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Pierre-Luc to Habs

Created by: TheChief
Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 19, 2021
Published: Jan. 19, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
CBJ
  1. Byron, Paul
  2. Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
  3. Norlinder, Mattias [Reserve List]
  4. 2021 1st round pick (MTL)
2.
CHI
  1. Kulak, Brett
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (CHI)
Buyouts
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$74,991,309$0$1,487,500$6,508,691
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
C
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 7
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$4,800,000$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,083,333$3,083,333
C
UFA - 1
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$950,000$950,000
C
UFA - 1
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$2,125,000$2,125,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 2
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$2,600,000$2,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 6
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$4,350,000$4,350,000
G
UFA - 1
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$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$735,000$735,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$771,666$771,666 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
G
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
UFA - 1

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Jan. 19, 2021 at 12:27 p.m.
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Paul Byron has minus value
Jan. 19, 2021 at 12:35 p.m.
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Why is everyone willing to give up 3 1sts for PLD? He is not Barkov or Aho or Draisaitl! 2 1sts and a 2nd should be max value.
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Jan. 19, 2021 at 12:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
Why is everyone willing to give up 3 1sts for PLD? He is not Barkov or Aho or Draisaitl! 2 1sts and a 2nd should be max value.


yes please
Jan. 19, 2021 at 12:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
Why is everyone willing to give up 3 1sts for PLD? He is not Barkov or Aho or Draisaitl! 2 1sts and a 2nd should be max value.


...But this trade essentially has 2 1sts, a 3rd, and a cap dump...
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Jan. 19, 2021 at 12:47 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
Why is everyone willing to give up 3 1sts for PLD? He is not Barkov or Aho or Draisaitl! 2 1sts and a 2nd should be max value.


Aho Barkov and Draisaitl would cost more than 3 firsts.. Not to mention this PLD trade is only giving up 2 firsts. Norlinder was a third round pick. Byron is a cap dump.
Jan. 19, 2021 at 12:51 p.m.
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Quoting: SociallyHawkward
Aho Barkov and Draisaitl would cost more than 3 firsts.. Not to mention this PLD trade is only giving up 2 firsts. Norlinder was a third round pick. Byron is a cap dump.


Norlinder WAS a 3rd round pick but his stock has risen and it would cost a 1st to move him out of Montreal
Jan. 19, 2021 at 12:53 p.m.
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Quoting: Lenny7
...But this trade essentially has 2 1sts, a 3rd, and a cap dump...


Norlinder's value at this point would be a 1st. Even though he was a 3rd round draft pick his stock has risen enough to warrant not giving him up for less than a 1st hence the comment of 3 1sts!
Jan. 19, 2021 at 1:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
Why is everyone willing to give up 3 1sts for PLD? He is not Barkov or Aho or Draisaitl! 2 1sts and a 2nd should be max value.


Quoting: Lenny7
...But this trade essentially has 2 1sts, a 3rd, and a cap dump...


Quoting: SociallyHawkward
Aho Barkov and Draisaitl would cost more than 3 firsts.. Not to mention this PLD trade is only giving up 2 firsts. Norlinder was a third round pick. Byron is a cap dump.


Just because a guy was drafted in the 1st round or whatever round, doesn't mean that's their value. Saying Kotkaniemi is worth a 1st is false. A players value is based on how they perform and where the teams see their development going.

By this logic, you guy have players like Brayden Poibt worth a 3rd round pick. Or Henrik Lundqvist worth a 7th round pick in his prime. My point being, don't judge a player based on where they were drafted. They were drafted at their spot because of how a team judged them to be against their peers at 17/18 years old. That does not determine value.
Jan. 19, 2021 at 1:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
Just because a guy was drafted in the 1st round or whatever round, doesn't mean that's their value. Saying Kotkaniemi is worth a 1st is false. A players value is based on how they perform and where the teams see their development going.

By this logic, you guy have players like Brayden Poibt worth a 3rd round pick. Or Henrik Lundqvist worth a 7th round pick in his prime. My point being, don't judge a player based on where they were drafted. They were drafted at their spot because of how a team judged them to be against their peers at 17/18 years old. That does not determine value.


I agree with you on all points except KK's value has not changed. His usage so far this year is = to Suzuki and Danault in both TOI and matchups. What your suggesting is that his value has slipped because of under performance, which couldn't be further from the truth. That is why almost every deal for PLD has KK as the main piece.
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Jan. 19, 2021 at 3:25 p.m.
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I agree with you on all points except KK's value has not changed. His usage so far this year is = to Suzuki and Danault in both TOI and matchups. What your suggesting is that his value has slipped because of under performance, which couldn't be further from the truth. That is why almost every deal for PLD has KK as the main piece.


A really I wasn't suggesting that at all. I was just saying he wasn't worth a 1st. If someone offered just that, Bergevin would laugh. He'd be worth a bit more actually
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Jan. 19, 2021 at 3:34 p.m.
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A really I wasn't suggesting that at all. I was just saying he wasn't worth a 1st. If someone offered just that, Bergevin would laugh. He'd be worth a bit more actually


Thanks for clearing that up, I thought you were saying he was only worth like a 2nd now lol
 
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