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Merzlikins and Bonino

Created by: Richard88
Team: 2020-21 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 21, 2021
Published: Jan. 21, 2021
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  1. Bonino, Nick ($2,050,000 retained)
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20$81,500,000$81,471,429$0$5,000,000$28,571
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C
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LW, RW
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UFA - 1
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
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UFA - 1
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$2,050,000$2,050,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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C, RW
UFA - 3
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
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RD
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UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
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UFA - 7
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
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$3,333,333$3,333,333
G
UFA - 1
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$3,166,667$3,166,667
LD
UFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
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Taxi Squad
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$2,250,000$2,250,000 ($1,175,000$1M$1,175,000$1M)
RD
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$925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
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$863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
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RFA - 3
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$842,500$842,500 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
G
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
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Jan. 21, 2021 at 5:52 p.m.
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Bonino Bonino Bonino Bonino Bonino, Nick, BAAAAAAANNNNIIINNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Jan. 21, 2021 at 5:56 p.m.
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Said it before and I'll say it again, I love Bonino as a fit for the Avs. Really rounds out that center core
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Jan. 21, 2021 at 6:09 p.m.
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I dont really see the avs trading timmins
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Jan. 21, 2021 at 6:10 p.m.
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I like the Bonino deal but I feel like giving up Timmins for Merzlikins is pretty steep.
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Jan. 21, 2021 at 6:19 p.m.
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Would you need to move Francouz for cap reasons? If not, maybe a first and a lighter prospect instead of him? I think having Francouz at 3G would be more beneficial in down the stretch.
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Jan. 21, 2021 at 6:28 p.m.
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Columbus seems to like Merzlikins the most think Korpasalo is most likely available.
Jan. 21, 2021 at 7:02 p.m.
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Quoting: jnowariak
Would you need to move Francouz for cap reasons? If not, maybe a first and a lighter prospect instead of him? I think having Francouz at 3G would be more beneficial in down the stretch.


You mean the trade would be Timmins + 1st + B prospect for Merzlikins? Seems pretty steep...
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Jan. 21, 2021 at 7:24 p.m.
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You mean the trade would be Timmins + 1st + B prospect for Merzlikins? Seems pretty steep...


Nah, a 1st and a B prospect for Merzlikins. Maybe another late pick if a little more is needed.
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Jan. 21, 2021 at 7:30 p.m.
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Nah, a 1st and a B prospect for Merzlikins. Maybe another late pick if a little more is needed.


Seems reasonable. Merzlikins is waiver exempt and would solve our goaltending for a few years. Assuming of course that he resigns in 2022 for a reasonable caphit, which would be my only trepidation with trading a big package for him.
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Jan. 21, 2021 at 8:17 p.m.
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Quoting: TanSor
Said it before and I'll say it again, I love Bonino as a fit for the Avs. Really rounds out that center core


You are a wild fan, & you are saying this? By far the weirdest cheerleader for Colorado who wild fans hate
Jan. 21, 2021 at 8:20 p.m.
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Wild aren't trading Bonino right now. If wild are out of it @ trade deadline sure, but it won't be to Colorado for Tyson just who wild will have t0 expose. Easy no from Minnesota.

Bonino will easily bring back a high 2nd & prospect or 1st round pick. @Richard88
Jan. 21, 2021 at 8:22 p.m.
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You are a wild fan, & you are saying this? By far the weirdest cheerleader for Colorado who wild fans hate


You can't help yourself from trolling can you? Just because the Wild are my favorite team doesn't mean I can't recognize other team's needs and sympathize with other fan bases. Colorado is absolutely a rival but nearly all of their fans I've had interactions with on this site are extremely pleasant. Unfortunately I can't say the same about you, as hard as I've tried.
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Jan. 21, 2021 at 8:25 p.m.
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You can't help yourself from trolling can you? Just because the Wild are my favorite team doesn't mean I can't recognize other teams and sympathize with other fan bases. Colorado is absolutely a rival but nearly all of their fans I've had interactions with on this site are extremely pleasant. Unfortunately I can't say the same about you, as hard as I've tried.


