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Compher to SJ

Created by: Richard88
Initial Creation Date: Jan 20, 2021
Published: Jan 20 at 4:40
Team: 2020-21 Colorado Avalanche
Trades
COL
  1. Nieto, Matt
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (SJS)
Additional Details:
Or another prospect/cheap depth forward
SJS
  1. Compher, J.T.
COL
  1. Bonino, Nick
MIN
  1. Ranta, Sampo [Reserve List]
  2. 2022 4th round pick (COL)
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Ian Cole: $800,000 (19%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
2022
COL
SJS
COL
COL
COL
COL
2023
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$78,926,387$0$2,500,000$2,573,613
Left WingCenterRight Wing
COL
Landeskog, Gabriel
$5,571,429
LW, C
NTC
UFA - 1
COL
MacKinnon, Nathan
$6,300,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 3
COL
Rantanen, Mikko
$9,250,000
RW
UFA - 5
COL
Burakovsky, André
$4,900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
COL
Kadri, Nazem
$4,500,000
C
NTC
UFA - 2
COL
Saad, Brandon
$5,000,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
COL
Nichushkin, Valeri
$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
MIN
Bonino, Nick
$4,100,000
C
UFA - 1
COL
Donskoi, Joonas
$3,900,000
RW
UFA - 3
COL
Calvert, Matt
$2,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
COL
Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard
$1,800,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
COL
Jost, Tyson
$874,125
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
COL
Girard, Samuel
$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 7
COL
Makar, Cale
$880,833
RD
RFA - 1
COL
Grubauer, Philipp
$3,333,333
G
UFA - 1
COL
Toews, Devon
$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 4
COL
Johnson, Erik
$6,000,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
COL
Francouz, Pavel
$2,000,000
G
UFA - 2
COL
Graves, Ryan
$3,166,667
LD
UFA - 3
COL
Timmins, Conor
$925,000
RD
RFA - 1
Taxi Squad
COL
Byram, Bowen
$894,167 ($0)
LD
RFA - 3
COL
Kaut, Martin
$863,333 ($0)
RW
RFA - 3
COL
Pateryn, Greg
$2,250,000 ($1,175,000)
RD
UFA - 1
COL
Werner, Adam
$842,500 ($0)
G
RFA - 1
COL
Gilbert, Dennis
$925,000 ($0)
LD
RFA - 1
COL
Sherwood, Kiefer
$750,000 ($0)
RW, C
RFA - 1
SJS
Nieto, Matt
$700,000 ($0)
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Jan 20 at 4:41
#1
Dr.
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Mighty Matt back in action
Jan 20 at 4:42
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Replace Ranta with a '21 2nd and you've got yourself a deal.
Jan 20 at 4:42
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Sharks not giving up a 2nd, 3rd at best
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Jan 20 at 4:43
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Jost being a bust ish is huge to the Avs. By now, we should be a 2C, or at least an upper tier 3C. Yet he's barely a 3rdliner
Jan 20 at 4:43
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Quoting: ArakinSkywalker
Mighty Matt back in action


Long Beach Native!
Jan 20 at 4:44
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Quoting: Caerii
Replace Ranta with a '21 2nd and you've got yourself a deal.


Avs don't have a 2021 2nd. Try again with something Avs do have...
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Jan 20 at 4:44
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Quoting: Richard88
Avs don't have a 2021 2nd. Try again with something Avs do have...


Then I guess it's their '21 1st. Oh and you can take out the 4th in that case.
Jan 20 at 4:45
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Sharks not giving up a 2nd, 3rd at best


Willing to throw in a kicker, or make it 2 3rd's?
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Jan 20 at 4:45
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Quoting: Caerii
Then I guess it's their '21 1st. Oh and you can take out the 4th in that case.


Definitely no to trading a 1st for a bottom 6 forward.
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Jan 20 at 4:47
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Quoting: Richard88
Definitely no to trading a 1st for a bottom 6 forward.


Well then it seems to me the Wild will be looking elsewhere to deal Bonino.
Jan 20 at 4:47
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Quoting: Richard88
This is exactly what Avs would do. I made a corresponding Avs AGM wink

It doesn't have to be Nieto, but I figured might as well pick someone with the cheapest possible contract and someone who already knows Bednar's systems just as a depth add for the playoffs.


Got it

I actually think this makes a lot of sense along with the Bonino move. He would be a great 3C and also gives the Avs more cap flexibility in the future since hes an expiring contract.

