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(COL/MIN) - Cole for Pateryn

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Jan 20 at 9:06
#26
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Minnesota got the better player, but the Avs get cap space AND more space to play Bowen Byram. I say Avs win the deal.
Jan 20 at 9:23
#27
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Quoting: deys3232
Easy win for Colorado. Sakic just fleeced Guerin


How, also most of CapFriendly disagrees
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Jan 20 at 9:54
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Quoting: deys3232
Easy win for Colorado. Sakic just fleeced Guerin


I don't think it's possible to use the word fleece in any deal with Pateryn being what your team receives.
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Jan 20 at 9:57
#29
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Fair deal. Cole is probably the better player at a higher cap hit Minnesota can afford. Colorado gains cap space. Both teams got what they wanted.
Jan 20 at 10:00
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Quoting: wabit
Adding over $1m in cap for a 3rd pair d-man, another LHD to boot. Unless Cole hits waivers tomorrow it's a dumb move my Guerin, who doesn't seem to understand how the salary cap works at all.

The team's problems are at center, not the d-corps.


If there was a deal to be made for a center, I'm sure Guerin would have made it. Doesn't mean he shouldn't improve the team where he can and if nothing else, I'd guess Cole would be easier to flip at the deadline given his experience on 2 Cup winning teams.
Jan 20 at 10:22
#31
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Quoting: JayTea
I don't think it's possible to use the word fleece in any deal with Pateryn being what your team receives.


You are underestimating how good a healthy Greg Pateryn is
Jan 20 at 10:23
#32
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
How, also most of CapFriendly disagrees


I do not care about what most of cap friendly thinks. I know what I see. And I see a better defenseman in Greg Pateryn
Jan 21 at 6:37
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Quoting: deys3232
I do not care about what most of cap friendly thinks. I know what I see. And I see a better defenseman in Greg Pateryn


Well, you’re wrong since Ian Cole is clearly better
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Jan 21 at 7:55
#34
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Quoting: deys3232
You are underestimating how good a healthy Greg Pateryn is


Then I guess we haven't seen that in years because he's been nothing but a 6th D on Minnesota who quickly gets exposed when forced to play up in their lineup. Cole isn't much better, but he is definitely better.


Jan 21 at 9:51
#35
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Well, you’re wrong since Ian Cole is clearly better


But Im not wrong
Jan 21 at 9:58
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Quoting: JayTea
Then I guess we haven't seen that in years because he's been nothing but a 6th D on Minnesota who quickly gets exposed when forced to play up in their lineup. Cole isn't much better, but he is definitely better.




Maybe not look at stats where both players had outlier seasons. Pateryn had a bad injury riddled season, while Cole just had a career best season. I know its a 3 year scale, but ignoring this year will help show how good they really are.

Look at his 16-19 stats, Pateryn was an elite defensive defenseman
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Jan 21 at 10:54
#37
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Quoting: EmpressKayla
I presume COL needs cap space and wants to play Byram. That's the only justification for this trade; MIN got the better player, far and away.


Adding to this: considering the difference in player quality, COL should've pushed for an additional pick or prospect. They did get exactly what they wanted, but there was some opportunity cost here.
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