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Gibson - Thoughts

Created by: GMs
Initial Creation Date: Jan 19, 2021
Published: Jan 19 at 8:12
Team: 2020-21 Edmonton Oilers
Trades
EDM
  1. Gibson, John
  2. Jones, Max
ANA
  1. Bouchard, Evan
  2. Puljujärvi, Jesse
  3. Ennis, Tyler
  4. 2022 1st round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Wood, Miles
NJD
  1. Neal, James
  2. Lavoie, Raphael
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (EDM)
Buyouts
  • Andrej Sekera: $2,500,000
  • Benoit Pouliot: $1,333,333
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Milan Lucic: $750,000 (13%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
EDM
EDM
EDM
PIT
EDM
2022
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
2023
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$80,638,824$341,326$230,000$861,176
Left WingCenterRight Wing
NJD
Wood, Miles
$2,750,000
LW
RFA - 2
EDM
McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000
C
UFA - 6
EDM
Kassian, Zack
$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 4
EDM
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
$6,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
EDM
Draisaitl, Leon
$8,500,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 5
EDM
Yamamoto, Kailer
$894,166
RW, C
RFA - 1
ANA
Jones, Max
$863,333
LW
RFA - 1
EDM
Turris, Kyle
$1,650,000
C
UFA - 2
EDM
Kahun, Dominik
$975,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
EDM
Nygård, Joakim
$875,000
LW
UFA - 1
EDM
Shore, Devin
$700,000
LW, C, RW
RFA - 1
EDM
Archibald, Josh
$1,500,000
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
EDM
Nurse, Darnell
$5,600,000
LD
UFA - 2
EDM
Bear, Ethan
$2,000,000
RD
RFA - 2
ANA
Gibson, John
$6,400,000
G
UFA - 7
EDM
Koekkoek, Slater
$850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
EDM
Barrie, Tyson
$3,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
EDM
Koskinen, Mikko
$4,500,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
EDM
Jones, Caleb
$850,000
LD
RFA - 2
EDM
Larsson, Adam
$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
EDM
Russell, Kris
$4,000,000
LD/RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
EDM
Klefbom, Oscar
$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 3
EDM
Chiasson, Alex
$2,150,000
RW
UFA - 1
EDM
Smith, Mike
$1,500,000
G
NTC
UFA - 1
EDM
Haas, Gaëtan
$915,000
C
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
EDM
Khaira, Jujhar
$1,200,000 ($125,000)
C, LW
RFA - 1
EDM
Russell, Patrick
$700,000 ($0)
RW
UFA - 1
EDM
Lagesson, William
$725,000 ($0)
LD
RFA - 2
EDM
Skinner, Stuart
$784,166 ($0)
G
RFA - 1
EDM
Grosenick, Troy
$700,000 ($0)
G
UFA - 1
EDM
Rodrigue, Olivier
$795,000 ($0)
G
RFA - 3

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Jan 19 at 8:13
#1
Captain Nico
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Nope on that Devils trade
Jan 19 at 8:15
#2
Go Wings Go
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Bob Murray laugh at Ken Holland and blocks his number, Not even close for Gibson.
Jan 19 at 8:19
#3
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Bob Murray laugh at Ken Holland and blocks his number, Not even close for Gibson.


Bruh what ? Not even close ? I mean Broberg + Bouchard + 1st + what lmao
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Jan 19 at 8:19
#4
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eh it's not worth it, pay a 2nd and a prospect for Kuemper instead
Jan 19 at 8:20
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agreed thats fair tbh. goalies go for less than market value
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Jan 19 at 8:20
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Quoting: NoWah49
eh it's not worth it, pay a 2nd and a prospect for Kuemper instead


They won’t do it tho, maybe McLoad and a 1st
Jan 19 at 8:23
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Quoting: habsfan01
agreed thats fair tbh. goalies go for less than market value


No back up plan in Anaheim, building the squad from the goalie out, so not sure if they willing to start from scratch and if that deal convinces them too.
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Jan 19 at 8:24
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Quoting: Birtle34
No back up plan in Anaheim, building the squad from the goalie out, so not sure if they willing to start from scratch and if that deal convinces them too.


fair but if Anaheim had a up and commer that was ready theyd prolly do that
Jan 19 at 8:24
#9
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Ducks decline. Value is not awful, but the Ducks would only move Gibby if it’s an absolute overpay.