I wonder if they could fit both Compher and Bonino if we paid MIN a bit extra to retain
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Jan 20 at 4:52
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Jost being a bust ish is huge to the Avs. By now, we should be a 2C, or at least an upper tier 3C. Yet he's barely a 3rdliner


Rantanen being an elite 1st line forward is huge to the Avs. By now, he should have been a 50 point 2nd line RW. Yet he's a top 5 RW in the entire league.

Makar close to being a No.1 Dman is huge to the Avs. By now, he should be a 3rd pairing OFD, or maybe a 2nd pairing OFD if we're lucky. Yet he's an elite No.1 Dman in the making.

Timmins looking like a top 4 Dman is huge to the Avs....

etc etc etc

If Jost being a bust-ish is the price of hitting on all our other high picks, that's a price I'm glad to pay.

It would be nice if he could take the 3C role, but at least we are blessed with some other guys who can make up for his shortcoming.
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Jan 20 at 4:53
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Quoting: Caerii
Well then it seems to me the Wild will be looking elsewhere to deal Bonino.


Ok
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Jan 20 at 4:54
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Quoting: Richard88
Rantanen being an elite 1st line forward is huge to the Avs. By now, he should have been a 50 point 2nd line RW. Yet he's a top 5 RW in the entire league.

Makar close to being a No.1 Dman is huge to the Avs. By now, he should be a 3rd pairing OFD, or maybe a 2nd pairing OFD if we're lucky. Yet he's an elite No.1 Dman in the making.

Timmins looking like a top 4 Dman is huge to the Avs....

etc etc etc

If Jost being a bust-ish is the price of hitting on all our other high picks, that's a price I'm glad to pay.

It would be nice if he could take the 3C role, but at least we are blessed with some other guys who can make up for his shortcoming.


I'm sorry what?
Rantanen had sky high potential since day one
Makar wasn't the 2nd d-man to be drafted in his class for nothing
Jan 20 at 5:09
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
I'm sorry what?
Rantanen had sky high potential since day one
Makar wasn't the 2nd d-man to be drafted in his class for nothing


Yeah they had potential. But they weren't guaranteed to hit the ceiling of their potential. I mean, how many people thought Makar would take the league by storm as a rookie? Many people saw Jost as a sure-fire 2C.

Anyways, my point was simply that nobody is crying over Jost not making it as a 3C, because we've been so fortunate with how our other top prospects have turned out.

Finding a 3C via trade is much easier to do than finding a 1st line player because a pick doesn't develop as expected.
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Jan 20 at 5:15
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No from Minnesota. Again, Minnesota isn't trading Bonino much less for a winger prospect not needed.
Jan 20 at 5:20
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Quoting: Wildnochance
Since you can't read & understand, Minnesota is trying to win . So before you bash someone, learn to read. Wild won't trade him for a winger prospect.


Trying to win with Bonino as 1C? Good luck with that!

It's pretty clear that Guerin has been collecting assets he can cash in with at the deadline, starting with the Kunin trade which netted him two very good prospects and Bonino who will add further assets.
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Jan 20 at 5:29
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Quoting: Richard88
Trying to win with Bonino as 1C? Good luck with that!

It's pretty clear that Guerin has been collecting assets he can cash in with at the deadline, starting with the Kunin trade which netted him two very good prospects and Bonino who will add further assets.


Bonino is no longer the 1c . Also, yeah wild are trying to win because division is wral, & two, it was reported wild are trying to win so Kaprizov can be convinced to sign long term deal to match with fiala this off-season.

It was also reported dumba closeness with Kaprizov has made wild weary of trading dumba

Kunin trade was because of expansion. Not about trade deadline
Jan 20 at 5:38
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Jost being a bust ish is huge to the Avs. By now, we should be a 2C, or at least an upper tier 3C. Yet he's barely a 3rdliner


Jost is not a bust, he is an effective defensive forward with great underlying numbers, that is not a bust.

Lias Anderssen at 7th overall is a bust. Jost being an NHLer and one of the better forwards in his draft class is a testament of how poor that draft year was.
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Jan 20 at 5:55
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Neito leaves in free agency to sign with San Jose - Again
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Jan 20 at 6:58
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Compter is a cap dump to me. An okay third center whos payed a bit much. Would take him for free but thats it
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Jan 20 at 7:39
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Quoting: papishark
Compter is a cap dump to me. An okay third center whos payed a bit much. Would take him for free but thats it


Agreed.
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Jan 20 at 8:00
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No reason for SJ to trade a future for a depth piece that won't change anything.
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