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Is PLD a Diva

Created by: MNBassman
Initial Creation Date: Jan 20, 2021
Published: Jan 20 at 11:59
Team: 2020-21 Minnesota Wild
Team Explanation
I don’t know PLD from a squirrel in my backyard, and I’ve heard reports that him wanting a big market might be over-blown. But...IF he is a diva, I want nothing to do with him...if he is not, this is my all-in offer for him.
For the record, I feel like I’m giving up too much here. What says you?
Trades
MIN
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc
  2. Savard, David
CBJ
  1. Dumba, Matt
  2. Bonino, Nick
  3. Beckman, Adam
  4. Khovanov, Alexander
  5. 2022 2nd round pick (MIN)
  6. 2021 1st round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
Basic breakdown: Dumba/Beckman/Khovanov/1st (lowest of the 2 - both top 5 protected) for PLD, Bonino and the 2nd for Savard.
Columbus’ prospect pool is horrible - maybe they tske this deal and use Bonino as a stopgap C and reload the cupboards with the prospects and picks...
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Devan Dubnyk: $2,166,666 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
MIN
MIN
MIN
PIT
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
2022
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
SJS
MIN
2023
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$80,574,422$0$925,000$925,578
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MIN
Foligno, Marcus
$2,875,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
CBJ
Dubois, Pierre-Luc
$5,000,000
C
RFA - 2
MIN
Kaprizov, Kirill
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
MIN
Fiala, Kevin
$3,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
MIN
Eriksson Ek, Joel
$1,487,500
C
RFA - 1
MIN
Johansson, Marcus
$4,500,000
C, LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
MIN
Parise, Zach
$7,538,461
LW
NMC
UFA - 5
MIN
Rask, Victor
$4,000,000
C
UFA - 2
MIN
Greenway, Jordan
$2,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
MIN
Sturm, Nico
$725,000
C
UFA - 2
MIN
Bjugstad, Nick
$2,050,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
MIN
Hartman, Ryan
$1,900,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
MIN
Mayhew, Gerald
$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MIN
Suter, Ryan
$7,538,461
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
MIN
Spurgeon, Jared
$7,575,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 7
MIN
Talbot, Cam
$3,666,667
G
UFA - 3
MIN
Brodin, Jonas
$4,166,667
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
CBJ
Savard, David
$4,250,000
RD
UFA - 1
MIN
Kähkönen, Kaapo
$725,000
G
RFA - 2
MIN
Soucy, Carson
$2,750,000
LD
UFA - 3
MIN
Cole, Ian
$3,450,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
MIN
Hunt, Brad
$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
MIN
Zuccarello, Mats
$6,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 4
MIN
Stalock, Alex
$785,000
G
UFA - 2
Taxi Squad
MIN
Rau, Kyle
$700,000 ($0)
LW, C
UFA - 1
MIN
Bartkowski, Matt
$700,000 ($0)
RD
UFA - 1
MIN
Mermis, Dakota
$700,000 ($0)
RD
UFA - 1
MIN
Johnson, Luke
$700,000 ($0)
C
RFA - 1
MIN
Hammond, Andrew
$700,000 ($0)
G
UFA - 1
MIN
Belpedio, Louis
$700,000 ($0)
RD
RFA - 1

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Jan 20 at 12:03
#1
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Value wise, in a vacuum, it's too much. But it also doesn't really do a whole lot for Columbus and what they want.
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Jan 20 at 12:08
#2
Jetsfan
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Its called an excuse...he hates Torts, I dont blame him, and he wants to leave...
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Jan 20 at 12:09
#3
Go Wild
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Funny, I've been sitting on an ACGM with a pretty similar trade, but something tells me Minnesota wouldn't be PLD's destination of choice, and that probably wouldn't make it worth it for the Wild to give up what it'd take to get him.
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Jan 20 at 12:16
#4
Habs4ever
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He is so not a diva. When he was in Cape Breton playing for the Screaming Eagles, he had a full two hour practice in the afternoon, he got up early and went to a smaller rink and shot 50 pucks, working on one timers. When the person passing him the pucks had to leave, he stayed by himself and shot fifty more, then went to the gym, then went to a 2 hour practice. This guy wants to win.
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Jan 20 at 12:18
#5
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MNBassman
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Quoting: Habs4ever
He is so not a diva. When he was in Cape Breton playing for the Screaming Eagles, he had a full two hour practice in the afternoon, he got up early and went to a smaller rink and shot 50 pucks, working on one timers. When the person passing him the pucks had to leave, he stayed by himself and shot fifty more, then went to the gym, then went to a 2 hour practice. This guy wants to win.


