say no
Jan 16 at 2:32
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Is it Andersen, or the horrible defense in front of him.......
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Jan 16 at 1:13
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mabye at the deadline. have to see how grubauer and fancouz hold up.
Jan 16 at 1:15
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Quoting: coga16
You haven’t been watching leafs or avs game this season I assume...


even anderson would have had a good game last night with the avs. why on earth would you ever base your assessment of a goalie on the first 2 games of the season. a lot of goalies pick up steam as the season goes on.
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Jan 16 at 1:17
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Quoting: mhockey91
It’s not a problem, but if you can upgrade it for that price only a fool would say no


right now i think the avs would pass. they'd have to see if grubauer can stay healthy and fancouz plays well. if the avs wanted to make the trade i can't really argue the value, that's a good deal for the avs.
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Jan 16 at 1:56
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The Avs should, and would, pass on Anderson. He's no upgrade over the current tandem.
Jan 18 at 3:45
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Quoting: TJTwolf
The Avs should, and would, pass on Anderson. He's no upgrade over the current tandem.


@coga16 @mhockey91

If this trade came across sakics desk he would for sure pull the trigger... you have a platoon 6th dman worth 4.25 mill for a goalie who plays 60 games a year being hung out to dry every night by his team..

If toronto does this trade they have given up for the season so it's probably not an issue..

Colorados goaltending isnt an issue if they are healthy, what would it hurt if going into the deadline you stick Andersen up in the pressbox just in case when you still have toews, graves, girard, EJ, timmins, byram, makar, and gilbert.
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Jan 18 at 8:46
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Quoting: JeffW
@coga16 @mhockey91

If this trade came across sakics desk he would for sure pull the trigger... you have a platoon 6th dman worth 4.25 mill for a goalie who plays 60 games a year being hung out to dry every night by his team..

If toronto does this trade they have given up for the season so it's probably not an issue..

Colorados goaltending isnt an issue if they are healthy, what would it hurt if going into the deadline you stick Andersen up in the pressbox just in case when you still have toews, graves, girard, EJ, timmins, byram, makar, and gilbert.


Exactly my point! It’s not like Colorado needs to do this trade, but it’s a very cheap goaltender upgrade. We saw what happened last year with their goalie injuries. Never hurts to have extra insurance
Jan 18 at 1:05
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Quoting: mhockey91
Exactly my point! It’s not like Colorado needs to do this trade, but it’s a very cheap goaltender upgrade. We saw what happened last year with their goalie injuries. Never hurts to have extra insurance


Disagree it sends the wrong message that you don’t trust your current goalies abilities, they got injured not under preform, if you bring in a goalie lurking as a healthy scratch for no reason you are risking a serious jeopardy of creating locker room tenting.

Why rail road your locker room bc you think nibbling around the edges just in case.

Unless there is an injury there is legit no reason for such a move
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Jan 19 at 5:26
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Quoting: coga16
Disagree it sends the wrong message that you don’t trust your current goalies abilities, they got injured not under preform, if you bring in a goalie lurking as a healthy scratch for no reason you are risking a serious jeopardy of creating locker room tenting.

Why rail road your locker room bc you think nibbling around the edges just in case.

Unless there is an injury there is legit no reason for such a move



So you don’t wanna trade Cole for Freddy Andersson yet Sakic trades Cole for a clear downgrade?
Jan 19 at 5:28
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Quoting: mhockey91
So you don’t wanna trade Cole for Freddy Andersson yet Sakic trades Cole for a clear downgrade?


Its not what avs are giving up, its bringing in a goalie for no reason and sending the wrong message to your goalies that have performed for you as well as complicate the matters of getting the answers on Grubauer, you dont do that by brining in a goalie mid season if hes healthy and hes performing. NO reason for it
 
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