I am not trolling. You literally the only wild fans who is so inti making Colorado look good which is beyond weird.

Your comment isn't sympathizing. It's simply being cheery toward hated rival Colorado. But hey do you.
Jan. 21, 2021 at 8:29 p.m.
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I am not trolling. You literally the only wild fans who is so inti making Colorado look good which is beyond weird.

Your comment isn't sympathizing. It's simply being cheery toward hated rival Colorado. But hey do you.


Just because their team is a rival doesn't mean I have to be a complete *** hat to their fans. Colorado fans are passionate, just like us Wild fans. Their team has needs and so do we. Because their rivals doesn't mean people can't have a healthy discussion. Apparently living in harmony is asinine to you and for that, I wish you luck.
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Jan. 21, 2021 at 8:30 p.m.
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Wild aren't trading Bonino right now. If wild are out of it @ trade deadline sure, but it won't be to Colorado for Tyson just who wild will have t0 expose. Easy no from Minnesota.

Bonino will easily bring back a high 2nd & prospect or 1st round pick. @Richard88


Yeah this would be a deadline move, or at least closer to the deadline.

Point noted about Jost needing to be exposed.

How about Sampo Ranta + 4th instead?
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Yeah this would be a deadline move, or at least closer to the deadline.

Point noted about Jost needing to be exposed.

How about Sampo Ranta + 4th instead?


No because wild don't need anymore wingers much less a prospect. So no. It would have to be a 2nd round pick & top Prospect or 1st round pick if wild are out of it
Jan. 21, 2021 at 8:51 p.m.
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No because wild don't need anymore wingers much less a prospect. So no. It would have to be a 2nd round pick & top Prospect or 1st round pick if wild are out of it


Umm, do you want a prospect or not?
Jan. 21, 2021 at 9:10 p.m.
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You can't help yourself from trolling can you? Just because the Wild are my favorite team doesn't mean I can't recognize other team's needs and sympathize with other fan bases. Colorado is absolutely a rival but nearly all of their fans I've had interactions with on this site are extremely pleasant. Unfortunately I can't say the same about you, as hard as I've tried.


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Just because their team is a rival doesn't mean I have to be a complete *** hat to their fans. Colorado fans are passionate, just like us Wild fans. Their team has needs and so do we. Because their rivals doesn't mean people can't have a healthy discussion. Apparently living in harmony is asinine to you and for that, I wish you luck.


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Yeah this would be a deadline move, or at least closer to the deadline.

Point noted about Jost needing to be exposed.

How about Sampo Ranta + 4th instead?


This is ridiculous. I cannot believe this **** thinks or continues to think that is acceptable behavior.

I'm going to share a little story.

From October of 2013 until January of 2018 I worked at what was formerly the Embassy Suits Hotel in downtown St. Paul, Minnesota, which was maybe 5 blocks away from the Xcel Energy center. Specifically I oversaw, restocked, and bussed tables during the complementary breakfast in the hotel's open air atrium and cafeteria. Given our proximity to the X, we routinely hosted fans going to the games from out of state or staying in the city on a extended basis from more rural areas across Minnesota. This is also true of other sports and their respective franchise fanbases as well.

I can tell you right now, my greatest memories and moments while working in the hospitality industry was and always will be, my conversations with other teams fans.

It's how I know Winnipeg Jets fans are as nuts and knowledgeable about hockey as we Wild fans are.

It's how I know for a fact, that Aves fans are probably the 4th most knowledgeable fanbase in the continental United States.

And all of them, are genuinely some of the nicest people you can ever meet. Most of them just want to have a great conversation about their favorite sport, although teasing and trashtalking are part of the overall tradition. wink

This goes for all fans.

You can hate the franchise, you can even hate specific players on any given team.

But never hate the other teams fanbases. That's just wrong.

@Wildnochance I sincerely hope you have a wonderful 12th birthday, maybe then you'll start to grow up.
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Jan. 21, 2021 at 9:19 p.m.
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This is ridiculous. I cannot believe this **** thinks or continues to think that is acceptable behavior.

