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Jan. 20, 2021 at 8:21 p.m.
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Is it possible for CapFriendly to add a feature to the ACGM roster builder that can “retire” players to show cap implications?
Jan. 21, 2021 at 8:14 p.m.
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Is it possible for CapFriendly to add a feature to the ACGM roster builder that can “retire” players to show cap implications?


Why? In all but a handful of contracts (the illegal backdiving deals) the cap hit is essentially just erased from the cap. If you want to get rid of a player’s cap hit trade him or put him on LTIR.

And if you want to find the cap recapture for Crosby, Weber, Keith, Parise, Carter, Quick, or Suter (the only backdiving deals with more than 1 year left) you can just find them via a quick google search. It would be pretty useless for CapFriendly to add a feature that applies to only 7 players, and only if they retire while they’re under their current contract.
Jan. 22, 2021 at 10:13 a.m.
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Why? In all but a handful of contracts (the illegal backdiving deals) the cap hit is essentially just erased from the cap. If you want to get rid of a player’s cap hit trade him or put him on LTIR.

And if you want to find the cap recapture for Crosby, Weber, Keith, Parise, Carter, Quick, or Suter (the only backdiving deals with more than 1 year left) you can just find them via a quick google search. It would be pretty useless for CapFriendly to add a feature that applies to only 7 players, and only if they retire while they’re under their current contract.


You just explained my point... you can not accurately simulate a cap hit on some contracts should a player retire on the ACGM. It would be more accurate of a simulation if that feature was added.
Jan. 22, 2021 at 10:15 a.m.
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You just explained my point... you can not accurately simulate a cap hit on some contracts should a player retire on the ACGM. It would be more accurate of a simulation if that feature was added.


It’s literally 7 players. I know you’re obsessed with Toews retiring, but even if he did (which he won’t) his cap hit would be $0. If you’re so obsessed with Crosby, Weber, Keith, Parise, Carter, Quick, or Suter retiring, then just look it up yourself.
Jan. 22, 2021 at 10:22 a.m.
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There are many players who could be owed bonuses from the season prior that this would affect the cap even if retired also.
Jan. 22, 2021 at 10:55 a.m.
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There are many players who could be owed bonuses from the season prior that this would affect the cap even if retired also.


Are you talking about deferments? If so those don’t affect the cap.

If you’re taking about actual money, retirement is extremely simple. What they’ve already been paid, they get, what they haven’t been paid yet, they don’t get paid. There’s no cap implications about how much money is actually paid, just their cap hit while they’re on the team.
Jan. 22, 2021 at 11:29 a.m.
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That's not necessarily true. If a player has a performance bonus clause those cap implications are tagged on the next season's cap.
Jan. 22, 2021 at 12:27 p.m.
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That's not necessarily true. If a player has a performance bonus clause those cap implications are tagged on the next season's cap.


That has nothing to do with retirement though. Performance bonus overages are a normal part of the salary cap, usually with ELCs. And also, when was the last time there was a 35+ contract with performance bonuses that was longer than 1 year. If someone needs performance bonuses to make sure they produce/stay healthy, no one is giving them a multi-year deal.
Jan. 22, 2021 at 12:51 p.m.
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And also, when was the last time there was a 35+ contract with performance bonuses that was longer than 1 year.


I'll answer this question: Never,
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