For the Oilers, I’d consider going after Raanta.
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Jan 19 at 8:27
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Quoting: habsfan01
agreed thats fair tbh. goalies go for less than market value


This is brutal 😂 no where close to actually get ANA to consider moving Gibson. Yeah Goalies go for less than Market but when you consider his contract Gibson is the most valuable goalie in the league. On top of trading him to a division rival this offer is laughed at and declined faster than it took me to type this out
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Jan 19 at 8:28
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Quoting: Salzy
This is brutal 😂 no where close to actually get ANA to consider moving Gibson. Yeah Goalies go for less than Market but when you consider his contract Gibson is the most valuable goalie in the league. On top of trading him to a division rival this offer is laughed at and declined faster than it took me to type this out


that is possible but thats a decent package
Jan 19 at 8:29
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Quoting: habsfan01
that is possible but thats a decent package


For sure it is, but decent doesn’t get ANA to consider moving Gibson. It would take a massive overpay, especially in Division (outside of covid) this isn’t close tbh
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Jan 19 at 8:30
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Quoting: Salzy
For sure it is, but decent doesn’t get ANA to consider moving Gibson. It would take a massive overpay, especially in Division (outside of covid) this isn’t close tbh


yes agreed
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Jan 19 at 8:34
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Quoting: habsfan01
agreed thats fair tbh. goalies go for less than market value


But there are duck fans who tell me it would cost rantanen for Gibson,
Jan 19 at 8:37
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Quoting: coga16
But there are duck fans who tell me it would cost rantanen for Gibson,


Rantanen is amazing so yes
Jan 19 at 8:54
#16
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Quoting: habsfan01
Rantanen is amazing so yes


I was mocking them bc no thats not what it costs to get Gibson
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Jan 19 at 9:48
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We do not need to upgrade over kosk.... that’s insane to even begin to consider paying a price that high.
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Jan 19 at 10:03
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Quoting: Timmah007
We do not need to upgrade over kosk.... that’s insane to even begin to consider paying a price that high.


it's a poor offer for Gibson
Jan 20 at 6:47
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Quoting: GMs
it's a poor offer for Gibson


If that’s considered a poor offer than I don’t even wanna know what’s acceptable....
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Jan 20 at 2:36
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Quoting: Timmah007
If that’s considered a poor offer than I don’t even wanna know what’s acceptable....


I don’t wanna know either lmao
Jan 20 at 3:23
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Quoting: coga16
I was mocking them bc no thats not what it costs to get Gibson


You're right - Gibson is worth much more. Rantanen is a cap dump unless MacKinnon is coming with him.
Jan 20 at 3:25
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Quoting: CD282
You're right - Gibson is worth much more. Rantanen is a cap dump unless MacKinnon is coming with him.


oh right its you, who cant admit how bad Drai is underlying numbers. So Gibson gets you Drai+++ with your logic
Jan 20 at 4:13
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Quoting: coga16
oh right its you, who cant admit how bad Drai is underlying numbers. So Gibson gets you Drai+++ with your logic


http://naturalstattrick.com/linestats.php?fromseason=20182019&thruseason=20202021&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&rate=n&team=COL&vteam=ALL&view=wowy&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=2018-10-03&td=2021-05-08&tgp=2000&strict=incl&p1=8478420&p2=8477492&p3=0&p4=0&p5=0
Jan 20 at 4:30
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Quoting: CD282
http://naturalstattrick.com/linestats.php?fromseason=20182019&thruseason=20202021&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&rate=n&team=COL&vteam=ALL&view=wowy&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=2018-10-03&td=2021-05-08&tgp=2000&strict=incl&p1=8478420&p2=8477492&p3=0&p4=0&p5=0


You have zero credibility bc you won’t admit at how much awful drai is in the same vein. Always deflecting from oiler players

If you want to rip one player in the manner finally admit it about Drai

Until then you are no better than a troll
Jan 20 at 4:35
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Edited Jan 20 at 4:40
Quoting: coga16
You have zero credibility bc you won’t admit at how much awful drai is in the same vein. Always deflecting from oiler players

If you want to rip one player in the manner finally admit it about Drai

Until then you are no better than a troll


LOL, who's trying to deflect? There's nothing about Draisaitl in this thread - the question was about Rantanen's value. You're trying to deflect from Rantanen's suckage when he's not with MacKinnon. All his "share" numbers are below 50%.

Draisaitl's GF% is better without McDavid. Over the past 75 games Draisaitl sports a 50.00 GF% with McDavid and 58.46% without.
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