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Jan. 20, 2021 at 11:59 a.m.
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The other ones Drai
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WHAT HAPPENED TO NUGE
NOOOOOOOOOO

use the money from Pearson and the extra money and sign him
Jan. 20, 2021 at 11:59 a.m.
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Please no Hamilton.
Jan. 20, 2021 at 12:00 p.m.
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Please no Hamilton.


Why not our defence is terrible and we could really use an all star level guy
Jan. 20, 2021 at 12:01 p.m.
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Quoting: ConnorMcJesus
WHAT HAPPENED TO NUGE
NOOOOOOOOOO

use the money from Pearson and the extra money and sign him


Yeah I thought about keeping nuge but theres a good chance he will want more money somewhere else then edmonton is willing to offer
Jan. 20, 2021 at 12:01 p.m.
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Why not our defence is terrible and we could really use an all star level guy



I don’t see him as a all star level guy. He’s okay, but he is a hockey room cancer so I’ve heard, we have Bouchard coming up, he’s not the best at defence. I don’t like him.
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Jan. 20, 2021 at 12:04 p.m.
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I don’t see him as a all star level guy. He’s okay, but he is a hockey room cancer so I’ve heard, we have Bouchard coming up, he’s not the best at defence. I don’t like him.


The defence part is an issue I won't lie but the locker room stuff was from the start of his career in boston it seems like hes matured since then with other teams.
Jan. 20, 2021 at 12:07 p.m.
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The defence part is an issue I won't lie but the locker room stuff was from the start of his career in boston it seems like hes matured since then with other teams.


I’m just not a fan from those reasons. We need a guy that’s good at defence. I rather wait, and go for Parayko, or Jones honestly.
Jan. 20, 2021 at 12:10 p.m.
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I’m just not a fan from those reasons. We need a guy that’s good at defence. I rather wait, and go for Parayko, or Jones honestly.


I just feel like we should be in a win now scenario. Lets say this year we keep playing like we already are and take a step back to where we were in 2017-2018. Then we dont do anything in the offseason and have another bad year. I feel like by then if that happens and star like mcdavid or drai will get tired of loosing and want out bad.
Jan. 20, 2021 at 12:13 p.m.
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Quoting: DRshnuckels87
I just feel like we should be in a win now scenario. Lets say this year we keep playing like we already are and take a step back to where we were in 2017-2018. Then we dont do anything in the offseason and have another bad year. I feel like by then if that happens and star like mcdavid or drai will get tired of loosing and want out bad.


Maybe... we will be better. They just need some time to click. Imagine how mad people would be if we got 1OA haha! I respect your opinion, I just don’t agree.
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Jan. 20, 2021 at 12:13 p.m.
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Other than the fact Dougie has said he wants to stay in Carolina and is willing to take a discount to remain with Slavin.... you're still not a contender 😁😁
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Jan. 20, 2021 at 12:14 p.m.
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I don’t see him as a all star level guy. He’s okay, but he is a hockey room cancer so I’ve heard, we have Bouchard coming up, he’s not the best at defence. I don’t like him.


He’s definitely an all star at least. His injury wrecked his Norris chances last year. Definitely had a shot.
Jan. 20, 2021 at 12:14 p.m.
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Other than the fact Dougie has said he wants to stay in Carolina and is willing to take a discount to remain with Slavin.... you're still not a contender 😁😁

Source? I heard he was considering moving.
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Jan. 20, 2021 at 12:15 p.m.
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Source? I heard he was considering moving.


https://www.nhl.com/news/dougie-hamilton-wants-to-stay-with-carolina-hurricanes/c-319996148
Jan. 20, 2021 at 12:15 p.m.
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He’s definitely an all star at least. His injury wrecked his Norris chances last year. Definitely had a shot.


Maybe... just not a fan that’s all. I don’t see how he would be chosen for the Norris though.
Jan. 20, 2021 at 12:16 p.m.
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Other than the fact Dougie has said he wants to stay in Carolina and is willing to take a discount to remain with Slavin.... you're still not a contender 😁😁


Yeah we wouldn't be a contender currently but once guys like broberg and bouchard can become all star level guys maybe I would say with this roster we are. Also this is only if hamilton hits the market which I dont expect him to.
Jan. 20, 2021 at 12:17 p.m.
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Yeah we wouldn't be a contender currently but once guys like broberg and bouchard can become all star level guys maybe I would say with this roster we are. Also this is only if hamilton hits the market which I dont expect him to.


