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Roslovic

Created by: Marino4Norris
Initial Creation Date: Jan 18, 2021
Published: Jan 18 at 9:29
Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Roslovic, Jack1$1,500,000
Trades
PIT
  1. Roslovic, Jack [RFA Rights]
  2. 2021 6th round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. Sceviour, Colton
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (PIT)
Buyouts
  • Jack Johnson: $1,166,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Nick Bjugstad: $2,050,000 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
PIT
WPG
PIT
WSH
ANA
2022
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
2023
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$75,781,842$0$1,700,000$5,718,158

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
PIT
Zucker, Jason
$5,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
PIT
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
RW
RFA - 2
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
PIT
Rust, Bryan
$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
PIT
McCann, Jared
$2,940,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
PIT
Jankowski, Mark
$700,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
$3,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
PIT
Aston-Reese, Zach
$1,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
$750,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
Roslovic, Jack
$1,500,000
RW, C
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
$4,100,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Letang, Kris
$7,250,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
$3,500,000
G
UFA - 3
PIT
Pettersson, Marcus
$4,025,175
LD
UFA - 5
PIT
Marino, John
$925,000
RD
UFA - 1
PIT
DeSmith, Casey
$1,250,000
G
UFA - 2
PIT
Riikola, Juuso
$1,150,000
LD
UFA - 2
PIT
Ruhwedel, Chad
$700,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
PIT
O'Connor, Drew
$925,000
LW
RFA - 2
PIT
Matheson, Michael
$4,875,000
LD
UFA - 6
PIT
Rodrigues, Evan
$700,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
PIT
Ceci, Cody
$1,250,000
RD
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
PIT
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
$863,333 ($0)
LD
RFA - 2
PIT
Trotman, Zach
$700,000 ($0)
RD
UFA - 1
PIT
Czuczman, Kevin
$700,000 ($0)
LD
UFA - 1
PIT
Lagacé, Maxime
$700,000 ($0)
G
UFA - 1
PIT
D'Orio, Alex
$733,333 ($0)
G
RFA - 2

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Rust, B.
Guentzel, J.
Crosby, S.
Letang, K.
Malkin, E.
Power Play 2
Roslovic, J.
Zucker, J.
McCann, J.
Marino, J.
Riikola, J.
Penalty Kill 1
Blueger, T.
Kapanen, K.
Dumoulin, B.
Letang, K.
Penalty Kill 2
Jankowski, M.
Tanev, B.
Pettersson, M.
Marino, J.

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Jan 18 at 9:32
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Jets have been said to been wanting a d-man for Roslovic. I could see a swap of Roslovic and maybe a lower pick (5th-7th) for Pierre-Olivier Joseph making sense. POJ is blocked by Pittsburgh's d-man for awhile so he might be available and it suits what the Jets are looking for
Jan 18 at 9:34
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
Jets have been said to been wanting a d-man for Roslovic. I could see a swap of Roslovic and maybe a lower pick (5th-7th) for Pierre-Olivier Joseph making sense. POJ is blocked by Pittsburgh's d-man for awhile so he might be available and it suits what the Jets are looking for


Could see Riikola but doubt POJ would be available, org is pretty high on him

Winnipeg was scouting last game, so assume they would be looking at someone that played in that game

Also doesn't really make sense for Pittsburgh to add a forward without moving one out
Jan 18 at 9:40
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
Could see Riikola but doubt POJ would be available, org is pretty high on him

Winnipeg was scouting last game, so assume they would be looking at someone that played in that game

Also doesn't really make sense for Pittsburgh to add a forward without moving one out


I don't think Riikkola wild fit Winnipeg because of the age difference. Jets lose too much value on age alone there.

& just because they're scouting them doesn't mean it has to be a roster player they're after. Where else can they scout right now? Can't scout AHL or junior and can't travel overseas. They literally HAVE to scout the NHL team
Jan 18 at 9:44
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
I don't think Riikkola wild fit Winnipeg because of the age difference. Jets lose too much value on age alone there.

& just because they're scouting them doesn't mean it has to be a roster player they're after. Where else can they scout right now? Can't scout AHL or junior and can't travel overseas. They literally HAVE to scout the NHL team


Don't really see age as mattering much here... but the difference between Riikola and Roslovic is virtually the same as Roslovic and POJ, which is what you proposed...

The real value is the ELC, which POJ has and Roslovic does not. With the upcoming expansion draft I really don't see that making any sense for Pittsburgh

In terms of scouting, they could also choose not to. Only four teams scouted that game. Just being in the rink says they have some interest in the players on the ice
Jan 18 at 9:53
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Definite no from Winnipeg. Sceviour does nothing for Winnipeg.
Jan 18 at 9:57
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Quoting: Windjammer
Definite no from Winnipeg. Sceviour does nothing for Winnipeg.


Would be a significant upgrade on what they rolled out for their fourth line tonight, and you also ignored the 2nd
Jan 18 at 10:09
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
Would be a significant upgrade on what they rolled out for their fourth line tonight, and you also ignored the 2nd


The second is nice, but Sceviour is waiver wire fodder. The 6th is far more valuable than Sceviour. The Jets would want a young, equaled skilled defenseman.
Jan 18 at 10:14
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Quoting: Windjammer
The second is nice, but Sceviour is waiver wire fodder. The 6th is far more valuable than Sceviour. The Jets would want a young, equaled skilled defenseman.


