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Kuemper

Created by: Richard88
Team: 2020-21 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 19, 2021
Published: Jan. 19, 2021
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Description
Francouz is out injured again. Time to invest in another goalie?
Trades
COL
  1. Kuemper, Darcy ($500,000 retained)
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. Graves, Ryan
  2. 2021 1st round pick (COL)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$80,434,720$0$2,500,000$1,065,280
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,571,429$5,571,429
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 5
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$874,125$874,125
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RD
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 7
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$3,333,333$3,333,333
G
UFA - 1
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$3,450,000$3,450,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
RD
RFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 2
Taxi Squad
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$925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
LD/RD
RFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RW
RFA - 3
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$842,500$842,500 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
G
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Jan. 19, 2021 at 3:58 p.m.
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No they do not have to and you don’t know what his issue is so let’s not jump to conclusions

also that is a pretty over reaction over payment trade as well. Dont panic and burn assets at game 3 of the season on a back up who hasn't had to even play yet
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Jan. 19, 2021 at 4:02 p.m.
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This seems like a steep price, but goaltending is arguably the most important position in hockey. And with losing Graves the avs have the depth to replace him, especially considering he has already gotten a decreased role this year, and now Timmins can get full time in the lineup.

Kuemper on the other hand is a great goalie and I would love to have a number one amazing goalie. Grubauer is good but there are definitely better goalies out there, and imo Kuemper is one of them.
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Jan. 19, 2021 at 4:50 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
No they do not have to and you don’t know what his issue is so let’s not jump to conclusions

also that is a pretty over reaction over payment trade as well. Dont panic and burn assets at game 3 of the season on a back up who hasn't had to even play yet


Grubauer is a decent goalie, good even
But Kuemper could be the missing piece to a Cup win for u guys
He’s pretty great on a crappy team
Imagine him with your lineup in front of him!
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Jan. 19, 2021 at 5:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Jdfitz77
Grubauer is a decent goalie, good even
But Kuemper could be the missing piece to a Cup win for u guys
He’s pretty great on a crappy team
Imagine him with your lineup in front of him!


also the awful message it sends to the rest of the team...2 goalies that have not at all played poorly, one in a well liked starter in grubeaur demoted to back up and a very well liked back up in Frankie sent on the waiver wire to be on the taxi squad

Optics matter and this is the kind of stuff that bothers a locker room, big goalie trades for starters never happen in season for a cup team, its a different story if they are playing poorly, but they aren't. Until then its just asking to be a powder keg
Jan. 19, 2021 at 5:37 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
also the awful message it sends to the rest of the team...2 goalies that have not at all played poorly, one in a well liked starter in grubeaur demoted to back up and a very well liked back up in Frankie sent on the waiver wire to be on the taxi squad

Optics matter and this is the kind of stuff that bothers a locker room, big goalie trades for starters never happen in season for a cup team, its a different story if they are playing poorly, but they aren't. Until then its just asking to be a powder keg


I don’t buy that line of reasoning
Kuemper is the level of guy that ANYONE who cares about winning will welcome with open arms

The only way it splits the locker room is if Kuemper comes in & starts playing like crap
But that’s the chance u take any time u try to upgrade a position
Jan. 19, 2021 at 5:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Jdfitz77
I don’t buy that line of reasoning
Kuemper is the level of guy that ANYONE who cares about winning will welcome with open arms

The only way it splits the locker room is if Kuemper comes in & starts playing like crap
But that’s the chance u take any time u try to upgrade a position


Quoting: Jdfitz77
I don’t buy that line of reasoning
Kuemper is the level of guy that ANYONE who cares about winning will welcome with open arms

The only way it splits the locker room is if Kuemper comes in & starts playing like crap
But that’s the chance u take any time u try to upgrade a position


if any team should be advocate for Kuemper its your the sabres. Unless they are swapping Grubi for him straight up it makes 0 sense bc why would you block a guy from playing when they have to make a decision if they are signing him to an extension or not.

You dont do this move if you are planning on keeping Grubi or considering it. Its a mess of an idea and why teams never do that move in season especially cup teams.

You should know, last time that happened was Miller to the Blues and they made him the starter and that blew up in their face
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Jan. 19, 2021 at 5:53 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
if any team should be advocate for Kuemper its your the sabres. Unless they are swapping Grubi for him straight up it makes 0 sense bc why would you block a guy from playing when they have to make a decision if they are signing him to an extension or not.

You dont do this move if you are planning on keeping Grubi or considering it. Its a mess of an idea and why teams never do that move in season especially cup teams.

You should know, last time that happened was Miller to the Blues and they made him the starter and that blew up in their face


1- I’d love Kuemper, but this isn’t a Kuemper to Buffalo post
2- the reason u keep Grubauer too, is just in case it doesn’t work
3- Vegas just essentially did this last year by trading for Lehner while still having Fleury

Goaltending is pretty damn important
If u get a chance to go from an average-ish goalie like Grubauer, to a legit top10 goalie like Kuemper.....
then u guys should absolutely do that imo
Kuemper is really, really good
And would be even better with a good team in front of him instead of a crap one
Jan. 19, 2021 at 5:55 p.m.
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1- I’d love Kuemper, but this isn’t a Kuemper to Buffalo post
2- the reason u keep Grubauer too, is just in case it doesn’t work
3- Vegas just essentially did this last year by trading for Lehner while still having Fleury

Goaltending is pretty damn important
If u get a chance to go from an average-ish goalie like Grubauer, to a legit top10 goalie like Kuemper.....
then u guys should absolutely do that imo
Kuemper is really, really good
And would be even better with a good team in front of him instead of a crap one


Vegas replaced Lehner with Fluery bc Fluery was bad, look at his stats last year and look at how much drama it caused
Grubauer is playing well, so that just proves the point of why you dont do it. It creates nonsense and story lines the team has to deal with
Jan. 19, 2021 at 9:13 p.m.
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Grubauer + pick/prospect for Kuemper might make sense in basically a goalie upgrade but otherwise the Avs would and should stand pat.
Jan. 20, 2021 at 10:05 a.m.
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Quoting: coga16
Vegas replaced Lehner with Fluery bc Fluery was bad, look at his stats last year and look at how much drama it caused
Grubauer is playing well, so that just proves the point of why you dont do it. It creates nonsense and story lines the team has to deal with


Kuemper is still a major upgrade over Grubauer
 
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