Dougie said he wants to stay in Carolina, which makes me think he won't. I also still wouldn't buy EDM as a contender. Not until that goaltending is sorted. You're in the same boat as Carolina when those defenseman develop. You just need a goalie.
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Jan. 20, 2021 at 12:24 p.m.
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Maybe... just not a fan that’s all. I don’t see how he would be chosen for the Norris though.


They always go by points
Jan. 20, 2021 at 12:24 p.m.
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Dougie said he wants to stay in Carolina, which makes me think he won't. I also still wouldn't buy EDM as a contender. Not until that goaltending is sorted. You're in the same boat as Carolina when those defenseman develop. You just need a goalie.

Totally agree
Jan. 20, 2021 at 12:49 p.m.
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Good Opinion Haver
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I’m just not a fan from those reasons. We need a guy that’s good at defence. I rather wait, and go for Parayko, or Jones honestly.


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The defence part is an issue I won't lie but the locker room stuff was from the start of his career in boston it seems like hes matured since then with other teams.


What makes you guys think he's bad at defense? Parayko is better, sure, but Jones is far far worse and Hamilton is in the 88th percentile for all situations defense, that's insanely good. Here's a comparison of their player cards

For the record, the best guy the Oilers have at defense right now is Klefbom, and he's only in the 50th percentile. Hamilton would be an immediate upgrade defensively in a major way even if he's not the best available defensive defenseman that will be available over the next three or so years. Even if you could get Parayko or Jones, why would you wait an extra year and burn another year of prime McDavid and Draisaitl rolling with the defense you currently have?

I don't think Hamilton is moving but don't galaxy brain yourself out of pursuing an obviously elite player because he's a "locker room cancer" or he's "bad at defense" when it's pretty clear neither of those things are true. If it was true the Canes wouldn't be trying so hard to keep him, especially considering their defensive depth.
Jan. 20, 2021 at 1:22 p.m.
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I don’t see him as a all star level guy. He’s okay, but he is a hockey room cancer so I’ve heard, we have Bouchard coming up, he’s not the best at defence. I don’t like him.


Dougie Hamilton is one of the best defensemen in the nhl, fantastic at offense, defense, powerplay, and penalty kill
How can you say that he is not good at defense? It is just completely false
Jan. 20, 2021 at 1:37 p.m.
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They always go by points



Yah I don’t like that... doesn’t make much sense.
Jan. 20, 2021 at 1:39 p.m.
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What makes you guys think he's bad at defense? Parayko is better, sure, but Jones is far far worse and Hamilton is in the 88th percentile for all situations defense, that's insanely good. Here's a comparison of their player cards

For the record, the best guy the Oilers have at defense right now is Klefbom, and he's only in the 50th percentile. Hamilton would be an immediate upgrade defensively in a major way even if he's not the best available defensive defenseman that will be available over the next three or so years. Even if you could get Parayko or Jones, why would you wait an extra year and burn another year of prime McDavid and Draisaitl rolling with the defense you currently have?

I don't think Hamilton is moving but don't galaxy brain yourself out of pursuing an obviously elite player because he's a "locker room cancer" or he's "bad at defense" when it's pretty clear neither of those things are true. If it was true the Canes wouldn't be trying so hard to keep him, especially considering their defensive depth.


He is very bad at defence, and Jones is very underrated. I don’t like him, and I think he’s bad. That’s just my opinion.
Jan. 20, 2021 at 1:41 p.m.
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Dougie Hamilton is one of the best defensemen in the nhl, fantastic at offense, defense, powerplay, and penalty kill
How can you say that he is not good at defense? It is just completely false


It’s not false. Not even close. He’s not very good at defence. I wouldn’t trust him defensively, and on the PK. PP, and offence is his strong suit, while defence isn’t.
Jan. 20, 2021 at 2:23 p.m.
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Why not our defence is terrible and we could really use an all star level guy


Not at that price!
Jan. 20, 2021 at 2:46 p.m.
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Good Opinion Haver
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He is very bad at defence, and Jones is very underrated. I don’t like him, and I think he’s bad. That’s just my opinion.


Sure, and that's fine I guess, except that you're not giving any reasons as to why you think that. From what I can understand you just decided that was the case and then went with it. I am asking what makes you think one is bad at defense and one is good? Opinions are worthless without anything supporting them.

And Jones is certainly not underrated anymore, everyone has been (wrongly) putting him as like a top defenseman in the league for a bit now. He was #5 on the most recent NHL.com best defensemen list, which is stupid. He's not even the best defenseman on that team.
 
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