Thanks for sharing this!
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Jan 20 at 12:21
#6
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Quoting: Habs4ever
He is so not a diva. When he was in Cape Breton playing for the Screaming Eagles, he had a full two hour practice in the afternoon, he got up early and went to a smaller rink and shot 50 pucks, working on one timers. When the person passing him the pucks had to leave, he stayed by himself and shot fifty more, then went to the gym, then went to a 2 hour practice. This guy wants to win.


This doesn't preclude the idea that he's a diva.
Jan 20 at 12:23
#7
Hey Beter
Joined: Oct 2017
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Edited Jan 20 at 1:52
Jetman nails it here: Torts and his abrasive nature are the problem.

I'll give the man credit, he's achieved far more than I ever will, but Tortorella's tough-love approach is ridiculous in this day and age. There's been enough published regarding just baseline decency and positive reinforcement (not even to the levels of snowflake millennials, just like, respect) that would demonstrate John's overall ineffectiveness of connecting to his players.

I hope Jarmo and ownership look at the PLD situation for what it is: the team isn't good enough despite the coach having been able to turn them into something competitive enough to make the playoffs. Ditching the coach, keeping PLD, and bringing in more quality players is the only way the Jackets can hope to be successful during the 2020's. If they trade Dubois, they're probably looking at redoing their rebuild.
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Jan 20 at 12:29
#8
best poster
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I find it hilarious when people call hockey players divas, especially ones at the top level of the game.
Jan 20 at 12:31
#9
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Quoting: mondo
I find it hilarious when people call hockey players divas, especially ones at the top level of the game.


I find it hilarious that people think diva means lazy.
Jan 20 at 12:39
#10
Habs4ever
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Quoting: Caerii
This doesn't preclude the idea that he's a diva.


he is not. He is so blue collar worker. He wants to be the best and wants to be a good teammate. From PeeWee until a year ago, you never once heard any negative issues with PLD. He simply wants out of Columbus, just like Panarin, Bob, Duchene etc. The GM is a good guy but its the head coach they all want to get away from
Jan 20 at 12:40
#11
Ragsandbluesfan
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I mean... hes still showing up to work and doing his job
Jan 20 at 12:42
#12
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Quoting: Habs4ever
he is not. He is so blue collar worker. He wants to be the best and wants to be a good teammate. From PeeWee until a year ago, you never once heard any negative issues with PLD. He simply wants out of Columbus, just like Panarin, Bob, Duchene etc. The GM is a good guy but its the head coach they all want to get away from


Diva's have an inflated ego and an inflated sense of self, they want the spotlight on them, they think they're the best. Working hard and being a diva are not mutually exclusive traits. I'm not saying he's a diva, I don't know him well enough, but just because someone is a diva doesn't mean they're lazy or entitled.
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Jan 20 at 12:51
#13
Habs4ever
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Quoting: Caerii
Diva's have an inflated ego and an inflated sense of self, they want the spotlight on them, they think they're the best. Working hard and being a diva are not mutually exclusive traits. I'm not saying he's a diva, I don't know him well enough, but just because someone is a diva doesn't mean they're lazy or entitled.


I don't want to split hairs here nor go into a lengthy discourse but all athletes have a little bit of "diva" in them. Your word not mine. When I was a professional athlete, ( only one season) I was very confident, which some people saw as arrogant and cocky. It took me a few years to get humbled again to "rejoin" the rest of society. I have helped several players in this area in my consulting work. With all of this said, I do not believe PLD is a distraction to any team. You can go back to PeeWee and this is the first year his name is popping up like this, just like others that wanted to leave.
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Jan 20 at 1:43
#14
Not JoshAnderson17
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do you converse with the squirrel in your backyard regularly
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Jan 20 at 1:46
#15
BootBoi
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Dubois is NO diva!
He WAS the #1 C Columbus needed.
Now, he'll be the #1 C Habs NEED NOW!
Jan 20 at 1:50
#16
Thread Starter
MNBassman
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Quoting: Zuki9797
do you converse with the squirrel in your backyard regularly


Maybe...
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Jan 20 at 1:51
#17
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It's a lot but we need a player like him. I'd do it, not sure if Columbus does though. Still think it would come down to Boldy or Rossi going the other way
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Jan 20 at 5:57
#18
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I think it's a fair trade, but I wouldn't do it. Also, I think TanSor is right that we wouldn't get out of this without including Boldy/Rossi. The reason I wouldn't do it is I think that our next window opens about 2 years away when Boldy/Rossi get here and not right now. In which case that first round pick becomes even more important right now.

I'd be more interested in trading Dumba for a C2 and prospects (similar to the Zucker approach) because every trade for a C1 includes too many of our prospects. Let's build through these next couple of years of draft picks and target 2022 as our season.
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