Sceviour is a legitimate upgrade over guys like Appleton, Lewis, Thompson getting minutes in the Jets bottom 6 so no idea where the waiver wire comment comes from

An equally skilled defenseman would be someone like Riikola, who I mentioned before. Winger that can't crack the top 6 for defenseman that can't crack the top 4
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Jan 18 at 10:20
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
Sceviour is a legitimate upgrade over guys like Appleton, Lewis, Thompson getting minutes in the Jets bottom 6 so no idea where the waiver wire comment comes from

An equally skilled defenseman would be someone like Riikola, who I mentioned before. Winger that can't crack the top 6 for defenseman that can't crack the top 4


You're better off keeping Sceviour and Riikola then if they are so valuable and you don't value. To Winnipeg both hold zero interest and even less value due to age and contract. As I said Roslovic will be moved for a young player.

Just makes me wonder why you want Roslovic so badly when he isn't worth anything according to you and you are willing to give up old players that hold such superior value to Pittsburgh.
Jan 18 at 10:29
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Quoting: Windjammer
You're better off keeping Sceviour and Riikola then if they are so valuable and you don't value. To Winnipeg both hold zero interest and even less value due to age and contract. As I said Roslovic will be moved for a young player.

Just makes me wonder why you want Roslovic so badly when he isn't worth anything according to you and you are willing to give up old players that hold such superior value to Pittsburgh.


Absolutely bizarre comment

Definitely not the biggest Roslovic fan but there's a seemingly legitimate rumor out that Pittsburgh had interest so I was spitballing on a fair trade, if that upsets you I would recommend just ignoring it
Jan 18 at 10:51
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Salty Pharrow incoming.
Jan 18 at 10:56
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I just don’t see going after a guy complaining about playing Third line winger minutes instead of top 6 center minutes being happy with 4th line winger minutes I sense some really bad ju ju on this idea
Jan 18 at 10:57
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
Absolutely bizarre comment

Definitely not the biggest Roslovic fan but there's a seemingly legitimate rumor out that Pittsburgh had interest so I was spitballing on a fair trade, if that upsets you I would recommend just ignoring it


This guy doesn’t know is hockey, he plays the Xbox
Saying a 6th have much more value than Sceviour, a serviceable 4th liner in those circumstances is worth more than a poor 6th rd pick
Jan 18 at 11:00
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Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
I just don’t see going after a guy complaining about playing Third line winger minutes instead of top 6 center minutes being happy with 4th line winger minutes I sense some really bad ju ju on this idea


I can agree with this but the rumor is out there

In theory he would be the first up when injuries happen and/or if Kap doesn’t fit or Rust continues to struggle

Also put him on the second power play intentionally
Jan 18 at 11:00
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
I can agree with this but the rumor is out there

In theory he would be the first up when injuries happen and/or if Kap doesn’t fit or Rust continues to struggle

Also put him on the second power play intentionally

Probably started by someone in Winnipeg to jack up the price
Jan 18 at 11:02
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Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
Probably started by someone in Winnipeg to jack up the price


“JR is interested, better offer a first to match”

Kind of makes sense but I do think the fit is there outside of usage concerns
Jan 18 at 11:05
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
“JR is interested, better offer a first to match”

Kind of makes sense but I do think the fit is there outside of usage concerns


I’m just a guy that’s not real big on bringing malcontents and then doing exactly what they were doing in the last place they were in doesn’t make sense to me
Jan 18 at 11:34
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Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
I’m just a guy that’s not real big on bringing malcontents and then doing exactly what they were doing in the last place they were in doesn’t make sense to me


I agree but Kapanen/Rust are no Laine/Wheeler
Jan 18 at 11:39
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
I agree but Kapanen/Rust are no Laine/Wheeler

He wants to play center and that’s not happening on Pittsburgh
Jan 18 at 11:43
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Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
He wants to play center and that’s not happening on Pittsburgh


Have not seen that
Jan 19 at 6:00
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Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
I just don’t see going after a guy complaining about playing Third line winger minutes instead of top 6 center minutes being happy with 4th line winger minutes I sense some really bad ju ju on this idea


This is exactly it. Nor is he gonna be happy with the league min deal he should get, because anything over what they paid ZAR is an overpayment. The guy played his own way down the ladder.

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Salty Pharrow incoming.


Whinny Whitney was here.

Quoting: Marino4Norris
Sceviour is a legitimate upgrade over guys like Appleton, Lewis, Thompson getting minutes in the Jets bottom 6 so no idea where the waiver wire comment comes from

An equally skilled defenseman would be someone like Riikola, who I mentioned before. Winger that can't crack the top 6 for defenseman that can't crack the top 4


This is really the exact value here.
He's not worth nearly what WPG fans want to get for him. It's total over valuation. He didn't get C minutes in WPG because he couldn't play it at the NHL level. He worked his way down the depth chart as he didn't do anything with the 15 minutes of ice time they gave him at even strength every night.

I'm not even a fan of bringing this guy in. We've seen this act over and over before. JR brings in a circus of reclamation projects hoping to find gold but doesn't. That same act has killed the defense.
We already got 3 of them on this team in Matheson, Jankowski and Ceci. We don't really need another. The more dead weight a boat has to carry eventually there is enough weight that sinks the ship.
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