I'm going to share a little story.

From October of 2013 until January of 2018 I worked at what was formerly the Embassy Suits Hotel in downtown St. Paul, Minnesota, which was maybe 5 blocks away from the Xcel Energy center. Specifically I oversaw, restocked, and bussed tables during the complementary breakfast in the hotel's open air atrium and cafeteria. Given our proximity to the X, we routinely hosted fans going to the games from out of state or staying in the city on a extended basis from more rural areas across Minnesota. This is also true of other sports and their respective franchise fanbases as well.

I can tell you right now, my greatest memories and moments while working in the hospitality industry was and always will be, my conversations with other teams fans.

It's how I know Winnipeg Jets fans are as nuts and knowledgeable about hockey as we Wild fans are.

It's how I know for a fact, that Aves fans are probably the 4th most knowledgeable fanbase in the continental United States.

And all of them, are genuinely some of the nicest people you can ever meet. Most of them just want to have a great conversation about their favorite sport, although teasing and trashtalking are part of the overall tradition. wink

This goes for all fans.

You can hate the franchise, you can even hate specific players on any given team.

But never hate the other teams fanbases. That's just wrong.

@Wildnochance I sincerely hope you have a wonderful 12th birthday, maybe then you'll start to grow up.


Maybe you can grow u9 as well instead of attacking & yelling & posting @ ne. I don't give a crap about your ramblings and name calling
Jan. 21, 2021 at 9:20 p.m.
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Umm, do you want a prospect or not?


Wild don't need wingers. Like it super easy
Jan. 21, 2021 at 9:25 p.m.
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Wild don't need wingers. Like it super easy


What do you need? C and RD? Or what?
Jan. 21, 2021 at 9:26 p.m.
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Maybe you can grow u9 as well instead of attacking & yelling & posting @ ne. I don't give a crap about your ramblings and name calling


Can you please stop posting in this thread. I don't care who's right, this thread is for hockey talk not for arguing. Thanks
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Jan. 21, 2021 at 9:47 p.m.
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Can you please stop posting in this thread. I don't care who's right, this thread is for hockey talk not for arguing. Thanks


Apologies, and as I've already said my piece. I'm good.

Now, onto our regularly scheduled hockey talk.

Ranta has looked good, but I'm not convinced we would be interested. Given our lack of center depth, and that Bonino would be perfect for the Aves. Especially with retention, I think we'd ask for Jost, plus a pick.

Given the pieces involved it looks like we're in a catch 22 situation. It's a broken record at this point.
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Jan. 21, 2021 at 9:54 p.m.
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Apologies, and as I've already said my piece. I'm good.

Now, onto our regularly scheduled hockey talk.

Ranta has looked good, but I'm not convinced we would be interested. Given our lack of center depth, and that Bonino would be perfect for the Aves. Especially with retention, I think we'd ask for Jost, plus a pick.

Given the pieces involved it looks like we're in a catch 22 situation. It's a broken record at this point.


No worries brother, just wanted to steer things back on track smile

Jost + 5th for a 7th + Bonino? Not sure adding to Jost is smart here from an Avs perspective.
Jan. 21, 2021 at 10:20 p.m.
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No worries brother, just wanted to steer things back on track smile

Jost + 5th for a 7th + Bonino? Not sure adding to Jost is smart here from an Avs perspective.


It's all good. 👍

It probably isn't, but the issue is your asking us to retain when we're already pretty close to the cap. Especially after the Cole trade. We currently have $137,638 in available cap space after the fact and are already retaining on Dubnyk's $2.16M.

You're asking us to retain a full 50% on Bonino's contract on top of that. Jost certainly helps, given our positional needs, but the value back is less then to be desired. I think a 3rd or at minimum a 4th is more than reasonable given the retention.

As for a pick back on our end, I don't have an issue with it. But our 21' 7th is currently unavailable, given it's conditional status in the Bjugstad trade with Pittsburgh. So unless your happy with a 22 pick maybe bump that up to a 6th.
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